Secular Democrats urge Biden to pounce on U.S. Christianity

Sort of like the bakeries that refuse to make gay wedding cakes, I've never heard of a bank that separates gay money from straight. The gist I get from the good book is if you're not personally committing the "sin" you're pretty much good to go.

 

Of course it was. It was put forth that a return to a more secular government was an attack on Christianity. Not an attack on all religions, just Christianity.

If I had kids in school I certainly would not want anyone there teaching them about religion. Parents, their faith leaders and fellow church members should be entrusted with such a task not Jill Stafford who believes trees have souls and Satan is just misunderstood.

 

I like the "pounce" imaging. Biblical. Here's a cool serval.

 

Creationism does not belong in science period !!!

 

agree, I would no more support "in no God we trust" in our pledge then "in God we trust" - government should not be pushing either

 

The Constitution refers to the year that the Convention created the document as "the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven." Some have argued that the use of the term "Lord" in this way is indicative of something, but it is indicative of nothing more than a standard way of referring to years in that time period.

A law passed by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by the President on July 30, 1956, the President approved a Joint Resolution of the 84th Congress, declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States.

 

this is what you get when religion is injected into government

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/loving.html

"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And, but for the interference with his arrangement, there would be no cause for such marriage. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."
-Judge Leon M. Bazile (January 6, 1959)

this was 3 years after "IN GOD WE TRUST" was made the national motto of the United States

 

That would be an activist judge of whom conservatives would reject. If you take God completely out of government and make the government your god you end up with communism.

 

Correct - sans a History Channel segment on how Science has proven certain elements of the literalist perspective false ... but - also - how science has shown that there is some truth in to the Myth.

 

how science has shown that there is some truth in to the Myth
What evidence is there of God ???

 

no, that would be one the religious right would most definitely support

nope, you take god out of government and you get religious freedom for all

 

Sure like the religious freedom we find in atheist countries such as China and the former Soviet Union and Cuba. I saw that quote and knew this guy was a Dem before looking him up and yes elected to office as a Democrat. Judges should not be legislating from the bench as this Dem judge clearly was. Totally contrary to conservative principles.

 

we are not talking about other countries like Christians in Germany under Hitler... we are talking about the USA, a secular nation

the only way religious freedom works is if the gov stays out of it, for both believers and non-believers

 

I think a lot of the times they associate Christianity with conservativeism. I don't agree.

I think the reason for this association is tied deeply to the left wing vision for the culture. It seems like they are after the removal of taboos. I don't know if this isn't motivation and of itself or if it's a way to demoralize Christians further.

Something interesting about Christianity is that it adapts. So in the 80s and 90s it was all about gay people, over the years Christian Church is adapted and now they don't take two interfere with gay people in fact some of them even embraced gay pastors.

Have you noticed that when they're talking about Christians they always argue against a caricature of Christianity and not the person that they're talking to? The automatically assume every Christian is Fred Phelps of the Westborough Baptist Church. And they argue as if they're talking to Fred Phelps.

It's because they want Christianity to be rigid and unforgiving, and it's not. The core of Christianity is that it's universal. Everyone is welcome everyone is a sinner. We are all equal in the eyes of God.

Sure there are religious groups don't practice this but for every one of them there's probably 50 that do.

After the gays were accepted it was Muslims. They're trying to be real buddy buddy with a Muslims but they're running into an issue with the Muslims. Islam is more like Christianity than it is like secularism. And as people move into the United States who practice Islam the more Christians and Muslims get along with one another.

For a real short period it was transgender people. I think 99% of people feel compassion for transgender folks. Most of us are not freaked out by calling them by their female or male name whatever the case may be. It just wasn't that big a deal. So they've moved for the children. And this is where it's going to be probably for a long time and I hope Christianity doesn't grow here because I think this is a bridge too far.

The next group and we've already started to hear murmurs, it's pedophiles and people who want to transition their kids.

Like I said I don't know if this is an effort to gut the church or an effort just to remove taboos.

 

the left doesn't like the religious right that wants to make the country a theocracy, the left has no problem with normal Christians


"The Palin Principle – Bible trumps Constitution"

"Sarah Palin: American Law Should Be ‘Based On The God Of The Bible And The Ten Commandments’"

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/10/sarah-palin-american-law_n_569922.html

"Huckabee: Amend Constitution to Reflect God's Standards "

 

So the left doesn't like approximately 2500 people in the country that nobody else likes.

Lol.

 

Yes there should be no state advocacy of religion nor government meddling in the churches or faith of its people. Our founding fathers had no problem with God in our government as our Declaration of Independence attests to as well as there stopping to pray at our Constitutional Convention. The mixing of atheism with government has been a bloody failure when attempted.

 

you don't like Palin or Huckabee?

 

when has the government ever pushed atheism? it pushes the Muslims God though, put it on our money even, do you support that?

 

A nice caricature they can beat against as we also see in tv shows on a regular basis.

 

They don't want to turn the country into a theocracy.

What do you think turning the country into a theocracy means?

 

nice to see so many on the right agree with me about the religious right on this thread there is hope for us yet

 

It is a good reminder that our government is not supreme. It advocates no particular religion.

 

sure sounds like it to me, do you really want blasphemy laws in this country?

"Sarah Palin: American Law Should Be ‘Based On The God Of The Bible And The Ten Commandments’"

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/10/sarah-palin-american-law_n_569922.html

 

99.63% of the religious right do not want a theocracy.