Vintage Bernie footage shows now-presidential candidate praising breadlines, communist nations

LMAO...We got decades of trump discriminating against minorities in his apartment buildings, palling around with the mafia, assaulting women, cheating workers and contractors, money laundering for putin's oligarchs and inciting his worshippers to violence but that don't bother you none, eh?
G'wan, tell us another one.

 

Lol...Right about the time that trump became putin's lapdog.

 

In the alternate reality that is the TDS fried mind that people are suffering with.

you might as well just say he's the incarnation of Genghis Khan or Adolf Hitler or Lucifer himself.

The Russia conspiracy was just a trick to get you to watch news so CNN and NBC could sell more ad space.

 

Real socialists--those who collectivize production--typically yes. Redistributionists who want to play Robin Hood while leaving the capitalist system intact generally allow themselves to be voted out of office. Sweden is an example.

 

Hitler, and Mussolini before him, drew support from the ownership class to lead the fight against collectivists. Your unwillingness to distinguish between collectivists and anti-collectivists makes you vulnerable to appeals from fascists.

 

Indeed. I have this mental imagine of lazy, useless 11-year-olds lolling about school classrooms learning math, science, and computer programming on taxpayers' dollars.

 

Mussolini was the leader of Italy who was before Adolf Hitler was Hindenburg.

And a lot of people don't really care to learn what was really happening in Germany probably because they would have to admit that it was de facto socialism. Well yes the Nazi party kept people that ran businesses as figureheads but they told them exactly what to build how much to build it what they could charge for it and who they could sell it to so these people really didn't own the business the Nazi empire did so the people control the means of production, IE the government.

 

Sanders never had a steady job. He went from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm.
As for his, in your words, screwy ideas, I love the guy. In the unlikely chance Bernie Freeshit Sanders does become the Democrat party's candidate, he would ensure a second term for Trump. Run, Bern, run and bring your Socialism right along with you.

BTW, never use Wikipedia as a source for anything serious. It can be edited and rewritten by anyone to suit their meme.

 

Both got to power through elections, rigged in Maduro's case, but were (and are) profoundly anti-democratic. There's absolutely no way you can sustain your position with the facts.

 

Oh okay so if we had a supreme dictator running for the Supreme dictator office it be one hundred percent on the level there wouldn't be any rigging going on there at all.

And Hitler wasn't elected I thought he was I guess the history books are read we're just wrong. You should go in the writing history because they got it all wrong when they're describing the Nazi regime and how the nation worked. It was very much like a socialism but you know you say it's not so...

 

Mussolini came to power in Italy while Hitler was still a street thug in Germany.

How can you claim Hitler was a socialist when he used support from industrialists to reach power and then never collectivized production?

Simply untrue about the output of the German economy until Germany went on a full war footing after Hitler put Albert Speer in charge in 1943.

 

but he was in Italy it just sounded like you were talking about him being the leader of Germany before Hitler it was weird.

collectivizing production is the same thing as government taking over. The collectives in a socialist nation is the government or the people it's the same thing.

so they became socialist when they went to war?

 

What on earth are you talking about? Dictators often hold rigged elections.

Dictatorships throughout the twentieth century—including Mussolini’s Italy, the Third Reich, the Soviet Union, Poland, and East Germany—held elections. But were they more than rituals of participation without the slightest effect on the distribution of power? Why did political regimes radically opposed to liberal democracy feel the need to imitate their enemies? Offering significant insights into absolutist state governance, Voting for Hitler and Stalin thoroughly investigates the remarkable, paradoxical phenomenon of dictatorial elections, revealing the many ways they transcended mere propaganda.​

https://www.press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/V/bo13135999.html

 

Hitler lost the main election he ran in, in 1932 to von Hindenburg. He was the runner up in a Parliamentary election and the Nazis ended up with more seats than anyone else, though not the majority. A group of businessmen then decided they should appoint him Chancellor, because "we can handle this Hitler fellow"

 

let's think of all the socialist regimes there was Lenin there was Stalin there was Adolf Hitler there was Mao Zedong there was Pol pot Kim jong-il Cesar Chavez Fidel Castro. What did they all have in common? Socialist dictators. And that's not even all of them. in order to have a socialism you have to have a dictator. That's how it works.

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I understood that Hindenburg himself appointed Adolf Hitler as Chancellor. But the government was Democratic.

Democracy is a dictatorship. It is tyranny through majority rule.

 

So both of you condone tax dodging rather than people pay their fair share and don't see the irony of the statements.

 

No, the clip doesn't show that he's well off. It also doesn't show he's bald now, both things being irrelevant. What is the evidence he would "fleece" America? You made the claim, now back it up.

 

Successful leaders must first get economics correct. If they pass that bar, then we need to check out their politics to see if they're really qualified.

Bernie, AOC, and 90% of the Democratic Party can't get past the economics test, so their politics don't matter.

 

Just as I thought.

 

A 6-second soundbite. That’s all the kibbles FOX usually dares give its audience—never enough to get a full picture.

It’s FOX; they’re mainstream. That’s fake enough for me.

I think, though, a lot of their viewers would prefer the rich get bread while the poor get nothing just to keep up the appearance of wealth.

 

Collectivizing production is not really the same thing as telling businesses what they must produce during a national emergency represented by a major war. Except for the Soviet Union, the major players in WW2 went back to their prewar capitalist business structure.

Study the history of Mercedes-Benz in Germany and Toyota in Japan. These large companies weren't taken over by the government.

 

Americans are so ignorant, especially the voters, that Princeton can evidence no one gets represented in DC except special interests and the elites, using congressional record, spanning two decades, and yet they still ignorantly believe their politicians represent them and we have a republic. Pardon me while I laugh my arse off.

You got greater worries than some old socialist, and yet most of us are too stupid to even notice. Reality is a bi*ch. And surreal.

 

well it is government controlling the means of production which is a fundamental part of socialism but I guess when you're at work it's not. Seems kind of strange to me but that's okay.

well Nazi Germany of course after regime change.

well I would consider the government telling you what you can produce how much of it you can produce who you can sell it for and how much you can sell it for would be the government taking it over but I mean if you don't get to make any choices you clearly on the business.

kind of like how I don't get to make any choices about my neighbor's car but I own that right.

 

What about the Clintons and also Obama.

Follow the Clinton's money trail.

For eight years Obama always gave Putin what he wanted.