Sanders announces $1.5 trillion universal child care plan

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  1. struth

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    It's all a way to attempt and buy votes....raising the min wage to 15 would kill many lower income jobs, and then the tax hike on those few that do get it, would be eaten up.

    The policies are nothign but job killers, and dependence creations
     
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    It takes a village was a horrific ideal from that hag HRC and it’s still a horrific ideal.

    Bernie is already crossing lines that will kill him in the general election. He will continue to do so.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you eat a healthy diet and stay active, you will still have to pay for those eating themselves sick and sitting on the couch. If you are the sick one, others have to pay for you, but being sick can hardly be considered a net benefit.
     
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    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    How is raising children in a loving home not the greatest contribution to society that parents can make? My wife and I chose to work split shifts so that we wouldn't have to wharehouse our children in daycare. Neither one of us were just sitting at home with our young children, even when we were caring for them. We were actively participating in making our children healthy, engaged, responsible, informed, intelligent and moral human beings. We were never just sitting at home with our children.

    And the children have turned into really decent, responsible, productive and interesting people. They are much better off for society then they would have been if we cared so little that we could offload the heavy lifting of parenting onto daycare workers and preschools.
     
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    Raising a child in a loving home does not have to be synonymous with staying at home with said child during the working hours and indeed there is a massive segment of the population for which that type of arrangement would result in a decreased lifestyle for the child because they would be raised in an impoverished home.

    This is not a program that would force anyone to enroll in a specific type of day care and it is not a program which would force anyone to refrain from staying at home with their child if that is their choice.

    What this program does do is open up opportunities for those families would like to place their child into an otherwise un-affordable day care or education program for that child. That seems like a net benefit to society.
     
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    It’s not the govt responsibility and it’s not a judicious use of money. Its just Bernie socialist imagination combined with his imaginary unlimited federal checkbook funded by “rich people taxes”

    But i hope he peddles it hard to the American public. This with the NGD will be two huge nails in his election coffin.
     
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    It is shocking that we have 30% of the Democratic Party actually admitting they are Marxists with their votes for this half wit.
     
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    From your OP:

    ...guarantee every child in America free full-day, full-week, high-quality child care from infancy through age three, regardless of income" and also guarantee "every child access to a full-day, full-week pre-kindergarten education regardless of income, starting at age 3...

    This program will definitely force people into it - how many people do you know that refuse freebie?
    Another socialist welfare nanny-state Utopian dream that only costs $1.5 trillion. Run Bernie, run :applause:
     
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    If Bernie and the dems get their wish of turning the US into a Venezuelan style socialist state, is a guarantee the kid grows up impoverished and with a decreased lifestyle
     
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    I already cared for young people, my three kids. I am done with paying for child care and do not like the idea of paying for someone's kid. But my wife and I were lucky we craked the way kids come into being and decided to wait until we had the mean to care for our children. I know that sound crazy to all those give me free stuff just because, but with good decision making things usually work fairly well.
     
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    And before Sanders citing my province program as a model, keep in mind that my income deductions are now at 43%... Soon I'll pay more than what I bring home...
     
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    So these folks want to “allow” the govt to care for their kiddos, but they don’t think the govt will then have more control over how said kiddos are raised?

    Genius..
     
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    They're just here to tell the masses what they think they want to hear and never deliver. How much did obama deliver? Things were worse under him.
     
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    He delivered on his more flexible with Putin promise. Unfortuately the people of Ukraine and. Syria suffered greatly
     
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    No... government is already too big..
     
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    Like they do with social security, roads, police and fire departments? Oh wait? Everyone has to contribute...

    Thanks for your thoughts though!
     
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    How about we make sure everyone knows the baby making process. This truly is not rocket science.
     
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    Impoverished in the financial sense? Is that worse than being emotionally impoverished?
     
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    Easy fix just make them work longer hours. Socialist love making people do things they don't want to.
     
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    That is the problem, you're not going to be able to find them fast enough. Thus, the standards will have to be lowered. Its been seen time and time again with the government. Especially the military during conflicts.
     
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    You do it with your money
     
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    Hahahaha! Today he was being interviewed by one of the leftist media outlets and was saying stuff like this program of mine will cost about thirty trillion here and that one will cost about thirty trillion there; and the leftist media shill just stopped and stared at clueless Bernie in shock. You can't buy entertainment value like that. Thirty trillion here and thirty trillion there and pretty soon you are talking real money . . . even in regards to a clueless Marxist.
     
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    We wouldnt need this except for America being disemboweled by our elites and both parties allowing it.

    The managed decline of America is the rich making money on our decline for relative short termed profits.
     
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    Fallen on his face already and he is not even facing 1/10th of the questions he will if he gets nominated.

    I can see the DNC using this kind of failure to deny him the nomination. And honestly, I can't blame them. "I want to do stuff but do not know how much it will cost other than it will be in the trillions or how I will pay for it" is not a wining ticket...

    Bernie you are not looking electable right now!
     
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