Trump says US will ‘destroy’ Iranian gunboats that harass American ships

Unlike the empty threats I am alluding to, the US had not threatened to kill general Soleimani when he was on a visit to Iraq, with the Iraqi premier having even discussed the mission with Trump before hand as one involving efforts by the Iraqis to act to mediate an end to the fighting in Yemen. But Trump had made specific threats repeatedly of what would happen if Iran did countless things Iran did anyway. If you really insist, I will dig up those specific threats, what Iran did in response, and anyone with a modicum of honesty, would realize the truth in what I said.

 

You're playing semantics. The pathetic iranian regime pushed the envelope, and Trump killed their henchman. Soon, some Iranian boats will start to sink

 

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/08/27/priority-first-theory-evolution-600-years-older-darwin/

 

The 'semantics' is the difference between a cowardly attack and one that involves someone carrying out on actual threats which have been made.

In the meantime, Trump has been fuming and making threats against Iranian speedboats from even before he was elected president. During this time, we have had plenty of such incidents, some not publicized by the US, others publicized. The fact that the latest one was publicized, and Trump has chosen to make specific threats about it again, does raise the question whether he is setting himself up to eat more crow or whether he is thinking its time for him to roll the dice? But the real thing that irked wasn't the speedboat incident, which he has learned to live with, but the launch of a military satellite into space by Iran's revolutionary guards.

 

How is it a cowardly attack? He was plotting to kill Americans in cowardly attacks (and had plotted in the past) and got a nice Freedom Seed injected into his body

 

Yo can spin things as you wish and make up facts as you go along. On that particular visit, General Soleimani was in Iraq at the invitation of the Iraqi government (which had even coordinated the issue with the US) for the Iraqis to explore ways to mediate an end to the conflict in Yemen. Otherwise, if General Soleimani was visiting Iraq to 'plot to kill American troops' (something which the Trump administration had zero evidence to back up and has basically dropped as a line of justification for the assassination), he wouldn't make an announced trip and dispense of the usual precautions taken in those circumstances.

 

You keep saying this. Do you have any evidence for it? Or is it just your best guess at the real motivation behind the escalation?

 

I say this because:
1- the speedboat 'incident' didn't happen today, but a few days ago. Trump usually goes on 'twitter' to rant when something has happened, not several days later.
2- the speedboat 'incident' wasn't anything that hasn't happened many times before, including during Trump's watch.
3- the launch of a military satellite by the revolutionary guards happened today.
4- last year, Trump had taken pride in the failed launch of a civilian satellite by Iran's space agency, going on twitter immediately to post this:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1167493371973255170/photo/1

 

He never announced himself because he knew he was going to be killed. Iran is the most cowardly country in the world. They use proxies to fight their battles.

The US sent a nice little message to the boys in the hats in Iran

 

Don't expect that satellite to be in orbit long if Iran wants to play stupid games.

 

More stupid bluster and theater from Israel's puppet in the white house.

US naval vessels have always had the authority to defend themselves. They don't need Trump's permission to take defensive action.

Trump is just needlessly escalating tensions on behalf of Israel and Saudi Arabia, who want us to fight their wars for them.

Sadly, many Americans are dumb enough to spend our blood and treasure fighting wars for other countries.

 

Funny how Iran is "harassing" us even though we're thousands of miles from our own country, patrolling Iranian shores and buzzing Iranian airspace, with thousands of troops amassed in countries neighboring Iran...

 

The US has surrounded Iran with thousands of troops, dozens of military installations, and numerous weapons of war, yet we're supposed to believe Iran is the aggressor. Iran, a country that spends almost fifty times less on its military than the US does, is the big, scary bully...

Meanwhile, the US has aggressively invaded and destroyed and sanctioned country after country after country.

Why are my fellow Americans so oblivious to their own hypocrisy and bad behavior? When is the last time you people looked in a mirror?

 

Why is the US still in Iraq when Trump promised to leave?

Why was the US in Iraq in the first place?

When are Americans going to start holding their own corrupt government responsible for all the lies it's told and all the damage it's done?

 

I don't think Iranian proxies launched the barrage of missiles against the Al Asad air base, or it was Iranian proxies which shot down the US drone, or it was Iranian proxies which seized the British tanker, or it was Iranian proxies which captured those marines which had ventured into Iranian waters with their boats. Nor do I think Iranian proxies are involved in the recurring incidents between US naval vessels and Iranian speedboats in the Persian Gulf.

I will agree only to this: so far, Iran hasn't been "brave enough" to do what you see below against an American official visiting a foreign country and being driven from an airport to some meeting. I assume it is because: (a) Iran has too much on its plate lately and is reserving this for later; or (b) is deterred because it feels this would unleash war between the two sides.

 

It’s dangerous to underestimate Trump, I’d say ask your General Soleimani, but you can’t.

 

I appreciate you sharing your beliefs. Mouthpieces from the Iranian regime seem to share your same views. Do you think the Iranian government will send more boats to interrupt NATO naval exercises and do you believe they will be dealt with like the General?

 

This is South Africa's present... keep voting Democrat you'll share their fate

 

The conflict with Iran started decades ago, the war officially kicked off when Soleimani died

 

Iran will be doing what it has been doing before. These kind of incidents between US vessels and Iranian speedboats happen frequently, but they aren't a daily occurrence. Unless the US wants to push the envelope, my expectation is that the next time we hear about something like this will be a few months from now, by which time Trump's latest tweet will have been forgotten. However, before then, we might see other incidents, any of which could blow up and start a war. A war that the US military leadership (unlike an "ArmySoldier" like you) isn't keen on -- and which Iran obviously doesn't want either (but which Iran won't be capitulating to avoid either).

 

It is equally dangerous to underestimate Iran and many people who could vouch for it if they were alive. To be sure, there are also quite a few American military officers and soldiers still living, which have some idea what I am referring to, including (but by no means limited to) more than 100 who are suffering from TBI after Iran's missile strikes against the Al Asad air base.

 

I don't know about the situation in South Africa, but voting Democrat definitely won't get us another Trump/Camacho.

 

Voting Democrat will get you nationalised healthcare, corruption, mismanagement by affirmative action, it will get you open borders and you will end up with..

 

And here you worry about the Democrats. Trump reversed great progress toward normalizing relations and ending the hostilities, and continues to poke and prod at them.

 

Nationalized healthcare is the way to go, hands down. I can only hope that voting Democrat will get us there (it hasn't so far). Corruption is universal but also pretty minor on the whole in this country. Affirmative action is misunderstood and not that big a deal, either. It will not get us open borders (this has never happened and has never been a part of Democratic policy).