The West fears Russia is about to attack Ukraine. But that's not the way Russians are seeing it on T

At first yes. The German bankers weren't the only ones to make the mistake of thinking "we can handle this Hitler fellow".

Stalin was flat out crazy by this time, but you don't back crazies up to the wall either.

 

All in all, Bandera was more of a hero, and less of a Nazi collaborator, than Joseph Stalin.

 

Who did not flirt with Hitler. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement

 

Only the Soviet Union became an ally of Nazi Germany.

 

Politics is a dirty business.
Stalin was forced to conclude an alliance in order to delay the outbreak of war. The Union was not ready for war. Germany was already at war in Europe. We had to make the most of the time. It is no secret that Stalin himself was preparing for an offensive to the west. He was only a couple of weeks late. Hitler outplayed and was able to strike when the Soviet army was not ready for defense, because it was preparing for an attack.

 

Putin's aggression does not seem well thought out.

Why Putin’s gamble on Ukraine is insane
Opinion by Carl Bildt

". . . It’s a huge strategic gamble by the Kremlin — one that has led to a situation in which Putin must either climb down from his extensive demands or launch a military operation likely to lead to large-scale war in Europe.

None of the fears the Kremlin’s propaganda play on have any foundation in reality. The last consequential NATO expansion was decades ago. No one was seriously contemplating NATO membership for Ukraine or Georgia. Plans for U.S. missiles in eastern Ukraine targeting Russia are pure fantasy. No sane person sees the risk of Norway, Estonia, Ukraine or any other border state planning to invade Russia. . . . "

 

Actually, the Nazi-Soviet alliance was signed before WW2 began. Your post is all fantasy.

 

Doesn’t change the fact that the USSR, in collaboration with nazi Germany, started WWII. Facts are facts, and Ukrainian Bandera is a poster boy of civility compared to the crimes USSR committed against Ukraine and its neighbors.

 

I admit I messed up the year. But Germany was preparing for war - and it was hard not to notice it.

Munich Agreement fact too

 

Sure.
But countries that participated in Munich agreement aren’t massing troops on Ukrainian border and aren’t publicly questioning Ukrainian fundamental right to exist. Contrary, it’s the country that signed Ribbentrop-Molotov pact that is taking threatening posture. I’ll go even more - Pootins rhetoric on Ukraine is strikingly similar to Hitlers rhetoric when he was arguing that the Chekhoslovakia was persecuting native Germans, just like Ukrainians are supposedly persecuting Russian speaking Ukrainians (and as a Russian speaking Ukrainian I can assure you it’s a lie, if you truly believe this rhetoric).

 

Apparently you don't understand that the U.S. signed (through President FDR) the neutrality act.....before WW2 began. Talk about fantasies and re-writing history. The U.S. sat on its ass while Hitler went across Europe, it was only when Japan attacked that the neutrality act went by the wayside. The U.S. even sat on its ass while the Brits got their asses kicked out of France at Dunkirk.

 

Germany and Poland started the war. End of story.

 

It was the alliance with the Soviet Union that was the final green light for Hitler's invasion of Poland. Stalin enabled the start of WW2.

 

The Soviet Union enabled Germany to start WW2.

 

Yes, we were neutral until we were attacked, although we provided quite a bit of aid to the UK. Not the same thing as being an actual ally of the Nazis, as was the Soviet Union. US aid to the Soviet Union began before the US entered the war.

 

Stalin himself was preparing to start a war and attack Hitler ... he did not have time.

 

Nonsense.

 

Maybe according to Russian history books, because Stalin was embarrassed to admit his part, but for the rest of the world WWII started with Germany and USSR partitioning Poland.
Again, facts are facts.

 

Unfortunately no. Stalin was preparing for an offensive war in the western direction ... German forces were concentrated there. It was for this reason that Germany's blow was so crushing that the Soviet Union did not make defense. He was preparing an attack in a maximum of 2 weeks. And until the last hour (!) He tried to make Hitler play for time.

 

Lie my ass. They themselves are self-proclaimed Neo-nazis. As if the nazi salute and swastika flags they carry aren't enough to show who they are

 

I believe this is called historic revisionism.
But, go on.

 

You are essentially correct! Although historians and 'analysts' disagree about whether the German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact of 1939 could have 'stood the test of time', if neither Hitler nor Stalin broken it, it is certain that Germany would have gone on to defeat Britain and consolidate its western European empire.

Some of the more insightful writings I've seen about Stalin's real beliefs seem to indicate that he thought of Nazi "National Socialism" as being just another kind of Communism, with a different 'strong man' (i.e., Hitler) running the thing in much the same way that he -- Joseph Stalin -- was running the Soviet Union.

 

You just don’t understand who their opponents are:

 

That's merely a conspiracy theory masquerading as history that has been laughed out of the discussion by historians. Ironically, it was originally published to attack Stalin's memory.

 

These people have been condemned for a long time. In Russia, there is a criminal article for propaganda of fascism and the demonstration of the swastika as its manifestation.

May be. But at least this theory explains well why, during all the preparations for the war, Stalin did not have a strong defense and missed the first blow. He was preparing for war on foreign territory.