Views on Elizabeth Warren and why?

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  1. goober

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    You don't like very much do you...
     
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    22$ is rather high, but in all honesty, most liberals are arguing for a 15$ one. We are taking plenty of baby steps on the issue, with even Mitt Romneys own estimate on minimum wage based on inflation runs closer to 15$ than 10.10$.
     
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    Elizabeth Warren pisses off the the Wall Street elite and the corporate oligarchy that have benefited greatly from the nation's redistribution of wealth that has encreasingly concentrated it in their pockets in recent years, as well as the nitwit pantywaists who grovel before them, of course.

    Her impressive record got her elected to the Senate:

    he did groundbreaking research while teaching at the University of Texas at Austin School of Law on how the nation’s bankruptcy code was affecting average families.

    Warren and two colleagues studied court records to determine who was filing for bankruptcy and why. They found that single catastrophic events -- such as medical problems or unemployment -- rather than dereliction often caused working-class families to renege on debt.

    This work put Warren at the cutting edge of a new school of legal thought that emphasized real impacts on people’s lives rather than mere theory. It also led to her first book, “As We Forgive Our Debtors,” which won the American Bar Association’s Silver Gavel Award after it was published in 1989.

    Warren went on to write bankruptcy- related articles for The Yale Law Journal in 1992, and Michigan Law Review in 1993. She didn’t write another book until 2000, five years after she started working at Harvard and 11 years after her first book.

    After Warren began teaching at Harvard, she served on a commission that helped overhaul the federal bankruptcy laws in 1997. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) also appointed her in 2008 to chair a Congressional panel that oversaw the bank bailouts.



    She's a very bright lady whose democratic values get some folks in a snit. If they need to lie about her advocating a $22 minimum wage or kvetch that her Oklahoma heritage is not as resplendent with as many native American forebears as she had thought or hoped, it's probably because they cannot challenge her academic achievements.

    When Scott Brown had fallen behind her in the polls and resorted to carping about her lineage, she disposed of him with one pithy line: “Scott Brown can continue attacking my family, but I'm going to keep fighting for yours.”

    It rang true; it worked; it got some folks in a tizzy.
     
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    Yes she is. But the dishonest part is like many others she does not address corporate person hood that is entangled in the topic. Yet she is heavily funded by moveon.org A lie by omission is still a lie.

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    And I differ in this opinion- she is completely wrong about it- as in there should be none. Again, heavily funded by elitist colleges.


    She is a bright person for sure (which is how I know that point #1 is a lie by omission). The minimum wage angle is not a moronic view, just a purely populist political move...again dishonest because the repercussions are not honestly discussed. That makes this again a lie by omission.

    ...and then there is her "fauxcahontis" thing (or however her Republican adversaries put it), which is a pure lie.

    So like I said- she is the perfect politicians. Definately bright (brighter than Barry and Dubya) and a very good liar.
     
  5. Sanskrit

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    Never mind
     
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    Her impressive intellect, economic acumen, and determination to champion the cause of the average American that disposed the best-educated state in the nation to elect her has some folks, especially the corporate, banking, and Wall Street toadies in a snit.
     
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    Apply for Harvard under AA - let us know how it goes.
     
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    I had tried to edit out that last post because "moron" is too strong and hyperbolic for even me, but whatever.

    Best educated? It's been a long, long time since there were any brahmins in Boston, Edward Kennedy's tenure demonstrates exactly how "well educated" voters in Mass were and are, and speaking of Mass, they can't even pull off a black one these days in Cambridge it appears without tripping all over themselves. No ballz.

    You love to trot out that "best educated" stat despite that all it means is a high concentration of teachers, bureaucrats and other public sector employees who get an instant pay bump from sitting through a M.A. at a community college in education, "business," digiridoo or whatever. Highest consumption of diploma mill products? Maybe. Most educated though? not on your life. In any area, the "most educated" are those with the highest % of private sector knowledge and experience gained over decades in the voluntary, not fiat, markets.

    Claiming Warren has "economic acumen" due to her forays into the legal kindergartens of personal bankruptcy and consumer credit law is like claiming the corner real estate closing lawyer is Donald Trump... well except for the real estate lawyer, unlike Warren, has some measure of valuable private sector experience.

    I'd love to have Warren across the table on pretty much any sophisticated legal deal...not that she's ever done one. Mmmmmm, good eats.
     
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    Elizabeth Warren's Medical Bankruptcy Study Gets Demolished

    Considering Elizabeth Warren, the Scholar

    WARREN ACCUSED OF 'REPEATED INSTANCES OF SCIENTIFIC MISCONDUCT' BEFORE HARVARD HIRE

    Politifact: Medical bankruptcy study not so clear-cut
     
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    Thanks for those links, didn't really need them though, all one needs to spot Warren for a hoax instantly is any legal, even paralegal experience. We didn't have an internet when canards like Warren were being played on the rest of the country. Thank goodness for the net. Warren rode her husband's, double dose AA, and leftist meme coattails to academic positioning during the 80s-90s heyday of discriminatory hiring favoring women with no meaningful private sector experience whatsoever. Typical leftist, little style, no substance, hot air "yes we can!" leftist demagoguery with nothing backing, so it's no wonder the "cog-no-senski" in Massachusetts elected her. Oh and of course we'll never hear -anyone- fessing up to the rain-dance part of the Warren career boostage, how stupid and dishonest does that make the academics responsible for those quota fills look? After all there are still lots of daddies who write lots of tuition checks in this country.
     
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    I guess your father hasn't had "the talk" with you yet.
     
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    She didn't CHARGE $350K. Harvard PAID $350K. I can appreciate people who stick it to Harvard.
     
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    Time to revive the Elizabeth Warren thread!! We need this woman! http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/0...r-for-opposing-contraception-for-women-video/ :clapping::clapping::clapping:

     
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    She clearly has more integrity than most of the GOP leadership, and far more than the more prominent tea partiers (which doesn't take much).

    She didn't lie about being a Native American. She met the standard Harvard set.

    AGW is real, and just about everyone outside the right wing feedback loop knows it.

    Funny how you completely ignored her comments and her work on financial reform.

    But, I've never seen right wingers care much about these issues. On the contary, most right wingers support Wall Street's positions and their candidates.
     
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    At least you don't completely buy the right wing talking points on her.

    The fauxcohontas thing is BS. She qualified. That's all there is to it.

    The minimum wage thing may be populist, but it has needed to be raised for quite a long time now. The right wing argument that it will costs jobs has been advanced every time this debate occurs. And it never pans out.

    Who did you expect her supporters to be? Goldman Sachs? Exxon Mobil?

    And what does being supported by MoveOn have to do with anything she may or may not have said about corporate personhood, a concept cherished by the current Supreme Court.
     
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    Ms Warren is a liar... which makes her an ideal Democrat. Libs do love being lied to...
     
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    This is fairly typical of the right wing comments about Warren.

    Name calling and generalizations.

    No discussion at all about her work, her positions, or her accomplishments.

    No substance at all.
     
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    It wasn't that long ago I heard people saying, "Personally, I live Obama from what little I know about him. I agree with him on most, if not all, of what he says about the issues."

    So, you didn't learn a damned thing. What little we know about Sen. Warren indicates she's quite comfortable lying to people. Not that the first time I saw a picture I didn't say, "She's a Native American. I sure hope she gets her Affirmative Action points."

    The woman is a liar and a fraud and, like Obama, will say whatever she needs to say to get what she wants. You know, like, "I'm an Indian."
     
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    Why not post her agenda and political platform to discuss?
     
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    Sure why not
     
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    It would be nice if the OP had included it from inception.
     
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    Elizabeth Warren is probably the only person in Congress with courage to stand up to the powerful banking and securities lobbies. What needs doing is to get back regulatory control over bank trading on financial markets; but it will take some major arm-twisting to put it into effect. In this, what President Obama didn't do (and what he should have done) was to put every member bank into federal receivership until Congress enacted effective remedial legislation eliminating proprietary trading by bank entities, both directly and indirectly through their parent holding companies. There would be no more gambling on the taxpayer's account, and no more bonuses. There cannot be unregulated banking. It is up to Congress to act. The question is whether Congress has the political will to stand up to the banking lobby as Senator Warren is doing. Without a regulated banking system, there can be no security for commerce, and, ultimately, financial collapse and economic chaos.
     
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    I believe we simply need better laws. Micromanaging our markets, like micromanaging our Tax codes, can be addictive to some. We have a Commerce Clause.

    It may not be so much, unregulated banking, but "unfunded mandates" that banks can make money on funding via public policy choices.
     
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    Really?

    Document that claim.
     
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