The Gruesome Reality of Racist South Africa

This still does not excuse the brutal murders of white people in South Africa.

In other words, you can't prove it. Thanks for playing.

 

the vast majority of people who go before the courts, are guilty, a small fraction are innocent, please don't attempt to suggest that there is a racial injustice simply because guilty people are put before the justice system... if you had any reading comprehension skill and applied it to my message, you would clearly have seen that I was suggesting to the user, if he's going to have a conspiracy theory and have some imaginative stretch of reality to worry about, he should worry about this far more practical and likely thing that could spread like wildfire quite easily with the communication systems we have today and people who are willing to "damn the man" and disrupt things just for the sake of disrupting them... I don't think its a likely outcome or reality at all, as most people who actually are willing to serve on a jury, are willing to give it an honest effort, because most folks who just want to screw with the world and cause trouble, are not the type who ever respond to serve on juries, they just throw that piece of paper aside and never show irregardless of the veiled threat they can face fines and imprisonment for failing to show and serve... when was the last time in the history of america, you saw someone convicted for not serving on a jury?

seriously... save the drama for your gossip time with the girls, I was simply throwing out a far more likely conspiracy theory than whats happening in africa currently... and by the way, I'm not white, so save the subtle racism claims for someone else, I likely understand far more about racism than you... most racism in america today is the result of people making themselves victims, rather than someone genuinely making them a victim of race... it seems you've bought in hook line and sinker to it as well... but by ALL means, cite some stats as proof of racism and lets discuss and go down that road... bring up how black people are imprisoned at a higher rate and lets have that discussion about is it racist or not, lets discuss traffic tickets and racism, lets discuss how white officers are statistically proven to be LESS likely to ticket black people, than black officers are likely to ticket black people... and please challenge me on this, I have government data to backup my assertions, will you have data or just rhetoric and manipulated data?

 

Does that mean you would be in favor of white South Africans (and Zimbabweans) being granted asylum in the US to escape ethnic cleaning?

 

That seems to be the progressive thinking on the matter. Whites victimized blacks, so blacks will understandably seek revenge and victimize whites for a certain period of time. Then, at some point, everyone will dust themselves off, shake hands, and then live in peace with each other. Of course, wealthy white progressive elites will presumably get a pass on this type of social justice.

 

Yet another example of why diversity is such a stupid idea to pursue.

Honestly, I can't understand how they could continue living there. I would never want to live in a country where 80% of the population was black, or any group other than white.

 

How little they understand human nature. That is truly frightening.

 

It's very ironic that people who think like you do would never voluntarily live in a place that didn't have a white majority, both in the neighborhood or country level. Europe is constantly held up as a standard, when it is majority white, even moreso than the US. Why do you guys feel a need to stay in white countries while simultaneously trying to change them into non-white countries?

And what evidence do you have that other races are not going to have the same "pernicious subjugating and dominating ways" that whites have had in the West? I provided a story in the OP that shows that blacks are every bit as capable, perhaps even more capable, of having "pernicious subjugating and dominating ways". I don't see blacks in any majority black country going out of their way to protect racial minorities like whites, which can't be said about whites in majority white countries.

I'd be more willing to believe the latter than your left-wing apologia, any day. Most blacks today never lived through apartheid, and over 90% of their murder victims are fellow blacks. Who is "provoking" them to kill each other? I assume your answer is to blame the white man, since that is what progressives do when unable to deal with the fact that their most loyal voting bloc is responsible for such a disproportionately high amount of violent crime in the country, despite being a relatively small minority. I think the real answer has something to do with the rotten street culture that they embrace, as well as the lack of a family structure, both of which can be blamed in large part on white, progressive elite Democrats, who compound the problem by making excuses for it, protecting their failed ideology.

What is "righteous and enlightened" about making the majority race into a minority? Would you support this same goal for any other race besides whites? No you would not. Progressives subscribe to the "noble savage theory" and then extend it to any dark skinned racial group. They are good, noble, pure people, and only do bad things when "provoked" by the "pernicious subjugating and dominating ways" of "whitey". Somehow by having a majority population with these "pure" people, our country will be made better off. I doubt wealthy white progressives will ever flee from their white majority suburb, however.

Or you progressives can be consistent in the practice of your ideology. You wouldn't tolerate such a disproportionately high "rape culture" if nearly 40,000 rapes of black women occurred every year by white males. When it goes the other way though? It's just "social justice". When given the choice between defending women and defending blacks, two left-wing constituency groups, you choose blacks, almost every time.

I pointed out "structural racism" in the OP, and you defended it in South Africa. I pointed out which group was currently being "oppressed", and you had no problem with it. There is no "system of white hegemony" in South Africa, there is a system of "black hegemony", and oppressing whites. You support this. You support "structural racism" just as long as whites are on the losing side of it. "Social justice" is simply revenge, and you can decorate it however you want, but you still take the position of defending rape and murder, based on race, to be nothing more than a "process". I find that sickening, and the really ironic thing is that you believe that your position is the one based on morality.

 

That's the progressive view. They don't want an end to racist violence, they want violence to be waged against whites by minorities (themselves excluded from this punishment, of course, since they are helping to facilitate this "justice").

 

Whites were the minorities in South Africa.

I guess violence used by the Boers was okay if it kept them sub-humans from getting uppity, right White Nationalist?

 

And white progressives wouldn't want to, either. They feel very comfortable living in white societies, even while trying to undermine white societies. Many of them fit the "Bill Ayers" mold. Rich, entitled kids who grew up and felt guilty that they had it so easy, so they make it their mission to become the protectors of minorities by trying to sabotage the lives of other whites.

 

Just because Boers had used violence in the past against the black people it does not mean that it is now ok for the black folks to use violence against the Boers. Two wrongs don't make a right.

 

It does, if you're a white progressive (in this case, socialist) who never has to face the consequences they advocate for others to face.

 

Oh, so it's OK for blacks to use their majority status to oppress the minority, then?

South Africa was a 1st world country when whites were in power. Now it's a 3rd world country, one of the most violent on Earth. Zimbabwe experienced a similar decline once whites lost power. In a sane world - one not run by Marxism and political correctness, this would be a cautionary tale to other countries around the world dabbling in the notion of replacing their white majority.

 

No, but nice strawman.

I merely pointed out that your "sky is falling" declaration that the blacks are committing genocide against the whites is a gross exaggeration and nonsensical.

 

I agree. The whole situation sucks.

 

I don't think he said that blacks are "committing genocide against whites". I think he only said "perhaps we should start a program to admit Boer refugees to the US". See post #3.

You are also accusing him of being an alarmist ("the sky is falling", which he did NOT say) for no good reason.

Lastly, you seem to imply that things will have to be as bad as a genocide for you to care about it.

 

What does that possibly have to do with my post about South Africa or for that matter left wingers?

OF COURSE there are racial problems in South Africa. I gotta luv some people thinking that waving a magic "anti-hate" wand can erase generations of segregation, subjugation, and oppression, merely by "handing over the reins" of government power from the oppressors to the oppressed.

And yes more whites will be murdered, just as more blacks will get murdered. As for paying attention? Seems you only pay attention when you think white folks are being oppressed or murdered?

do tell.

 

They wouldn't be using violence if they didn't have 60+ years of pent up anger from violent oppression.

Maybe the Boers should have voluntarily integrated society long ago.

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That propensity came on the backs of de facto slavery and fascist government policies.

 

It's a double standard. You are extremely quick to dismiss the over 3,000 racially inspired murders per year of whites in South Africa in the last decade as nothing more than a statistical minority, but you would never dismiss the over 3,000 racially inspired murders of blacks by the KKK as a statistical minority.

So how many more white people will be murdered by blacks in South Africa, for racial reasons, before white anti-racist progressives decide enough is enough? Will there ever come a point where that happens? Since you seem to believe it is justifiable retribution, I'm led to believe the answer is "no".

 

So the Boers deserve the violence they are receiving? Yes or no?

So rape and murder is justified.

Must be more of that socialist morality.

 

South Africa is the perfect Prophecy of what awaits the traditional European, and its settlers in the United States. " I think we should just kill all the whites"---- Oprah Winfrey

 

Notice how Questerr can't answer this question directly. They have an easy time justifying these things, but when it comes down to answering a direct question like this, they tend to shy away. Remember, in their minds, they are the moral ones, so when they are confronted with the realization that they have to advocate for the murder and rape of white villagers in South Africa, it harms the image they try to give off as the arbiters of morality.

 

Did the British deserve the violence they received in the revolutionary war or should the colonists have continued to be oppressed because violence is immoral?

 

Yeah, those of us on the left are just perverse like that. LOL!

 

I'm 100% for abolishing borders, therefore I find your question to be quite moot.