Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

Depends if it's in the course hurricanes take but I can't find information on this. Weathered steel quickly deteriorates in salty rain

 

Theres no readily available building material that cant be sawed through.

 

Their version isn't meant to succeed. It's designed to fail, so when it does they blame the other side and say we told you so.



Pre-fab concrete slabs hoisted into place would be the most cost effective barrier.

 

Salt water and steel are mortal enemies. In fact, imported steel is often coated with a messy oil (sucks having to work with this material) to protect it while in transit across the ocean. So yes, the closer you get to the gulf, the more of an issue it'll be. Otherwise though, the weather along the border will be easy on steel.

 

no it isn't a hand saw
its a battery operated grinder not powerful enough to consistently cut through 1/2 steel you would go through at least 4 disc and two charges to cut one post and yes I've used them when I worked construction

 

It was cancelled by Obama after $1 billion. Started under Bush in 2005. Its biggest issue was that it tried to use 1 technology for the entire border, when really different technologies in different areas are needed.

Instead they used unmanned drones and sensors at a fraction of the cost.

Now, that was technology designed in 2005, two years before the first iPhone was released. I wonder what a redesign in 2019 could do.

 

Rio Grande?

 

Just pass more saw laws!

 

It's going to take a combination of physical barriers (where they make sense to have), technology, and personnel. It's not a single solution problem.

 

Thank heavens a hole once cut can only be used by the person who made it.
If each hole could be used 100 times then your statement would be idiotic.

 

Well...the safes are there to keep your children from accidentally shooting themselves or you. Secondarily, they serve a purpose of making you take a small amount of time before allowing you to shoot so that hopefully you (or whomever knows the combination) cool down before using the gun out of rage or depression. But yea, the final and least likely benefit is to keep a stranger from accessing or stealing your firearm.

And I would note that cracking a safe is a heck of a lot harder than cutting a steel slat.

With all of that said, I get your point. And obviously some deterrant is better than no deterrant when it comes to slowing down violent criminals.

But like I said, the violent criminals who have a financial ince give to get through your wall will factor in the costs and resources necessary to do so. The family (or children) just trying to cross a harsh environment to reach friends and safety are more likely to become stranded in that harsh environment.

 

That saw hits that concrete and it will dull. They used an oxy-acetylene torch to cut that. It isn't easy with the concrete inside, but it obviously can be done. Hey, he wanted concrete and the dems said they wanted something else. Why? Because they knew concrete was better. Still, no matter what you put up, there is a way to breach it. This must be a comprehensive effort, not just a wall.

Businesses need held accountable. That would stop it. No one wants to even talk about that kind of effort. It's the easiest and quickest way, as long as folks don't get greedy and take payoffs, like our fed gov't does.

 

Even if I accept your figure (and I dont because it is both wrong and fails to account for benefits they provide), a wall does nothing in the short term to reduce those costs.

Over a very long period of time, if the wall reduced the flow of illegal immigrants by a certain percentage? The cost would be reduced, but you are basically using the roe v. Wade reduced crime argument.

 

They are still more effective and efficient than a wall.

 

Point of clarification. Dems did not say they wanted another type of wall. That was trump negotiating with himself.

 

So Trump is dumb? Got it. He chose the steel slats yet you blame it on the Dems??? Didn’t the Dems say it would be ineffective??

 

Why would they want to waste money doing so? When was the last time we went to the moon and what good did that do??

 

Republicans love themselves some cheap labor hence they haven’t done chit and you know it.

 

It’s simply not possible, otherwise banks would protect their money with cameras rather than the walls of a vault.

 

So let’s do nothing and just let the robbers, rapists, drug smugglers, human traffickers and murderers in.

 

I’ve never, not once, ever, seen a sensor equipped with a pair of handcuffs.

 

You’re not in management, are you? In management when we face a problem we brainstorm for solutions, you seem to just want to give up.

You know that technology the left has been selling? Well you place wires down the middle of each slat and if one is broken alarms go off. That technology has been around for a century. How ya gonna cut through a slat without breaking the wire?

 

Cool, glad to hear you support building the Wall and tightening border security. I don't care who has caused the problem, what Party, rich or poor. I want a Southern Border tight enough that 60,000 unescorted children per year aren't forced or tempted to travel through a hostile desert to get here and end up used and abused by whomever.

 

If wires were placed down the middle of each slat which would set off an alarm if broken then the slats would work if placed near border patrol posts. This is the same technology used in burglar alarms.

 

It cost a lot more of our dollars to defend Kuwait. Or N Korea. Or NATO.