Should Donald Trump go to prison for what he did on the 6th of January 2021?

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Should Donald Trump go to prison for what he did on the 6th of January 2021?

  1. yes, he should

    24 vote(s)
    39.3%
  2. no, he should not

    31 vote(s)
    50.8%
  3. I don't know

    3 vote(s)
    4.9%
  4. other

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    4.9%
  1. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    No, there's not. I'm pointing out something that's well-known and in the public domain. You can look it up, or play this stupid "prove it" game. I'm not playing.
     
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    This was almost Venezuela, but in the United States, a blowhard demagogue still can't fraudulently insist that he won a democratic election he lost, deploy his goons, and get away with it.

    There is a special congressional investigative committee that is currently making significant progress in exposing the role that the Cry Baby Loser played in the Trump goons' attack on the U.S. Congress, despite a concerted attempt to hide the truth by those who were intimately involved.

    After initial ludicrous attempts to claim that the assault in which 140 police were injured was just a typical touristy day at the Capitol, and the pathetic pretense that it was "antifa" that was responsible for the attack on our democratic process fizzled, it has been exposed that even the ideological media entertainers that flail their pompoms for the Loser and later tried to dismiss the seriousness of the national desecration were frantic at the time - as were members of the Loser's own family and members of congress - that the Loser stop pleasuring himself be watching it on tv for hours, and call off his goons:

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    As the truth emerges, the furtive refusals to cooperate and the desperate attempts to evade responsibility will persist, of course, but culpability will be inescapable. The truth will out.

    Trump goons who were identified, prosecuted, convicted or confessed have been testifying that their crimes were perpetrated for the Loser they weirdly worship.
     
  3. AARguy

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    Attempted overthrow of the government? LOLOL... One building... one... is occupied by a DISORGANIZED... UNARMED crew that hurt no one (only death was a veteran shot by a cop)... that's about as much of an "overthrow of or government" as a bunch of kids playing marbles is the Olympics.
     
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  4. Lindis

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    You would defend any crime done by Trump
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    And you would find Trump guilty of kidnapping the Lindbergh baby.
     
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    No I would not. I spent most of my adult life defending America. Its traditions, its laws, its people... But I will defend a Democrat unjustly accused of crime as much as a Republican. You just don't seem to understand the years of wasted time and effort (and my tax dollars) spent on the debunked "Russian Collusion" sillinesss has set the stage for you you take one building and and mob of UNARMED, DISORGANIZED protesters and turn it into a coup which would take dozens of targets attacked simultaneously, coast to coast by ARMED, DISCIPLINED FORCES ... THOUSANDS of participants coordinated carefully... to accomplish. Next time your child is involved in an altercation in the third grade and gets charged with murder "2"... you'll know how it feels.

    By the way, it was GEN Noran Schwartzkopf's dad that handled that case in NJ. He was a big supporter of the military... and didn't even accuse Trump. A good Republican.
     
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  7. AARguy

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    No... but if he spit on the sidewalk I wouldn't accuse him of rioting like you would.
     
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  8. Dayton3

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    You quoted the wrong person.

    I've supported Trump even though I loathe him.
     
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    Oops... sorry... I lve the guy... but hes a little too long in the tooth for me. After all the damage Biden has done and continues to do, almost any Repub can win... but we have to be careful
     
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    I would hate Trump for his history with women and his fowl language alone.
     
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    That is a given
     
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    Oh! Dear! Have we been reading Facebook misinformation again?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials
     
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    ...
     
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    I don't care if he has affairs with aardvarks and has 32 mistresses. He's kept my family safe and prosperous. I'm an OLD SOLDIER.His language is tame.

    I like results. Words are meaningless... let's review:

    Trump lowered my taxes (I was able to buy a jacuzzi!)
    Biden left Americans and allies abandoned in Afghanistan
    Trump actually got SIGNED peace accords in the Middle East.
    Biden makes COVID restriction mandatory for Americans but not for illegal immigrants.
    Trump gave the military its first real pay raise in years.
    Biden seeks to restrict the second Amendment.
    Trump clobbered ISIS (captured their largest city – Mosul and their capital city - Raqqa.
    Biden armed the terrorist Taliban.
    Trump allowed terminal patients to use drugs not fully tested that might offer hope.

    Biden has allowed the opioid disaster to grow and grow by opening the borders.
    Biden killed pipeline jobs and US energy independence.
    Trump got us back in space on US-made rockets.
    Biden got 13 US Soldiers killed at the Kabul airport.
    Trump made us energy-independent.
    Biden opened our border... WIDE OPEN
    Trump supported the 2d amendment
    Biden indoctrinates our kids with racist "Critical Race theory"

    Biden has done nothing to support the police as our cities experience tremendous growth in murder and violence.

    Biden is causing outrageous inflation.

    There was no “supply chain” disaster under Trump as there is under Biden.

    Gas was about a buck and a half cheaper under Trump.

    People weren’t being banned from social media for speaking their minds under Trump.

    Parents counted under Trump. Under Biden (and you, by the way)… they don’t.

    gees... the list is endless

    So when all is said and done... I couldn't care less who (or even WHAT he makes love to) or what he SAYS... He ACTS and my whole family is better for it.
     
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    I don't think so narrowly and base my vote solely on whether or not my family benefits.
     
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    Well, if everyone spent more time looking out for their own, they wouldnt be sticking their hands in everyone else's pockets. I for one am very proud of the fact that got a good education, had a successful career, raised a family, have a nice home and EARNED IT ALL MYSELF. If everyone did that we wouldn't have sall the welfare bums and illegals who get $450K for entering the country illegally.

    I'm all for helping folks that are really in need... physically, mentally or emotionally... but the freeriders have got to go.
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    You did:p
     
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    Now:

    14 x yes
    16 x no

    So the Trump-fans have the majority here?

    :(
     
  20. Lindis

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    Where and when? :)
     
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    Maybe. Who can tell nowadays?:p:confused::rolleyes:
    He needs to be convicted of the crime so he can never run again.

    I don't think he was SERIOUSLY planning it out in advance. I think his particular pathology, his narcissism, made him pressure the people around him to try something like this and I think he himself became caught up in it as things developed.

    I can't see him as criminally liable here, not to the extent of deserving jail time. He's an old man, there's no reason to rob him of his final years.

    OTOH he IS liable for the crime itself to the extent that he DID commit it. He saw what was happening and he went along to see how far it might go.

    That means he must NEVER serve in any Office in the USA ever again. Period. End of Story. He has shot his bolt and turned against the people and Institutions he swore to protect. He simply CANNOT be trusted any more
     
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    Just now (I'm being facetious)
     
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    Sure you did. You paid for the entirety of your own primary education before you ever got there, right?

    And on your way up there wasn't anyone who mentored you? Any more successful individual who helped you out?

    Sure, you worked hard and good for you but nobody makes it entirely on their own. Successful people are at the center of webs of other successful people, or they are not usually that successful
     
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    i would like to know why Trump changed his mind and did not march with them, did he learn something like this was gonna happen?
     
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    "The weird worshipers of one Loser can certainly contrive
    some compelling pretexts for their mindless veneration!...


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    ... Having warm water shootin' up your butt sure beats
    making Mexico pay for your 'big, beautiful wall!',
    replacing 'ObamaCare' with 'something terrific'
    and resurrecting coal mining!

     
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