Tump makes the worst act of his Presidency

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nobel Peace Prize.

    LOLOL!!!!
     
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    How much of Trump's decision was about stopping oil prices from falling?
    Will oil from Iran lower the price enough to hurt his buddies in the industry?
     
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    The nation that gave us 18 of the 19 hijackers on 9-11 is one of our closest allies?

    As for Israel... Bibi has wanted us in a war with Iran since he was in the cradle. He's a nut. Which is Trump's kind of people.



    Yes. It was right below the story about a child prostitution ring in a Pizzeria run by Hillary Clinton.

    "Made public" you say? We have Bibi's claims that they prove what he wants them to prove. Nobody has seen such proof, though.

    Smuggle an A-Bomb? Through Mexico or Canada, no less! And then transporting it to... DC? This is idiotic at sooo many levels. You're watching way too much TV.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    And, other than him running on that, he has not given any reason whatsoever for doing it.

    He also run on the wall that Mexico would pay for, and on jailing Hillary, and on "draining the swamp".... and so many things he has absolutely no intention to do. Of all the ones that he has done so far, this is the one that will take the President who has to fix this mess the most effort, as it's the one in which the consequences will last the longest and the hardest to reverse.
     
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    As I showed, not even near.,,,

    I know what I say. I don't make it up as I go.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need to catch up.

    They stole a whole cache of documents from Iran explaining their nuclear program in detail.

    They haven't stopped it whatsoever....what you should be asking is why your media isn't covering this bombshell of a story.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wrong! The deal existed. And was bringing about all the results that it was designed to deliver. Obama assumed that any future President who could withdraw from the deal would evaluate it based on the results. He did not foresee that we would have an irresponsible and incompetent dope like this one in the White House.
     
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    Trump was clear about this before he was even elected.

    Perhaps if you were that concerned you should have rallied your side to go out and vote.

    Kind of late to act surprised about this, you had plenty of forewarning.
     
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    Did you say, "credibility"?

    The US did not enter into the JCPOA. Rather, then-President Obama--who was smart enough to know that he could not possibly get the deal through Congress--entered into the agreement by presidential fiat.

    Perhaps that is good enough for some people. (Well, unless someone who is not of a leftist persuasion were to do the same thing.)

    But most others view the Congress--both chambers--as a co-equal branch of government; and one that was simply sidestepped by Barack Obama.

    Live by the executive order, then die by the executive order...
     
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    Actually... no. You need to catch up. You see, the "they", according to Bibi, is supposed to be some secret Israeli version of James Bond who supposedly brought out tons of papers from Teheran. And Bibi tells us we are to believe that they show Teheran is not complying. But nobody has seen this "proof" other than Bibi. Who has been wanting us to go to war with Iran since he took over Israel. And given that he manipulated Trump into believing this, he could just as easily manipulate him into going to war. That's the problem of having a President that is so easy to manipulate with flattery.
     
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    Do you truly believe that they were not doing so anyway, on the sly?
     
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    There is a logical fallacy known as the argument from motives.

    If you are not familiar with it, you might want to look it up...
     
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    Trump was against this deal before Obama even made it.

    But nice try.

    He wasn't manipulated into anything, believe it or not, some people can actually have their own opinions on things.

    Shocking to think about isn't it?

    Perhaps if you quit getting all your news from anti-Semitic people you might look at this rationally.

    Its ok not to hate Jews.
     
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    there is ZERO evidence that Iran continued enriching uranium after the nuke deal came into effect.

    in fact Trump recertified the deal several times, attesting to the fact that Iran was complying with the deal and had CEASED uranium enrichment.
     
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    Wait, didn't you guys tell us that Iran never had any intention of making nukes?

    Now they did but they halted their program?

    Which is it?
     
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    That's not a treaty. You can tell by how it was never ratified by the senate
     
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    So what did these documents say? BTW the media isn't reporting it because it is fake. Perhaps you could explain how 100's of files can be taken out of a guarded building without anyone noticing. The biggest joke was that all those files looked brand new even though some were supposed to be 40 years old and stored in a disused building and the files were all the same type. Some people are so gullible
     
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    Where is your proof that they are fake.

    That they looked brand new?

    Hahahaha
     
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    Iran was probably developing nukes.

    that was all put on hold, thanks to the nuclear deal.

    now they will start enriching uranium again. Thanks to Trump.
     
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    I vote for Chicago. Take care of that gang problem once and for all.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    plus u would get to kill millions of black people, right?
     
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    Why, they still have the deal with like six other major nations, why would they just go back on it?

    Are you saying that only the US matters in world affairs, all other countries are irrelevant?

    If that's the case then why do we bother with things like the UN anyways if it all relies on us?

    Hmmmmmm?
     
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    the USA pulling out of the deal puts a major dent in their oil and other business revenue.

    they may decide its no longer worth it if USA sanctions start again
     
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    What evidence do you have to make such a preposterous claim?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    um......what happens if u nuke Chicago?
     

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