Tesla reveals Semi-Truck and new Sports Car

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Cigar, Nov 17, 2017.

  1. TrackerSam

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    And those batteries will only last about 5yrs.
     
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    Here is what I drove through high school until I was twenty Just imagine it all primer coated "Brown" with chrome wheel fat back skinny front with a 351 and tranny out of a cougar.. Crazy, the guy I bought it from never changed the selector so you had to bend down to put it in gear and he bypassed the safety and it would start in gear :) In fact my lil brother was goofing around one day and started while it was drive and drove thru the old mans garage door :)

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    Aren't PROGRESSIVES the same people that keep pushing ChooChoo trains that always need government subsidy to continue operating not to mention the constant derailment of cars hauling oil? Screw the PROGRESSIVES that live in the 1850's.
     
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    38mpg around town for a Ford Focus - you're making that up
     
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    1970 Buick Grand Sport with GSX Stage 1 package? That's a mighty rare and pricy ride for a Progressive.....
     
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    If it takes 5 hours to charge a small car or even if you use a super charger 1 hour then how long will it take to charge that entire trucks batteries? This EV bullshit has just jumped the shark.
     
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    Kudo's to Tesla. It's a start in the right direction.
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Japanese have had Fast Trains for about as ling as I've been alive ... this Country SUCKS at Infrastructure and for only one reason ... The Republicans

    If it was up to the Republicans, we'd never had gotten to the Moon ... oh wait ... that was Fake News
     
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    I wish I had the Room for more stuff
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They've come a long way in a relatively short amount of time
     
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    If it takes a long time to charge the battery businesses with Teslas won't be competitive against companies who can just fill up their diesel and go.

    You're always in a rush in this industry.
     
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    Nah, that's all I get :( And I baby the hell out of too! They are weird, when you first fill them they are like 50mpg and as the tank empties the mpg start to drop and right about the time I fill it again it's all I get 38mph or a little less depending on if it's cold and I start it and idle it..

    Was worse until they had to change all the clutches "Recall", before that I'd be lucky to get 28-30, damn clutch's were slipping like hell! After they replaced them MPG went up substantially!
     
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    I a couple years ... they will change ... but we'll still be paying stupid amounts for gas
     
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    I always buy the Good Stuff over the Cheep Stuff
     
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    Yes because it was the Republican state of California that managed to **** up their train right? We had a "high speed" rail proposal here in my state of Wisconsin. What they didn't tell you was that in order to keep the costs down from a ridiculous billions of dollars to only a few hundred million was to use existing tracks instead of building tracks that could handle a high speed train. Of course they conveniently forgot to mention this pretty critical part until a the news broke it. The so called high speed train would have been limited to the same speed freight trains use and since it would be using the same tracks it would have to schedule around their times. We almost blew hundreds of millions of dollars on that debacle thankfully a REPUBLICAN shot it down and the DEMOCRAT state of Illinois decided to grab it instead. HAHAHAHA! Now they are flat broke and have no way of paying for their train but are still liable for the contracts they signed.

    In case you missed it the first sentence was sarcasm as there are only 8 Republicans in the state of California and no one is stopping CA from building their train yet it is now considered even by its supporters to be a complete boondoggle.
     
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    It's going to be a different Color next year ... with an upgraded suspension and harden drive shaft and rearend gears ...

    That way can abuse it with out breaking it.
     
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    It takes 5 hours outside your home because of the limited charging rate allowed. In a station having dedicated charging points, the charge takes 20 minutes or so for a standard battery. Batteries are charged in parallel I believe hence charging one heavy duty truck battery will be the same time as charging the entire truck batteries and will take longer but not necessarily much longer.
     
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    Funny,

    I was on my way to Jackson and the road was total crap, like ever forth mile there was a groove that would jar the suspension like Bam-BAM all the dame way 100+ miles, drove me nuts! I was just out of town and the usual Bam_BAM and something new, a weird scraping noise so I got out to check it and the damn battery box bottom rusted away and I was dragging the battery under the passenger side LOL. Luckily I never turned it off and just cut the cable drove back to town and redid it to mount under the hood :)

    No partying that weekend :(
     
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    After I get to old to get in and out of the Vette II may sell the Vette and get an M6 BMW ...


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    I can pull it with my Chevy dually and go 1,000 miles plus..a quick stop to the bathroom, screw around ...and I am on my way ..
     
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    The faster you charge a battery the shorter it's useful life and the pollution associated with manufacturing these batteries is worse than manufacturing gasoline.
     
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    Is all the pollution from making batteries going to change?

    This is a fact. We have more cars on the road today than in the 1970s. People drive longer distances to work and we drive more for recreation than in the 1970s. Yet today are air quality is better than it was, significantly better unless you live in LA. The reason is that modern cars release a tiny fraction of the amount of pollution compared to older cars from even 10 years ago. If you did a little research you would see that they already have near zero emission cars coming out which puts them ahead of electric cars because mass producing batteries and recycling or disposing of them is catastrophic for the environment. Google the water pollution and massive strip mining needed to procure the resources to make all these batteries. Solar panels also suffer from the same problem as well which is why I won't support solar power till they get the organic ones on the market.
     
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    One never get to old to climb in and out of a vette, just to fat :)
     
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    I dunno, I like the idea of hybrid where they charge themselves and alternate between fuel and batteries! They just need to bring the price down to get me really interested!
     
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    If Tesla is going into commercial trucks, this is a game changer and buy Tesla stock.
    I have often stated Tesla needs to shift from high dollar exotic performance cars (limited to 150 mph) to commercial trucks - small, medium, large and semi-tractors if possible. 90+% of such trucks will not travel more than 200 or 300 miles per day. FedEx, Post Office, UPS.
    Many companies send endless numbers of trucks between the same locations, such as Amazon and WalMart between their various regional warehouses. All cargo containers coming off of ships are moved by trucks either to trains or distribution. Tesla already demonstrated an automated battery changing station can change batteries faster than filling up with fuel.

    Most semi-trucks are short haul, but even for long-haul 50 battery changing stations on Interstates would cover 95% of long-haul big rigs.

    To companies, it is simply a matter of which costs less in the long run: the higher price of an electric truck OR the lower costs of gasoline and diesel trucks PLUS ALL THE FUEL COSTS. At current costs, the fuel costs of a semi truck on the highway is about 50 cents per mile, have a million dollars for every million miles. Electric motors also are likely to be far less costly for maintenance and have much longer lifespans than diesel/gasoline-transmission trucks.

    But it probably would be the mid-sized delivery trucks - UPS, USPS, and FedEx that would be the real boom.

    Remember, most of Europe and countries of the rest of the world do not have the huge distances of the USA, and for distribution even in the USA it is overwhelming more regional than national - and much is even just local such as package and postal services.

    If Tesla trucks are economically viable for costs and can be made in enough varieties fast enough - and hold the market? WOW.
     
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