"The Squad"

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Need you be reminded....China is a repressive, aggressive atheistic, Communist Nation. Some would like that here. Israel is a Democratic ally that has a lot in common with the United States. We adhere pretty similarly to our Bill of rights.
     
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    Republicans, not Democrats, are using the so-called "Identity Politics" to divide us. Democrats see it as the true reflection of how American society has arranged itself over time, & trying to work with that reality in the least destructive way possible. Pretending that America is a "melting pot," with everyone being stamp clones of each other philosophically, & politically, has never worked. Trump & Republicans know this, but choose to spend their time blaming Democrats rather than finding solutions themselves. If Trump & Republicans are convinced they're right, why aren't they installing policies & programs to deal with the problems instead of always finding fault & complaining? If our southern border is an example of Trump's & Republican's ability to resolve issues, then we're all in trouble.
     
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    Notice....Donald Trump very seldom mentions race except when sighting economic improvements for blacks and Latinos (which the latter is not a race anyway). He does talk often about socialists and globalists. When he does, that is when the left ALWAYS turns it into a racial discussion. It never fails. The left wing media's most often used word is race race race. "Rules for Radicals" tells the left they need to isolate the citizens (identity politics), then convince the groups how bad they have it. That IS your game plan lefty and we're on to it! You don't really give a whit about the races, rather you want to transform America into a globalist, socialist Nation. Exactly why you go bonkers with President Donald J. Trump!!! MAGA!!!
     
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    I am not racist so I will address the 7/8 of you that is not Creek as well as your self righteous claim that men and women with "white skins" are racist. You are a racist and since your remarks are against the majority, many of which have American Indian blood in their background, you are a hypocrite as well. We are a melting pot and you most likely desire a socialist transformation. Good luck lefty!
     
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    I see why you like Trump. You sound like him. I'm a liberal Democrat who is strongly aware of the rapidly growing global community forming all around us. It's a new stage in human development, much like tribes becoming communities, & communities becoming states, & states becoming nations. Now nations are becoming interconnected global communities that cross all the old dividing lines artificially imposed on them in the past. I support that change because many of the new, challenging issues facing us face ALL of us together, & demand--require--our combined & sustained efforts together for resolution. Global warming is one of them. Human survival in the age of nuclear weapons is another. We can't continue living in the national state of consciousness in a world gone global. We must change & adapt, or we'll be eliminated from the equation. I recognize this changed situation & am ready to adapt. I know many others aren't, but if they win, we all lose. You want that?
     
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    I know why you feel the way you do as do I. Your world view seems to be that mankind has evolved to a sort of "enlightenment". Most globalist think that way, but I think those that aspire to be at the top ....know better. Their desire is for a better concentration of power and wealth.
    My worldview is that mankind has a nature about him that is inherently flawed. If and when he fails to recognize that, he/she will suffer at the hand of tyrants. That is why our "Founders" in their wisdom, came up with a system of checks and balances never used before or since. A concentration of power can be beneficial, but it is extremely dangerous. Sure, Nations should desire treaties among themselves and ideally honor those treaties. However given human nature, they will fail from time to time.
    Note: I am not pointing fingers now. I use checks and balances against my own human nature. A large Central Elitist governing force should send chills up the spine of every American......especially if they know History.
    Man caused Climate Change is just a clever way to gain power over others. I know you disagree with me as I disagree with you. I have seen science manipulated just too much in my lifetime.
     
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    I liked your post this time more than most of yours. I say that because I sense thoughtfulness, openness & honesty in it--and I appreciate all those whenever & wherever I find them. :)
    Of course, I disagree with SOME of what you say, but that's OK. America is supposed to be a place where disagreement is part of the culture--along with respect for the person or persons we disagree with. Every generation of Americans have had to deal with this conundrum--including the founding fathers themselves. So, I guess we're in good company.

    1. I find myself in agreement with the first part of your #1 statement above. I do see mankind on the verge of stepping up a significant level in its overall consciousness--meaning being more attentive & concerned with global issues, like the ongoing pollution we keep adding to our environment that endangers most species of animal life already, & can eventually endanger our own; global warming, that poses the same threat for life on Earth just mentioned; war, which now has the capacity to end civilization & send humanity back into the stone age, or eliminate it altogether, etc. The list goes on. It requires only a small step upward in consciousness for us to become more aware & responsive to these issues to save Earth & all life on it. And, it's worth the effort. You're right about me here. I believe we're ready for that step upward. I know we're capable. All we lack is the will. I want to find the will.

    I disagree with the last part of your #1 above. If we take Trump as an example, I don't think he knows better about any topic that comes to mind, & certainly not regarding power & wealth. The man's never had to face financial need in his entire life. How could he possibly know more than anyone who has? Trump sees everything in life & the world around him in terms of what potential he has to gain from it personally. For him, there is no other consideration involved--even as President of the U.S. He makes all his decisions as President on how that choice will benefit him personally in some way--politically or financially. He never decides based on what's best for the nation or its people. I don't regard that thinking or Trump himself as an asset to America.
    2. I see & understand your conviction that mankind is "flawed." If by that you mean every human is prone to making mistakes, miscalculations, misinterpretations & misjudgments, then I agree. But if you mean being inherently "flawed," in the sense of being less than acceptable, I disagree. I am a liberal, & a globalist, & within that perspective, I see mankind as much more capable than his current behaviors would imply. I just don't believe he's discovered how to measure up to his own potential yet. But that doesn't imply he can't. As stated above in the opening paragraph of my response, I believe mankind is on the verge of making that crucial step upward right now. He can. And I desperately want him to succeed. Buy he won't if he believes he's incapable or inherently "flawed." You can fault me for my faith in mankind's abilities, & continue helping convince him of his "flaws." Or, you could take a leap of faith & join those of us trying to move mankind upward into a new level of potential that could open a whole new world of opportunity, peace, beauty, lifestyle & life itself, for us all.

    I agree with you & your support of the Checks & Balances system framed within the U.S. Constitution. I also support it completely. That's one reason why I have such difficulty supporting Trump, who is doing more than any President in my lifetime to erode that hallowed system. For example. . .the Dept of Justice (DOJ) has historically maintained some distance from the President as assurance that not even He (the President) could ever be regarded as above the law. Trump is the first President in history to demand & gradually over time, convince the DOJ to become loyal to & subservient to, him personally, rather than the Constitution. Attorney General Barr, the head of the DOJ, has succumbed to Trump already. Add to that, the current DOJ policy that no criminal charges can be allowed to be taken against a sitting President, plus the numerous attempts by Trump to delay, dislodge, or squelch the ongoing investigations against him, then there's a real danger for the Checks & Balances system to be abrogated by this President. And that endangers the future of our entire system of government. Much damage has already been done.

    3. I too, have seen science facts misinterpreted, misused or even ignored altogether for political or personal reasons. I have more sympathy for your view here than you will probably ever realize. I understand the difficulty most people have in relating to, understanding, or accepting global warming. It's probably the first "global" issue most humans living today have ever had to deal with. The vast majority of humans on Earth are attuned to national & international issues, usually involving 1-3 countries. Global issues are new & difficult to grasp by most. But modern technology is affecting & afflicting the Earth itself, & as a byproduct, both natural systems & living organisms on that Earth--including us, & we have to become more in tune with this process & our involvement & mismanagement of it, to fix it, or suffer the consequences of our ignorance. As you implied, I see the scientific evidence--especially that coming from both Polar regions, & I'm convinced of global warming. As a person with a degree in geography, I am very much aware of the sensitive balance of forces working within all the natural systems on the Earth, and how one small toxic change can spread to affect the other systems. It's a concept hard to teach others who are less familiar with global geographic systems. But as I've often posted on this forum, if we choose to fix global warming, our efforts will do nothing but improve the global environment for our children & their descendants. It will be a great investment in humanity's future, even if global warming proved to be false. But if we choose to ignore global warming & it proves to be true, then we're automatically sentencing our descendants to a life of continual danger, discomfort & constant challenge just to survive on an ever more unfriendly Earth. For me, this is an easy choice, but I don't really understand the thinking or the personal values of those who ignore both the evidence & the dangers inherent in a decision to ignore. These people are choosing to endanger their own offspring--their own descendant's lives, along with the potential future of humanity & wildlife on this planet. I understand the doubt, but I don't understand how anyone could choose non-action when action results in such positive outcomes, regardless of the global warming issue.
     
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    As Thomas Jefferson stated, in 1801:

    "[M]ight not the general character and capabilities of a citizen be safely communicated to every one manifesting a bona fide purpose of embarking his life and fortunes permanently with us?"

    Jefferson--like all of the Founders--believed in assimilation.

    Evidently, the current generation of Americans--some of them, anyway--believes that they know better than Jefferson and the other Founders just what America should be like.
     
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    I simply cannot believe that you posted this!

    In reality, my politics are center-right. (I voted for Donald Trump in 2016; and I almost certainly will again, in 2020.)

    And--as stated previously--I believe in assimilation--not in multiculturalism.

    I will stand by that.
     
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    Jefferson, a great man, wrote in the Declaration of Independence that "all men are created equal," but owned slaves. He even had children with his dead wife's half sister, Sally Hemings, but kept those children in his household as slaves because their mother was a slave. Jefferson advocated for ending slavery in America as a young man, but never supported giving blacks equal rights. He argued against inter-racial marriage throughout his life. I admire Jefferson for many reasons, & regard him as a great man, but I don't feel he had any better feel for what America should be like than myself, who has the benefit of over 200 years of historical experience to learn from. Those 200+ years have changed America in many ways that are positive in the sense of human rights, individual rights, civil rights, and the way we regard & treat each other as Americans.

    Yes, Jefferson believed in assimilation--but of white assimilation only. Of all the founding fathers, I doubt if any other than possibly Ben Franklin ever even considered assimilating blacks into society as co-equals. In the history available to us since, there has never been a time when we have been fully assimilated, though the various ethical & racial & religious & language groups of us have all adopted the major elements of American idealism & that has helped unite us as a distinct culture. As they immigrated into America, all the different ethical, racial, religious & language groups have tended to settle together into distinct communities. That hasn't prevented them from becoming true "Americans" in any sense of the word. But white prejudice has prevented that quite regularly over the decades. Assimilation has become a new conservative buzz word, but it has been mainly conservatives in the past who were most resistant to non-white assimilation. It's strange to say the least, & disingenuous at worst, to see them advocating for assimilation now. In either case, it has never happened & chances of it happening now, are slim to none. But we can work with what we have & what we actually are--a multicultural society comprised of every kind of people from every conceivable region of the planet. And that's a beautiful thing. :)
     
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    I take it you might be younger than I . There are some things that can be pointed out that helped to shape my viewpoint.
    My own generation thought they had arrived. There was a song...."this is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius". We were going to save the world, only a lot of our leaders died young of drug overdoses. I was a father of three young impressionable boys when Michael Jackson and Hollywood types held hands and sang "We are the World, We Are the Children, We are the ones to make a better day....." Well, we know how that turned out. Michael Jackson, during that time was getting young boys in bed with him then paying them off. How many of those Hollywood types were flying to Lollita land on Epstein's chartered flights? Peter Paul and Mary had a song...."To everything turn turn urn, there is a season turn turn"....that song was out of the Book of Ecclesiastes. I like that Book. It also says "There is nothing new under the sun." I believe that. If we want Utopia, we need to look beyond this world. It is the only way. Mankind is not only flawed.....he/she has a propensity toward "evil" if not checked. Don't think Globalism is the answer.
    You speak of "global Warming". Al Gore predicted half our cities would be under water a decade ago. Have you ever seen the AC units on top of Al Gores many mansions? He flys private jets where ever he goes. Gore doesn't believe what he has preached, but he captivates you!
     
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    Did you know Betsy Ross was an abolitionist? Lefties like to imply she was a racist! Could it be you are learning an indoctrinating history? Did you know quite a lot of our Founders had a distaste for slavery? They believed that "All men (and women) were endowed by their Creator with certain, unalienable rights." It has taken time, but things have gotten much better because they worked toward that objective through a system of Liberty as opposed to political correctness and government force.
     
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    Tlaib isn't 'of color'

    In the supercharged race hustle of today's left-wing politics, everyone wants super-victim racial status.

    Racist is what they call somebody who wins an argument with a liberal. A lot of liberals are losing the argument to President Trump this last week, as the media and the Democrats have rocked the heavens with cries of "racist," for Trump suggesting that certain far-left congresswomen might be happier in another country.

    Trump's rhetoric, as always, is spot on. The walls are closing in on Ilhan Omar, the most enthusiastically hateful member of Congress. Evidence of her immigration fraud is overwhelming and will only intensify as more media outlets have to cover the story. She will be an enormous lingering embarrassment to her party. The only question is, how will the U.S. attorney in the Twin Cities, Erica McDonald, proceed? She is definitely plugged into the GOP establishment of that state and is well aware of the need for a grand jury to look into this. But will she have the guts to follow the law, or just wimp out, in another case of Minnesota nice?

    Perhaps we can be more optimistic about another guy screaming the loudest about racist Trump: Rep. Elijah Cummings, whose wife's charity received millions in a pay-to-play scheme. Baltimore Democrats are not only corrupt, but so sloppy that they often leave the feds no choice but to prosecute.

    The most glaring fact about the Squad of Four "women of color" running amok in the Congress: one of them is obviously a white woman. This rather makes calling their critics racist even more absurd. Rashida Tlaib was born in Detroit of Palestinian Arab ancestry. Arabs from the Near East are white, and always have been, as far as the U.S. Census Bureau and American society at large are concerned.

    In the supercharged race-hustle of today's left-wing politics, though, everyone wants super-victim racial status. Not many American politicos are actually full descendants of black American slaves, so we have a lot of them scrambling to fit under the title "brown" or "of color." So far, none of the many white ethnic groups of the Near East — Greek, Jew, Arab, Turk, Kurd, Armenian, etc. — has been able to achieve this transformation and make it stick. But left-wing Arabs and Persians are fighting to make it so, and Tlaib takes every opportunity to tell Speaker Pelosi that she and her gal pals are all women of color. (Never mind that ethnic groups from the Near East are relative newcomers to America and have no history of mistreatment in this country.)

    You know this has got to be killing Dems like Pelosi and her allies, who would love to play the "of color" trope themselves — ancestry South Italy or Jewish — but would get clobbered worse than Rachel Dolezal if they actually crossed that line.

    For Palestinian Arabs, though, fantasy politics is a way of life, and they are good at it. Palestinian wingnut Linda Sarsour admits that everyone considered her white growing up in New York City, so she started wearing a hijab and insisting she was "of color" as a basic element of her political shtick. This play-pretend has some really determined hucksters pushing it.
     
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    1. According to Einstein, time is relative. And age is based on a measure of time. So, age is relative too. :)
    2. I enjoyed your #2 post above. Thank you for taking the time & effort to share it. It describes a process we all continually go thru as individuals. I understand & relate to it more than you realize.
    3. I AM old enough to realize there is, & never will be, any FINAL answer. Every answer to any given new issue, will always carry within it a whole new set of challenges never dealt with before, & often with outcomes that have never been experienced before. Global warming is no exception. But global warming is the first GLOBAL issue to manifest in human consciousness as an issue no country or single society can fix alone. It forces us to look beyond our familiar comfort zone, & engage with others who are new to us in many ways. It is a forced learning process with unpleasant outcomes if we fail. But the real positive within it, is that regardless of whether scientists are right or wrong, if we work together across national, ethnic, racial, religious, & other boundaries, the results of our efforts will mark a notable improvement in the human environment globally, making it cleaner & healthier for us all. I am often quite puzzled why conservatives fight so hard against something that would have such positives outcomes.
    4. Regardless of Al Gore's personal negatives, he has done the world a tremendous favor by alerting us to what could be a very real threat to human survival on this planet. Regardless of whether it reaches that level of intensity, it WILL have a huge impact on human communities & human migrations worldwide. That's not a small thing. Those migrations have already begun, & they will intensify far beyond anything we've seen so far. They will change the human face of Earth. They will impact every country, every society, every ethnic group across every continent on the planet. Nothing will stay the same. Taking the first crucial steps in addressing this approaching storm, and doing it in the right way, is more important than any other issue facing us now. The tragedy is that few of us are aware of it or its implications--including our current leaders.
     
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    I agree with everything you said in your post. I didn't know about Betsy Ross being an abolitionist. That's interesting. I did know many of our founding fathers disliked slavery, but even some of those didn't believe blacks should ever be assimilated into society as equals. I agree things have improved over time, but feel our current Republican leadership is betraying that progress, by using racism as a political tool for gaining votes. Congressional Republicans refused to renew the 1964 Civil Rights Act. In 2015, Trump began his quest for the White House with a seething attack on Mexicans, & has never relented since. Trump made racism an issue in American campaigns for the first time in years, & I don't respect him for that. While I agree with you as an opponent of government force, even that had its place in expanding our American freedoms after the Civil Rights Act of 1964, by forcing resistors to comply with the law. It would have taken far longer to establish those rights had the government not done so. I guess there really is "a time for every purpose." :)
     
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    I would beg you to show me an instance where Trump has made "race" an issue. He tries to enforce immigration laws......is that a race issue? Please nail it down for me because the way I see it, the ones promoting "identity politics" 24/7 always makes race an issue. It is their narrative.
     
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    The things that come to mind immediately:
    1. Trump's speech opening his campaign for President in 2015, where he called all Mexicans (at least all those crossing the border), criminals, rapists, etc.
    2. When Trump lost a case in court, he claimed the judge was incompetent because he was Mexican.
    3. When Trump said both sides of the racial issue in Charlottesville, VA had "good people" in it. He never voiced concern or rage over the killing of the white college female by the white supremacist with a car.
    4. His continuing insistence that the 5 black men who were cleared by the NY Police forensics people, need to be put back in jail. He doesn't care about their innocence.
    5. His decades long refusal to rent any of his rental properties to blacks.
    I'm sure there's more. These are just off the top of my head.
     
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    1, .Didn't call ALL mexicans crossing the border criminal and racists. That is a lie promoted by MSM. He said some.....and that is true.
    2. He said the judge was incompetent because he was a member of "La Raza".... a radical racist legal team.
    3. Nothing there is racist. He just didn't react to favor your concern. That was not an action.
    4.Don't know about this one.
    5, You'll have to prove that one.I know before he ran for President, Oprah fawned all over him. MSM has started all kinds of rumors, none which ever existed in his decades of public life before becoming President. This whole racist thing is a lie.
    https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=a40f1d827a7db62a2adb8a6f62569215&oe=5DAAB870
     
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    Look, if you like Trump, that's fine. It's your right. There's a long list of reasons I don't like him--as a person or as a President. That's my right. If he's the kind of human being you like representing you & your country, then vote for him. He's NOT the kind of human being I want representing me or my America, so I won't vote for him. I'm just hoping there are more voters out there agreeing with me than you in 2020.
     
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    Im not sure that the issue is so much that they "know better" I just think they don't actually care about anything other than becoming the only voice in the room, and to that extent, are working feverishly to squelch out any competing narratives. And if the isolation of others helps them accomplish that, then all the better. When you can call out folks who don't agree with you as being haters, and hate speech, the mechanisms in the law to "fix" that become available to you. This is so absolutely transparent.

    When progressives whine about not being able to silence those who oppose them, they actually wholly mean squelch. For most progressives, like that Alyssa representative from MA, voices that don't speak out for their race are unwanted. Simple, basic racism being used to isolate others from what progressives feel is the right to speak publicly in this country. We have all seen this movie before. And lurking just below the "concern" for this nation they express is the actual horror of their actual intent which is tyranny and subjugation. It's really right there for everyone to see.
     
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    And those congresswomen walk, quack and in every way demonstrate they ARE ducks, the kind who hate every idea except their own, thrive on ego feed and are abundantly incompetent.
    The ideas are literally crazy, the standards they speak to are gross hypocrisy, and they make it pretty clear they hate the America that has given them the rights to act this way.
    These women are about as unfit for their positions as it can get, and you can't call such uncomplimentary people names that don't fit and be far off the mark.

    Amazing how Trump-hate makes people shuck their common sense, their values and self-respect- but we see it everyday.
    America needs men and women- responsible, mature adults, not childish wackos with double standards who hate everyone who doesn't agree.
    Leadership takes backbone and courage and toughness. It's been politically correct for a very long time to pretend you are a nice guy up front, while playing hardball behind closed doors- and no president who couldn't play hardball could be worth a damn. Trump is a new kind of president, in that he doesn't hide that part- it's right up front. He's not wrong- but he's different, perhaps the first to not BS you into thinking how nice he is. Deal with it.
     
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    No one is discussing your right. We were discussing a pack of lies floated by leftists in America. I did vote for him and now that I know he keeps his promises to the best of his ability.....I will vote for him again.
     
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    Popcorn!

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    PELOSI LOOKS FREAKED in Meeting with ‘Squad’ Leader Ocasio-Cortez on Democrat Party Dumpster Fire
     
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    Trump said he would listen if a foreign government approached him with damaging information about a political rival -- and wouldn't necessarily report the contact to the FBI.

    "I think you might want to listen," Trump said in an interview with ABC News that aired on Wednesday. "There isn't anything wrong with listening."

    In the interview Trump suggested that rebuffing foreign governments would be unwarranted -- and unnecessary to report to federal law enforcement authorities.

    "I think I'd want to hear it," Trump said,

    On June 9, 2016, three high power executives of the draft dodger's campaign, Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner (Trump's son-in-law), and Paul Manafort (Trump's campaign manager), knowingly met with four Russian operatives at Trump's home, Trump Tower, to get dirt on the Clinton campaign.

    Trump -- standing alongside Russian President Vladimir Putin -- touted Putin's vigorous denial and said, "I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today."

    Rep. Mike Quigley (D-IL) asked Mueller about whether he agreed with comments made by then-CIA director Mike Pompeo in April 2017, who described WikiLeaks as a de-facto “hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia.” Mueller said he agreed with Pompeo’s assessment,

    • October 10, 2016 in Wilkes-Barre, PA: "This just came out," Trump said. "WikiLeaks, I love WikiLeaks.
    • October 12, 2016 in Ocala, FL: "This WikiLeaks stuff is unbelievable," Trump said. "It tells you the inner heart, you gotta read it."
    • October 13, 2016 in Cincinnati, OH: "It's been amazing what's coming out on WikiLeaks."
    • October 31, 2016 in Warren, MI: "Another one came in today," Trump said. "This WikiLeaks is like a treasure trove."
    • November 4, 2016 in Wilmington, OH: "Boy, I love reading those WikiLeaks."
    Quigley then asked for Mueller’s reaction.“Problematic is an understatement in terms of what it displays and should be illegal activity,” Mueller said.

    “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said during the election campaign. "I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

    Trump is a fool. It is why Putin picked him.
     
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    Who do Trumpets want to talk about? Four women of color in the House, freshmen representatives and racial hatred. In a note of pure irony, Trump's fans do not want to talk about Trump. They far prefer talking about Democrats, especially radical leftists. Like Trump, they dream the extremists represent the Democratic Party, but then they believe everything Trump says, no matter how ridiculous.
     

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