Trump is an idiot

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Never said it wasn't hot.
    And they started raising them all the way back in 2015. When the 1st signs of heating up started.

    2015: GDP = 2.9%, Unemployment = 6%, Inflation = 0.7%
    Dec 17
    0.5% Growth stabilized.
    2016: GDP = 1.6%, Unemployment = 4.6%, Inflation = 2.1%
    Dec 15
    0.75%
    2017: GDP = 2.2%, Unemployment = 4.1%, Inflation = 2.1%
    Mar 16
    1.0% Fed was steady on its path of normalizing its benchmark rate.
    Jun 15 1.25%
    Dec 14 1.5%
    Fed Chair Jerome Powell (February 2018 - February 2022)
    2018

    Mar 22
    1.75% Fed projects steady growth.
    Jun 14 2.0%
    Sep 27 2.25%
    Dec 19 2.5%

    https://www.thebalance.com/fed-funds-rate-history-highs-lows-3306135
     
  2. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    There was only 1 reason. They said they'd do it.
    To hell with debt and deficits.
    None of the tax cuts are actually helping the economy.
     
  3. Josephwalker

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    Fake news with anonymous sourcres.
     
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    Thanks for showing how little the fed raised rates during Obama and how they went hog wild with trump.
     
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    Not so anonymous:

    Gary Cohn writing in an email: “It’s worse than you can imagine … Trump won’t read anything—not one-page memos, not the brief policy papers, nothing. He gets up halfway through meetings with world leaders because he is bored.”

    "Something will be missed," according to Leon Panetta, a former CIA director and secretary of defense who also worked as White House chief of staff for President Clinton.
    "If for some reason his instincts on what should be done are not backed up by the intelligence because he hasn't taken the time to read that intel, it increases the risk that he will make a mistake," Panetta told the Post.


    "Instead he prefers verbal briefings with maps, charts, pictures and videos, as well as 'killer graphics,'" as [CIA Director Mike] Pompeo put it.

     
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    Trump enemies are even less believable than anonymous sources.
     
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    Mike Pompeo is a Trump enemy?
     
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    Apparently so. Your friends don't talk about you like this but pompeo never said that anyway. More fake news.

    "Pompeo has said the president is briefed on current developments, as well as upcoming events — such as visits by foreign leaders — and longer-term strategic issues.

    “The president asks hard questions,” he said in public remarks last month. “He’s deeply engaged. We'll have a rambunctious back-and-forth, all aimed at making sure we’re delivering him the truth as best we understand it.”

    Trump’s admirers say he has a unique ability to cut through conventional foreign policy wisdom and ask questions that others have long taken for granted. “Why are we even in Somalia?” or “Why can’t I just pull out of Afghanistan?” he will ask, according to officials.

    The president asks “edge” questions, said one senior administration official, meaning that he pushes his staff to question long-held assumptions about U.S. interests in the world."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...396801049ef_story.html?utm_term=.7f38ca1c14e9
     
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    "That's our task, right? To deliver the material in a way that he can best understand the information we're trying to communicate," CIA Director Mike Pompeo told The Post, adding that Trump frequently stops briefings to ask questions and likes to look over graphics such as maps and charts.

    According to The Post, Trump receives his daily intelligence briefings over a glass of Diet Coke at about 10:30 a.m. While intelligence analysts present the information, Trump insists that top appointees such as Pompeo and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats be present.

    "I like bullets, or I like as little as possible," Trump told the news website Axios before his inauguration in January. "I don't need, you know, 200-page reports on something that can be handled on a page."

    Pompeo described the briefings as a "very oral, interactive discussion." He and Coats have had to rearrange their morning routines to brief Trump in person every day.

    But while Pompeo said that he, too, preferred to "get to the core of the issue quickly," Trump's laissez-faire attitude toward intelligence briefings has at times raised alarm. Earlier this month, after reports that Trump shared highly classified information about ISIS during a meeting with Russia's foreign minister and ambassador to the US, Trump said it was his "absolute right" to disclose such information.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...ings-short-and-full-of-killer-graphics-2017-5
     
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    No in public direct quotes just what a reporter says Pomeopo said. Fake news.
    As far as what Trump said everyone has their own way and Trump likes to get to the heart of the matter
     
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    Your post was on Monday.
    Today, right wingers are saying Trump is strengthening ISIS by withdrawing from Syria.
     
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    He inherited an ISIS that was being attacked and dismantled by us and our allies. Tell us what he did differently than his predecessor in this regard. I only see the passage of time and the eventual results of what was already going on when Individual-1 took office. I also see Individual-1 handing Iran, Russia and Assad exactly what they want.
     
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    Yep. Someone compared it to fighting a fire and reducing it to embers, then declaring the fire out and walking away. Same mistake made in Iraq that gave rise to ISIS in the first damned place.
     
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    Opinions differ on that. Trump ran on staying out io foreign eats as much as possible and his opinion is it's time to get out. Wish bush would have done that in iraq after we killed Saddam.
     
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    WASHINGTON — President Trump has let the military know that the buck stops with them, not him. The Pentagon, after eight years of chafing at what many generals viewed as micromanaging from the Obama White House, is so far embracing its new freedom.

    Officials say that much of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis’s plan to defeat the Islamic State, which Mr. Mattis delivered to the White House in February but has yet to make public, consists of proposals for speeding up decision-making to allow the military to move more quickly on raids, airstrikes, bombing missions and arming allies in Iraq, Syria and elsewhere. Commanders argue that loosening restrictions — as Mr. Trump has already done for American operations in much of Somalia and parts of Yemen — could lead to a faster defeat of Islamic State militants in not only the Middle East but also the Horn of Africa.
    During the Obama administration, the military had to follow standards set by the president in 2013 to carry out airstrikes or ground raids in countries like Somalia, where the United States was not officially at war. Those rules required that a target had to pose a threat to Americans and that there be near certainty that no civilian bystanders would die. Under the Trump administration’s new rules, some civilian deaths are now permitted in much of Somalia and parts of Yemen if regional American commanders deemed the military action necessary and proportionate.

    The Obama administration process frustrated many in the military.

    First there was the initial proposal from the Pentagon. From there it went to a policy coordinating committee, composed of lower-level officials from the Pentagon, State Department and White House, who reviewed the proposal’s every aspect. Defense officials likened the process to a subcommittee review of a bill on Capitol Hill.

    If the proposal cleared the policy committee, it then went to the National Security Council’s deputies committee, composed of middle-level White House, State Department and Pentagon staff members, who in turn decided if they would kick it up to their cabinet-level bosses, among them President Barack Obama’s national security adviser, Susan E. Rice, who often sent proposals back with multiple questions."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/us/politics/rules-of-engagement-military-force-mattis.html
     
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    Do you want to stay there forever? Permanent occupation?
     
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    It just goes to prove: whatever Putin wants, Putin gets. :)
     
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    We can all make our own decisions on that - but as a newcomer to the world of politics and international events, I guess I'd like to see him learning as much as he can rather than cutting to the bullet points.
     
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    The real idiots are all the Republicans who continue to support Trump. It is why the very word, "Republican" conjures pariah for Californians. Trump is the titanic with fools gladly going down with their 'dear leader'.
     
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    YW, that strong economy that obama started is really taking shape, isn't it.
     
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    Trump claims raising the interest rate by a quarter of one percent is the reason the Dow loses huge chunks as it has this month. That is just another lie. He knows his trade war with China and the looming 25% tariff on Chinese goods beginning Jan. ! is one the main culprits for the decline.

    Another bad day on Wall Street. The Dow was off another 464 points. NASDAQ and the S&P fared equally as bad.

    There were three reasons, two having to do with Trump, trade with China and Trump's threat to make good on his promise to shut down the government four days before Christmas. The third, oil is in free fall. The Dow closed below 23,000 for the first time since October 2017.

    In March I warned Trump's harsh tariffs would cause problems for our economy. Keep something in mind. The stock market is the canary in the coal mine for our economy.
     
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    The surrender in Syria by Trump is far worse than I thought.

    The only adult left in the room was the secretary of defense, James Mattis. He resigned today on the heels of Trump's plans to withdraw troops from Syria, citing irreconcilable policy differences in a move that took Washington by surprise. All the adults are now gone, Mattis, Kelly, McMasters, Tillerson, McGahn, and Haley. Robots have taken their place, sycophants who do not dare say anything that can be construed as an opposing point of view.

    It only gets worse. Our alliance in Syria consisted of Kurdish and Arab militias known as the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). Washington gained indirect control of half of Syria's strategic resources - including many oil fields and dams, and much of its most fertile agricultural land - and leverage in discussions with Mr Assad and his allies Russia and Iran on the country's future.

    The Kurdish forces did the actual fighting. U.S. merely provided training, guidance, and air support.

    Now Trump is turning his back on the Kurds. This is unbelievable.

    Ankara says the Kurdish forces are an extension of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), which is banned in Turkey and has fought for Kurdish autonomy there since 1984, and considers it a terrorist organization. Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan declared last week that the Turkish military was gearing up for a ground incursion into SDF-controlled territory east of the River Euphrates. Erdogan wanted the American forces out of the way.

    The Pentagon responded by warning that such unilateral action would be "unacceptable".

    But on Monday Erdogan said he had discussed his plan with Trump by telephone and that he had given a "positive response."

    On Wednesday Trump decided to withdraw all U.S. forces from Syria.

    Ignoring Matiss's advice, along with everyone else on his national security team and in opposition to many prominent members of his own party -- only two support his decision -- Trump capitulated to Erdogan. My God, that is embarrassing.

    One might ask, who is happy with Trump's decision to surrender to the terrorist organization and the Syrian government. The answer is ISIS, Assad, Putin, Ayatollah Khomeini, and Erdogan. The latter is now free to attack our fighting allies, the Kurds.
     
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    Crazy Donnie is well on his way to win the award for the fifth year in a row.
    Donald Trump wins ‘Golden Idiot’ award fourth year in a row

    Donald Trump is famously thin-skinned, prone to attack both reporters and entire networks, like CNN, over what he sees as unfair coverage of his administration.

    That hasn’t stopped a German satire program from naming Trump the ‘golden idiot’ for the fourth year in a row.

    Germany’s Heute-Show, presented by comedian and journalist Oliver Welke on the ZDF network, has bequeathed the odd honor on the President of the United States once again this year.
     
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    All of Washington was in chaos today. Nobody seemed to know what to do.

    Last week Trump was "proud" to shut down the government over his border wall. Yesterday he changed his mind and the Senate under McConnell's leadership passed a C.R., thinking Trump would sign it. This morning Trump changed his mind again. He listened to the right wing minority on Fox, radio, Twitter, and the Freedom Caucus and decided he would shut the government down over his wall.

    McConnell and leading Republicans in the Senate have egg all over their faces, betrayed by their unpredictable President who seems governed by whims.

    So now the House, which was ready to okay the Senate bill, passed a stopgap measure to fund the government that includes $5 billion for a border wall sought by Trump. The bill is expected to be rejected in the Senate, and does little to prevent a shutdown on Saturday. Oh, most Senate members have gone home for Christmas. They thought their work was done.

    What is this? The keystone cops.

    Will Trump change his mind tomorrow? No one knows.

    He is leaving tomorrow. He plans on spending Christmas at Mar-a-Lago.
     
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    Talk about taking the praise for stuff he had little to no part in. Its not like changing a government policy means you somehow get an immediate effect. No, policy effects can usually not be seen immediately, results can usually only be seen probably a year out at minimum in most cases, the economy is a fickle thing. Let's talk again about that middle class tax hike 10 years from now and the budget deficit that was widened with his "tax cuts". You speak as if he personally went out and helped export petrol. Lol. And I didn't like Obama either. He did some stuff but as far as his claims, so far Trump seems to be on par, maybe less since some of the effects from Obama's presidency are starting to trickle in.
     
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