The ‘Collusion’ Debate Ended Last Night

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  1. hawgsalot

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    Carry on Dems you've been right about so much involving Trump, glad you finally got him... TDS at it's finest, you guys are as bad as the Benghazi wacko's a few years back seriously.
     
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    That is and was a given and because of this, the rest of your post i did not quote is simple rationalisation.
     
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    By 2021, Putie won't have any more use for him or want him
     
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    IMO, his usefulness to his master will end a lot sooner than that.
     
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    In the end, how effective was Trump really? The next POTUS will follow the status quo, probably sign the TTP, sign the Paris Climate Agreement and there's nothing the Trump crowd could do about it. If you believe the Trump philosophy was awful for the country, there's one thing HRC got right: In our system, life moves on. We'll get a mainstream politician, in fact it might even make us more staunch Republican/Democrat voters than before.

    Which is the main reason I was anti-Trump. His biggest long lasting damage is that he's going to inadvertently entrench the pro-corporate Washington possibly for all time.
     
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    Are you telling me you couldn't determine who you needed to target in the campaign and only internal polls would do that? The internal polling is just more local and targeted to specific elections but you could go on RCP and see the big guys and their polling in those races too. And still waiting on what was the crime anyway?
     
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    That is false. Unless you are going to assert that indeed Russia did hack into her shadow server she was using for all her official emails including those containing highly classified information and then you are going to have to explain why she is not in jail for it. Or are you trying to claim the FBI illegally obtained them?
     
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    You think the spend millions in internal polling and don’t need it? Lol
    I love internet experts on things they know nothing about!
    And what was the crime? Lol yes it’s not illegal to give the Russian mob campaign data. Just like it’s not illegal for me to give a cocaine dealer some money...
     
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    Absolutely are you?

    How would I know why he told the FBI what he did? If he thought he did something wrong why didn't do as Hillary and say "I can remember"
    So to what crime was his answer material?
     
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    Sure they are going to get their own drilling down to local areas. But to spend a mere $40,000 on facebook on a national level?

    What's the crime here?

    What law says a campaign discuss their internal polling data with someone? We don't even know what Manafort allegedly gave to one of his business associates.
     
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    If that brainwashing is all that has made it into your consciousness, please don'i bother to vote.
     
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    Then why would they want Trump's polling data? Late night reading? And why would Manafort, Trump's campaign manager at the time, bother to give it to them?
     
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    Reading your 2 statements together is essentially admitting collusion and saying who cares lol
     
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    Again campaigns don’t spend millions on this data because it isn’t helpful lol
    Either you don’t know what it is or why campaigns do it, or you’re just being difficult. I’m honestly not sure which...
     
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    ...this post makes no sense. I dont have to admit or prove jack **** on how they obtained the emails.

    He asked them to release illegally obtained emails.

    Unless you want to argue that she voluntarily gave those emails to the Russians?
     
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    Sucks for you. I am voting the same as the overwhelming majority the voters. And that sucks for trump and the gop.

    But wait...why do you call the two things I referenced as brainwashing? Did trump not brag about grabbing women by the *****? Does trump not launch tweet storms at 3am in the morning?
     
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    FFS man. He lied becasue he knew what he did.

    The right keeps claiming that this data was nothing, and it was all publicly available, and “nothing to see here”, yet Manafor LIED that he did this. Hmmmmm....why would you lie......what could be the reason for a lie..........?

    Because the polling data serves one, and only one purpose ! NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS !
     
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    Thanks for the link! Good read and good info......the collusion goes much further than this IMO. Mueller will only charge what he can absolutely prove. I also wonder if Manafort's lawyers did not intentionally leak this info in the doc to give Trump a heads up as to where Mueller is as in what is provable.?
     
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    Never happen.
     
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    But, it should for justice to be served and to uphold the rule of law. None are above the law in a non-corrupt environment, but then, it is still what a free society should strive for ;).
     
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    True.

    Worst case scenario for Trump would be some sort of fine and probation.
     
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    ^ Complete silliness.
     

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