Transgender UPenn smashes TWO US women's records in weekend competition and finishes one race 38 sec

Actually its quite far away.

The nerves and how they will operate with the rest of the body, especially the CNS is well beyond anything we have today or will have for likely several lifetimes.

 

We need to bite the bullet and declare a third category for trans people in sports (or maybe even a 4th?), it's not fair on those born women, they will never be able to compete with those born men (outside shooting, archery etc).

 

You might see this thread: How they turn the penis inside out to make a vagina

 

If I do so and people at my work refuse to call me Shaquanda and “her” and refuse to take me seriously when I try to discuss how our black people have suffered so long at the hands of whitey.... should they get fired?

 

Cant have a trans sport category. There are not enough of them to make a competitive league.

 

I suggest you go look at Wills times when he was swimming as a man.

 

Great news! Lia Thomas proved women can be as good in sport as men!

 

Second female Penn swimmer steps forward, describes teammates in tears
A source says Penn administration 'strongly advise' its swimmers to avoid talking to the media about the situation surrounding Thomas

""Usually everyone claps, everyone is yelling and cheering when someone wins a race. Lia touched the wall and it was just silent in there," OutKick’s source said during a phone interview.


"When [Penn swimmer] Anna [Kalandadze] finished second, the crowd erupted in applause."

Friday, Thomas set a new 500 freestyle Ivy League record. Saturday saw Thomas touch the wall in the 200 freestyle, which is now the nation’s fastest time in the event. And then there was the 1650 that left fans in disgust.

OutKick’s source said that after the 200 freestyle, Thomas could be overheard bragging."
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/seco...teps-forward-describes-teammates-in-tears.amp

When will the adults in the room stand up and say enough is enough of these charades? And this guy has that gall to BRAG about it? Isn't there anyone there to smack him down? I wish with all the women standing behind the blocks when they announce swimmers take your mark they would all just turn around pick up their towels and walk away to leave him to swim by himself.

And note the school is trying to censor the swimmers.

 

How do he do that?

 

There is no need for the "biologicaly-" prefix, it is superfluous.

 

What we say and quite correctly is that HE is not a woman HE is a man.

 

It was a cynical comment. Now every political party can declare there is no any discrimination - all white men political party can declare that 1/3 of them are women and 1/3 of them are Blacks - and no more racism, no more misogyny!

 

This is a level playing field?

"The guidelines, which are employed by most sports federations, also established that trans female athletes must maintain testosterone levels below 10 nanomoles per liter. That’s on the far low end for most cisgender males but higher than average for cisgender women, whose testosterone typically falls between 0.3 and 2.4 nanomoles per liter."
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc...dge-after-year-hormone-therapy-study-n1252764

The men can still have 5 to over 10 times the testosterone levels and compete against the women?

 

Alright I'm going to put these all together because they're basically just the same thing.

1.Please remember PF's rules on slurs, as they do extend to trans people as well.
2. IOC already looked into this and...(and please note the date TRFjr)
"n a six-page document, the IOC outlined 10 principles, which it described as "grounded on the respect for internationally recognised human rights," that sports competitions should follow. It also said it will no longer require athletes to undergo hormone level modifications to compete."
...
"Tuesday's framework replaces guidelines the IOC released in 2015, which put a limit on athletes' testosterone levels that required some of them to undergo treatments the IOC now describes as "medically unnecessary." Before 2015, the IOC required athletes to undergo genital surgery."
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out...sues-new-guidelines-transgender-athl-rcna5775

 

That's entirely up to your company policy.

 

I have no idea why you're reminding me about slurs cuz I have slurred no one merely givin my opinion.

I will not refer to a man as a woman and there's no one who can make me.

My girlfriend is 100% woman, believe me there's a difference and it's evident.

 

Hey I'm not the one who referred to women as a piece of meat.

In any event it's a reminder really to everyone.

 

if you think believing in science that ones DNA makes you either female or male not someone's fantasy makes you a bigot the problem is with you not the science

 

I don't know any scientists who seriously think genetics only determine the characteristics of a person. This of course is coming from someone where everyone in her family save for a few are in the medical or biological field. I'm sorry if the lack of understanding in biology is what is limiting this conversation from going forward. To put it bluntly, genetics are not everything and they have serious limitations. If it was, then there would practically be a different gender for every species on Earth.

 

Not in my record book.

Just say no and refuse to recognize them as records and that will be the end of that.

 

The destruction of women's sports.

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And I repeat

What we say and quite correctly is that HE is not a woman HE is a man. Please do not insinuate I am slurring anyone by noting reality, that in itself could be considered a slur.

 

They certainly believe that your DNA determines if you are a male or a female of the species. Sorry if the lack of understanding of biology by you and your family have led you to believe otherwise.

 

hahahahahahaha.

So there are no 'male' birds then? We can have female birds but no male birds.

 

I’ll repeat what I said because it’s not a slur. Trans women are men. It doesn’t matter what a person arbitrarily believes they are, objective reality remains the same. Allowing men to participate in women’s sports is just putting women at a disadvantage.