Sanders announces $1.5 trillion universal child care plan

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  1. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's correct. The qualified Special Needs "educators" aren't cheap. This is for my Parish.

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    Is the $1.5T before or after he raises the min wage to $15/hr. That would basically double the cost of daycare so the number he would need is more like $3 trillion. That's roughly 10% of our current revenue.
     
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    Forgot about that... Child tax credits AND free daycare on the taxpayer dime?

    Man, it's really gotta suck to be a democrat and have to defend the lazy dregs of society all the time.
     
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    How many of those people are working 10 hours a day? He is calling for 10 hours (min) avaiable for these kids.. Also mentions Parents with odd schedules so you are talking over nights as well...
     
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    52% tax obligation?

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    That pricing on the "Green New Deal" is:
    a) based on a right wing think tank;
    b) the top end range for all of the costs combined
    c) devoid of any benefits associated with the Green New Deal
    d) created despite a lack of details on what is entailed by any Green New Deal legislation
    e) all of the above
     
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    You probably live in a high cost of living state. I'd also rather pay $15K a year than put my son in a free public daycare. That's how you end up with teachers that get triggered and flip on the innocent kids there. The subsidized daycares here usually have a story like that. Subsidized and free daycare is a risk I'd never take. I'd have my wife stay home and quit her job before I'd put my child in a daycare like that. If Bernie somehow found a way to win, and then somehow found a way to drain even more taxes from us (because taxing the 0.1% is just a ploy to appeal to us peons) to open free daycares, we would find out just how dangerous a plan like this is.
     
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    It is definitely not and I commend you on your ability to support women in this realm.

    But the fact remains that Bernie's proposal could actually result in a net revenue stream for America by freeing those parents to obtain jobs and thereby contribute more to society than just sitting at home with their young child.
     
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    That saying is such ****. We give up liberty every day for safety reasons and those decisions are often very, very rational and beneficial to society.
     
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    You are comfortable with allowing women to get abortions if they can't afford kids, right?
     
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    The math here is....suspect.

    But the $1.5 Trillion dollar cost is the cost for this plan alone.
     
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    Isn't that what the child tax credit is for? I would hope that Bernie's plan would also remove the CTC if they give free child care. And don't most, if not all, states have child care assistance for low income families? I know that I got it when I was poor. I'm sure that the states would quickly remove that benefit. How long before someone got upset with those losses?
     
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    No we didn't. Kids used to die from common illnesses we get all the time like the flu, chicken pox, etc.. Kids used to die from illnesses that vaccines stop now. My grandfather lost a 4 year old brother to Diphtheria in 1928 because we didn't have medicine or vaccines to fight such illnesses.
     
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    Great. now schrewool starts at 6 months old. no thanks. I have no problem helping single parents who need it, but this proposal is unreasonable and will never pass. It's just more BS promises from the free stuff democrats.
     
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    Sure but not things as important as religious liberty. We have all given up some of our sovereignty to govt. but somethings, ie what’s in the bill of rights, we draw a line.

    if you want to be safe, go to prison...or vote in sanders so he can create his Venezuelan/Cuban society. He won’t win
     
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    Bernie is an international embarrassment with his free-stuff BS campaign.
     
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    someone explain this.

    Bernie Sanders’s $97 trillion agenda would impose incomprehensible costs.
    Sanders concedes that his Medicare For All plan would increase federal spending by “somewhere between $30 and $40 trillion over a 10-year period.”
    He pledges to spend $16.3 trillion on his climate plan.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/28/ber...e-on-crucial-issue-in-democratic-primary.html
    And his proposal to guarantee all Americans a full-time government job paying $15 an hour, with full benefits, is estimated to cost $30.1 trillion.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nveil-plan-to-guarantee-every-american-a-job/

    https://www.city-journal.org/bernie-sanders-expensive-spending-proposals
     
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    Zat's all? Just a lowly trillion and a half? peanuts! :applause:

    The cost of Sanders' agenda -- possibly $60 trillion -- would set a peacetime US record

    (CNN)While the new spending programs Sen. Bernie Sanders has proposed in his presidential campaign would at least double federal spending over the next decade, he has provided little detail about how he would implement or finance such a massive increase.

    http://www.cnn.com/2020/01/14/politics/bernie-sanders-proposals-cost/index.html
     
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    Besides Westboro and muslims, what religious liberty would threaten your child's safety and health?
     
  20. Thirty6BelowZero

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    None. They work 8 hours a day and miss roughly 5 months when you include Summer break and all the holiday breaks. So imagine how much they would have to be paid working 10 hours, 12 months per year, AND nights/weekends sometimes.

    Bernie doesn't think ahead, nor do any of his supporters.
     
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    only 1.5 Trillion? Heck, that's cheap compared to his other ideas...
     
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    I'm sorry but the value of a parent present in a child's life is priceless!
     
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    The proposed plan is a tax on individuals making more than $7,300,000.00 per year. It jumps to a little over $12,000,000 on married couples.
     
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    If you want someone else to raise your kid, why bother having a kid in the first place? Doesn't make any sense to me. Glad that one of my parents stayed home and raised me. Glad that my spouse stayed home and raised my daughter. Sad that others prefer someone else, who doesn't love their kids, to raise their kids.
     

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