Was Jesus a rapist?

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  1. Please Let Me Vote

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    Well, there is a thread started by someone asking is Mohammed a rapist, fair is fair, right?

    Now I admit my thread is less than genuine since there is little to no proof Jesus ever existed in the first place and absolutely no evidence whatsoever he is the son of any god (there is no god guys, sorry)

    but was he a rapist?

    i have no link so is this is wrong forum? sorry

    http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm

    well, there is this
     
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    -No wife, ever.
    -No "girlfriend", ever.
    -All 12 of his best friends were GUYS...all 12...not gals.
    -Never publicly expressed his sexual preference.
    -Never spoke against homosexuality (allegedly), even though it was so bad it was punishable by death in those days.---
    -Was non-aggressive.
    -We don't really know what he was doing (or WHO he was doing) from age 13 - 29...certainly the later time of that is potentially ones most sexually active years.

    ....SO THERE'S A FAIR CHANCE THAT JESUS WAS LIKELY *GAY*. In which case Christians could kill him (the Bible says to do that, and they haven't removed that over the many centuries).

    BTW. Mohammad did, in the Islamic texts, approve of his troops raping captives (would we accept GW Bush doing the same - we should hold "prophets" to higher standards than regular guys - by the way), but I'm not aware of Jesus ever saying anything like that, but who knows?....actually there IS one person who exactly knows, and he "listens to our prayers every night" and "helps Tim Tebow win games", so HE could tell us the real answer as he's all-powerful (rolls eyes)! But he either doesn't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about us, or doesn't exist, so either way he's not worth worshipping.
     
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    Rape is haram in Islam
    Sexual relations are only allowed between a married couple in Islam.

    The Quran is very clear about that.

    Just because someone wrote something down 200 years AFTER the prophet died does not make it in any way Islamic or true.
     
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    ooh you person, similarly u don't have proof about Mohammad S.A.W. to say some thing wrong about that.
    why u jealous Muslims? we don't want to insulting u so y u insulting us with false proof? u can't get ever and true evidence about us... is ths ur religion to insult other?
    bible was edited by many writers... How stupid is that....
    u should check ur self first who u r?
     
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    The Quran is not clear on anythng. Incidentally, can a muslim marry a hooker for an hour to satisfy your precious Quran's ban on extramarital sex?
     
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    This is what happens when a non-Christian tries to explain Jesus:

    There were plenty of women following Him around. Several Mary's, a Martha, probably more that were unnamed in the scriptures.

    He did say marriage was between a man and a woman.

    Overturned a few tables by the Temple.

    ...the Christians could have killed Jesus. Uh-huh.

    Yeah, this post is just off the charts.
     
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    Wait ... are you admitting that this is a flame-bait thread?
     
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    I'm just speculating here (like all of those who believe in any religion or other fairytales) but I would guess that Jesus was busy banging the dickens out of the best looking Jewish girls in the area between the ages of 13-29...He was like a rock star in his magnitude back in the day who could get any broad he wanted. My theory is that the prudish dickheads who put together the New Testament buried the adventures of his teen years and his twenties for political reasons....Cheers
     
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    There's no evidence of that. That's nothing but flamebait. And just because the bible doesn't mention that Jesus did or said something doesn't mean that he never did it. I don't recall anywhere in the bible where it chronicles Jesus taking a dump, either. I guess he never did that, huh?

    "Christians" didn't exist until Jesus was crucified, so this makes no sense. Also, the bible specifically says not to change it at all, so of course they're not going to "remove that over the centuries".

    Well, if you were badass enough to create the universe, you probably wouldn't care about people, either. I mean, how much do YOU care about the well being of a test tube of bacteria? A universal Creator would be further above us than we are above those bacteria. I'd say that was worship-worthy, even if It didn't stoop to our level.
     
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    "Was Jesus a rapist?"

    I do not think Jesus was a rapist.... from the stories it seems Mary Magdalene may of been his mate, but some disagree with that

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    No, but the real question is did he have fun ?
    No doubt he did not have fun as much a Muhammad with his 9 years old girl bride.

    But the real question is: how does modern grown up people don't see it is an abomination to have sex with a 9 years old ?
     
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    I suppose Gods that would send Children to hell for not believing, could do almost anything
     
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    Well, the Infancy Gospels (apocryphal) have conveniently been left out of the Bible. Strange that many of those who attack Islamic beliefs quote passages that are not in the Qu'ran yet will only quote passages from the Bible.
     
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    Honestly, I really don't think the names and dates in ancient religious texts should be taken seriously. That is unless you believe men lived 1,000 years. Remember too, these things were written by men who thought differently. I'm not going to study the passage, but the youth of the bride may have been a literary device to symbolized beauty and innocence. It would be something like writing "And as he aged, hummingbirds came to his hand." Anyway, it doesn't matter where Mo's dick was. The question is: Does Islam provide hope to people so they can sustain their daily lives. And apparently it does, considering how misereable most of them are in terms of physical comforts.
     
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    'Modern'; exactly. I suppose you are aware that child marriage was both expected and perfectly acceptable according to the societal norms and traditions of the time, both in the east and the west? In Christian mediaeval England, for example, a girl was expected to be married at 12 years of age. http://www.dfwx.com/medieval_cult.html#involve children
    You cannot project what you find societally and morally abhorent in today's world, onto that which was entirely normal a thousand years ago. To do so is both ignorant and stupid.
     
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    I have no doubt Muhammad was a great man, maybe even the greatest man of his time and I would not argue with someone who claim such claims.
    However I do have a problem with people who revere the way he acted and claim this is the right way to act today.
    Those pedophile lunatics should be condemned and I will fight them when ever I find them.
     
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    We know so little about him, that he could have done just about anything in those years. The writers/editors of the Bible likely left out the bad stuff, because it didn't fit their fairy tale of him being the son of the invisible man in the sky and all. That's likely the REASON why we know so little about that all-important period in his life. If, just say, he was a male prostitute, would they have left that in? OF COURSE NOT! So we'll never know, now will we? But there is one person, who's allegedly listening to us this very second who could clear it all up for us, but he's either too uncaring about us, or doesn't exist....in either case he's not worth worshipping. Jesus himself could have told the people that we got the other stuff about Jesus from about what he was doing during those years, but he didn't or we'd know about those years....unless he had something to hide. Sex addict? Heroin user? Pimp? If he was helping the sick etc. during that time then he'd have told us that, being as self-promoting as he was, but he didn't, so he's likely trying to HIDE something. It's like if a guy you're dating refuses to tell you what he was doing for half his life, you'd get highly suspicious, wouldn't you? Obviously. So we should be just, it not more (because he claims to be a prophet), highly suspicious of this guy's credibility. Clearly.
     
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    I've never met a Muslim who will condemn Mohammad's pedophilia (even when asked it in a hypothetical fashion - "if, repeat if, he did that..."), so you're going to need to fight 1.5 billion people.

    Seriously, ask Muslims that, in person or on a forum, and see for yourself. Or search "Aisha" on this forum.
    Muslms are great people, however, like other religious people, their FEAR of their offending their "prophet" (HELL!!!!!) makes them do insane things. "God" is clearly harmful to the world.
     
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    Watch that film, and see (it's true stuff, or Muslims would be challenging its truthfullness instead of complaining about being so "offended") that Mohammad was not a great man. He was a torturer (felony to civilized people), mass-murderer (felony), killer of critics (felony), had 11 wives (felony), liar (can be a felony), mysogenist (can be a felony - if deny women equal employment for example - and he said women could not be judges), pedophile (felony), caravan robber (felony), etc.
    If nothing in that film was true, such as it claiming that Mohammad was, say, actually bigfoot in disguise, and he got his divine inspiration from the Lochness Monster, then no one would obviously take it seriously and riot and kill over it. But they KNOW it's one of the biggest threats to Mohammad in the last 1400 years! No one has ever, in a movie, actually catlogged all of Mohammad's atrocities. They are scared! The end of Islam will happen in this century.

    Here's simply rule to live by: if a "god" selects you and you alone to be the greatest role model FOR ALL TIME, don't go porking children, especially when you already have a wife, because then people will think that you just made the whole story all up to increase your own power.
     
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    So can you agree with us that the Qur'an is clearly a made up tale, because 33:21 says he's the BEST ROLE MODEL FOR ALL TIME?
     
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    [24:3] The fornicator does not marry except a [female] fornicator or polytheist, and none marries her except a fornicator or a polytheist, and that has been made unlawful to the believers.
     
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    Fair is fair, but stupid is stupid.

    Muhammed was a pedophile: He had a child bride. That is historical fact. I don't know about him being a rapist, although considering that Islamists regulary use rape as a tool of intimidation I would not be surprised.

    Do you have some historical fact to back up Jesus being a racist?
     
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    And where do you find them?
     
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    So sane belief system dictates who can marry whom.
     
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