The malaise of Joe Biden

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  1. doombug

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    Why would I run for office?

    Whataboutism once again. How about telling us what the dems are doing to make things better?
     
  2. LangleyMan

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    If Trump is such an economic genius, how come economic growth in Trump's first three years was almost identical to Obama's last three?

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    Trump Kool-Aid should be avoided.
    But not s poser like Trump.

    He didn't do anything to fix this...

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    Because the economic growth under Trump was where the people are. Obama was pretty much watching the financial system rebuild itself.
    For every illegal alien Trump stopped, one job was available to an American.
     
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  4. LangleyMan

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    Afraid to get shown up as lacking knowledge?

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    You aren't even trying to engage in discussion. I've lost interest. With you, there's no "there" there.
     
  5. LangleyMan

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    An absurd dodge. The graph was from the St. Louis Fed. Trump was no better at generating economic growth than Obama.
    Gaslighting nonsense.
    Congrats. Nothing you've said makes any sense.
     
  6. RodB

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    It's hard to pinpoint economic causes and effects accurately, but do you not think stopping the Keystone pipeline, stopping production in much of the North Slope, greatly reducing drilling leases on federal land and off shore, not to mention his constant belligerent attitude toward oil companies and his avowed promise to end fossil fuels had no effect on supply???
     
  7. RodB

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    The "law" that says the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of government are separate and independent powers. Maybe you can find the literal statute; I don't know where it is.
     
  8. LangleyMan

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    Short-term? Not much. Long-term? There can be little doubt he's making us less secure where fossil fuels are concerned. Cancelling Keystone reduces our access to hundreds of billions of recoverable reserves in Alberta. While we need to transition from burning oil and gas to save the planet, we will damage our ability to keep the economy afloat if we get locked into cut-off-your-nose virtue signalling.
     
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    Saving the lives of legislators isn't interfering with the operation of Congress. The Posse Comitatus Act allows the President to use the DC National Guard.
     
  10. RodB

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    It sounds like you have a shortage of knowledge on how oil companies operate on a day to day basis in business and marketing: how they analyze and handle the entire intricacies of their business from exploration to drilling to production to transport to refining to distribution to delivery, and how they come up with supply chain and pricing in light of all of that and in the face of competitive pressures.......... or maybe not.

    While I disagree with your stated need to transition from fossil fuels to "save the planet," I appreciate your analysis of it.
     
  11. RodB

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    How do you or anyone else know what "interference" violates the separation of powers and what interference doesn't? Normally, if there is a question, the SCOTUS decides. In any case it should not be the branch that is doing the interfering, the executive branch in this instance, that determines if it is OK; that would completely obliterate the separation of powers concept.
     
  12. LangleyMan

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    I know people on the production side and have a long, unhappy relationship with oil companies on the distribution side. I ran an auto repair firm many years ago when they did their damnedest to run us out of the business of selling gasoline as part of our car wash operation. Mobil Oil, later ExxonMobil—may the former Mobil executives burn in hell right along with the state of California officials who did nothing to stop them from selling gasoline below cost. Daily decision on the production side are based on what I observe. The main impact on prices short-term is through refining.
    I can't imagine why you appear to reject global warming.
     
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  13. Pollycy

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    Gentlemen, rather than merely "piling-on", I'm going to remind all of us, again, that as bad as things are in the Administrative Branch (and with Congressional Democrat rule, too, for that matter), we must hope-against-hope that Geriatric Joe Biden REMAINS IN OFFICE!

    CONSIDER THE ALTERNATIVE if Biden were to leave office. Think it over clearly, gentlemen -- do you for one moment want to see 'the Jamaican Voodoo Queen' perched behind the big desk in the Oval Office?! As horrible as Biden is, I'd prefer him even if he were drooling on himself, soiling his trousers, and rolling in-and-out of coherent thought rather than have that other thing in total power for even one minute!

    So, HANG IN THERE, JOE -- THE COUNTRY NEEDS YOU! :dead:
     
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  14. RodB

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    I didn't say I reject global warming. I said I reject the destruction of the planet idea.
     
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    There are statutes including Posse Comitatus that allow for exceptions. Of course, any action is subject to judicial review.
    The courts referee disputes between states, and the feds and states.
     
  16. LangleyMan

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    While I don't disagree with your concern about Harris, your label for her doesn't cut it.
     
  17. LangleyMan

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    Okay. The planet was here after the dinosaurs were wiped out.
     
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    Posse Comitatus has nothing to do with and has no connection or relevance with the federal separation of independent powers -- the fundamental foundation of our government and the Constitution. Neither does states vs states or federal vs states.
     
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    By destruction of the planet I was referring to the calamitous predictions of what would happen to areas of the planet and to societies/countries/cities because of global warming. As George Carlin aptly described, the planet itself will always be at least a good sized rock floating around in the heavens -- forever.
     
  20. LangleyMan

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    Posse Comitatus defines when it's permissible for the federal executive to use federal troops in the United States.
     
  21. LangleyMan

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    There is good reason to believe major areas of the planet will have higher temperatures for extended periods that can sustain human life.

    https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/07/10/1028172/climate-change-human-body-extreme-heat-survival/

    This will see millions of desperate people leaving some countries.
     
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    I've enjoyed this discourse, but you intransigence and complete refusal to accept reality makes further conversation pointless. In closing let me repeat for the record: The Constitution enforces separation of independent branches and Posse Comiataus has no effect whatsoever and nothing to say about it. That would be like passing a federal law that does away with the electoral college.
     
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    .... or could as readily improve human life. I'm getting way off topic (sorry) but there is ample evidence, swept under the rug by most of the climate science community, that increased CO2 emissions will have less and less affect on atmospheric temperatures.
     
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    I didn't write the law.

    Posse Comitatus can be suspended by invoking the Insurrection Act:

    "Invoking the Insurrection Act temporarily suspends the Posse Comitatus rule and allows the president to deploy the military to assist civilian authorities with law enforcement. That might involve soldiers doing anything from enforcing a federal court order to suppressing an uprising against the government. Of course, not every domestic use of the military involves law enforcement activity. Other laws, such as the Stafford Act, allow the military to be used to respond to natural disasters, public health crises, and other similar events without waiving the restrictions of the Posse Comitatus Act."

    https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/insurrection-act-explained
     
  25. LangleyMan

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    You're correct—this is off topic if we keep it up.
     
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