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Sanders announces $1.5 trillion universal child care plan

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  1. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seriously? Where does it end?
     
    Labouroflove, Feb 24, 2020
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    icehole3 Well-Known Member

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    Bernies model is, if we can somehow get rid of all money. Sort of like Star Trek.
     
    icehole3, Feb 24, 2020
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    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anybody making that much money, who would voluntarily vote for Bernie and his plans, should be able to afford meeting up and providing that much money for such things without Bernie forcing it from them. That's if they really care about such things.
     
    Thirty6BelowZero, Feb 24, 2020
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    If Trump couldn't reach levels of economic growth to pay for itself, what makes you think that Bernie can make a net positive revenue stream???
     
    wgabrie, Feb 24, 2020
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  5. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    To those who say a couple has to decide not to have children until they can afford it, I say to you don't you know we have a shortage of population in this country?
     
    wgabrie, Feb 24, 2020
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  6. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    Remember this when @MTLegal is ever taking shots at the President for proposing plans that will elimate the deficit
     
    struth, Feb 24, 2020
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    Its never about the proposal with a potential nominee, its about the direction of the conversation the proposal starts. A conversation on child care is desperately needed, but it needs to happen in a Democratically controlled House and Senate, and with a Democrat in the White House. The real question is what does Sanders at the top of the ticket to our chances at that happening, as opposed to if a Warren, a Buttigieg, and Klobuchar or a Biden are at the top of the ticket. I am worried that Bernie will end up doing more harm for his own idea, if he is leading this charge in 2020. Good guy with good ideas,, but maybe wrong place for him to be in November to fight for it.
     
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    He's a little late. If they want to do it, give it to Trump and Ivanka, they started it.

    Here Trump started free or affordable child care for single low income mothers. This was because of the urging of Trump's Daughter Ivanka. https://freefinancialhelp.net/free-childcare-assistance/

    Trump signs Autism bill

    Trump signs autism legislation into law providing $1.8B in research funding. There is no medical test available to diagnose autism. Autism is diagnosed by observing the development of a child, according to the CDC. Characteristics of autism were studied as symptoms of schizophrenia in the early 1900's. Rep. Smith says the bill will fund research, early detection and treatment for autism spectrum disorder. Oct 2 2019

    Reference: ://www.wtsp.com/.../trump-signs.../507-70e3e773-3fe4-4d7…


    Advocates for More Child Care Spending Push “Crisis” Report ...
    Earlylearningnation.com/2019/05/advocates-for...
    May 30, 2019 · Harper says it will take a sustained push to maintain and increase child care funding. But there are indications that child care funding is getting more attention. The White House, led by Ivanka Trump, President Donald Trump’s daughter, is proposing increased spending and address shortages.





    President Trump and Ivanka push paid leave at White House ...
    www.cbsnews.com/news/president-trump-ivanka-push...
    Dec 12, 2019 · President Trump touted the importance paid family leave on Thursday, a cause pushed by his daughter and senior adviser Ivanka Trump. A number of lawmakers are at the White House for a summit ..





    1. Ivanka Trump and Google commit to White House job training ...
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      Oct 03, 2019 · Ivanka Trump, President Donald Trump’s daughter, oversees the administration’s worker training efforts. Google is also expanding a program it developed to prepare people for entry-level jobs in...

    2. Ivanka Trump visits Georgia in workforce development push
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      DULUTH, Ga. (AP) — President Trump’s oldest daughter and adviser Ivanka Trump toured a plant in Georgia Wednesday in a workforce development push. Trump’s visit to a UPS driving training plant outside Atlanta with Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp was part of an effort to show the administration’s ...

    3. Donald Trump to Tout Training, Apprenticeships in 'Workforce ...
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      Jun 12, 2017 · President Donald Trump and his daughter and adviser Ivanka will travel to Wisconsin on Tuesday as part of the White House's "workforce development week." ... Push to bring skills training to the
     
    Marine1, Feb 24, 2020
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  9. struth

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    Sanders plan would call for massive tax hikes at all levels of income...including on small business owners, and he would kill private healthcare insurance..https://www.atr.org/list-tax-hikes-sanders-medicare-all-plan?amp..this is only for his medicare for all program....adding this other trillion dollar project, and his Green New Deal....who knows where the taxes would ever end
     
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    Tax cuts do not add to the deficit. Only spending can do that. It is neither a freebie nor an investment. It will have to be paid for and like everything else the government takes over, any potential benefits will be absorbed by bureaucracy. Talk about literally making this a nanny state!
     
    Doofenshmirtz, Feb 24, 2020
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But of course he's in the wrong place

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    Dutch, Feb 24, 2020
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  12. struth

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    Yep....and Sanders and the Dems all voted against Trump and the GOP's tax reform, doubling the tax credit for childcare....in addition say his budget calling for over a billion more in childcare funding...DOA.


    The ;Dems really aren't for helping with childcare.
     
    struth, Feb 24, 2020
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    If everything is 'free', why do people need a minimum wage of $15?

    How sad that people actually think this is a good idea.
     
    Collateral Damage, Feb 24, 2020
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    It doesn't take a village to raise a child. It takes two parents who put their children first. Those who have the "It takes a village.." mentality are generally the same people who shouldn't be having kids in the first place. If you need to wharehouse your children, then why did you choose to be parents in the first place? And didn't we, as a country decide that government controlled and funded universal childcare was a tad bit of a horrific situation when it was en-vogue in the Soviet Union? Or is the indoctrination of toddlers something that some segments of society think is a good thing?

    And who is going to administer this universal daycare? The same people who brought you that monumental fiasco of Obamacare? You know, that same program that was supposed to save every American Family $2,500 dollars a year and it ended up costing the average American family an extra $3,500 a year? The same government who couldn't even manage to get their website, healthcare.gov to work? The same people who so efficiently run the DMV? These individuals?
     
    Lee S, Feb 24, 2020
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, Americans and Illegal Aliens both :)
     
    Dutch, Feb 24, 2020
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions of which big-hearted, enlightened Democrats are masters of.
     
    Dutch, Feb 24, 2020
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    Yes, I'm pro-Choice/Abortion.
     
    Talon, Feb 24, 2020
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  18. MrTLegal

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    That medicare for all tax plan would be a net benefit to my middle class income of approximately 10,000$ a year.
     
    MrTLegal, Feb 24, 2020
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    I have every reason to expect the costs of the Green New Deal to be even greater than anticipated, so I'm comfortable with that estimate. Nevertheless, the point remains that Sanders wants to spend more money than the American people and economy can afford.

    Finally, once again, no thanks to granting power-hungry, money-grubbing Leftists more control over everyone's lives
     
    Talon, Feb 24, 2020
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    Keep rolling out the stupidity Bernie.

    He is just setting up Trump to destroy him in ads and in debates.
     
    Rugglestx, Feb 24, 2020
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  21. MrTLegal

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    Trump is not proposing any plans to eliminate the deficit. Even his current proposed budget continues to add to the budget until the economy somehow starts to grow at a faster rate than he has ever accomplished.
     
    MrTLegal, Feb 24, 2020
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    You've lost your mind. Raising the children at home is the goal!
     
    Labouroflove, Feb 24, 2020
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    Not keeping more of your income is not a benefit
     
    struth, Feb 24, 2020
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    Nope, it balances it in 15 years. Heck you posted that link
     
    struth, Feb 24, 2020
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    But Cuba's not all bad!
     
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