Was Jesus a rapist?

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  1. Marshal

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    The prophet Mohammed (pbuh) was GOOD to his wife and followers.

    BEHOLD the suggestive proof of history. The very fact that Aisha lived to uphold His teachings and His followers spread His gospel. If Mohammad was a tyrant, why did his people NOT say so, especially after His death?

    It would be easy to reject a cruel leader once he is gone, however Mohammed's followers did not do that, and Aisha carried forward his teachings with zeal and with love.

    Those are not the realities that would exist if the infidels' claims were true.

     
  2. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Hey, that worked for Joseph Smith!
     
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    That is coming from an American point of view and not from understanding the Jewish culture back then. A person can be gay and even be married to a woman or even have a lot of female friends. And there is no evidence on your part that Jesus only had close males friends......if you know anything about the New Testament you would not say what you said.
     
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    I think some people believe that just because they have the ability to communicate that automatically makes them an authority on the subject.
     
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    God likes good wine.

    Judges 9:13 (CJB) = But the grapevine replied, ‘Am I supposed to leave my wine, which gives cheer to God and humanity, just to go and hold sway over the trees?’

    Mark 14:25 (NKJV) = Assuredly, I say to you, I will no longer drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.”
     
  6. Gator

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    First, a question. Whart is this "pbuh" you keep writing? Are you spitting after writing "Mohammed"? If he is so distasteful to you, why do you follow him?

    Now, better read your quran. Moo-hamud sanctioned rape and impregnation of women from conquered lands. Didn't seem to be such a nice guy to Safiya either.
     
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    If Jesus was still wiggling on the cross after 2,000 years that could be impressive.
     
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    I should, but its hard.
     
  10. FreedomSeeker

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    Islam is sanctioning prostitution, so it's not a moral as Muslims always claim it is:

    Question:
    Does Islam have a loophole for sex-on-demand called 'temporary marriage'?

    Summary Answer:
    It is called Nikah Mut'ah, a fixed-time arrangement between a man and a woman that dissolves once the duration expires.

    The Qur'an:
    Qur'an (4:24) - "And those of whom ye seek content (by marrying them), give unto them their portions as a duty. And there is no sin for you in what ye do by mutual agreement after the duty (hath been done)"

    Qur'an (5:87) - "O you who believe! do not forbid (yourselves) the good things which Allah has made lawful for you and do not exceed the limits; surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits" Surprisingly the context for this verse (which is found in Bukhari (60:139) is temporary marriage, in this case trading an article of clothing for a few days of access to a woman's body. By calling this a "good thing," Muhammad really stood traditional morality on its ear.

    From the Hadith:
    Muslim (8:3252) - Muhammad clearly allowed his men to use temporary marriage as a sanctioned form of prostitution. (To be fair, the end of the hadith also seems to suggest that the practice was later forbidden. Islamic scholars disagree as to the historical context, and whether or not it is enough to supersede verse 4:24 of the Qur'an).

    Additional Notes:
    Since temporary marriage is a euphemism for prostitution, the Sunnis believe that it should only be practiced in certain times (such as the lifetime of Muhammad... oddly enough). The Shias take a more liberal position and freely allow the practice.

    Source: The Islamic texts and http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/008-temporary-marriage.htm
     
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    I would assume what would be really hard would be for intelligent people to tell their children, with a straight face, that an invisible man in the sky will torture them for eternity if they simply pick the wrong invisible super-hero out of the 200,000 invisible super-heroes that have existed in human history...and to say that "YES", that is FAIR.
    As a modern Secular Humanist (MSH), one can tell one's children that Santa, other invisible people, and Bigfoot, are not real. And that's it's simply NOT FAIR for them to be tortured for eternity for simply picking the wrong invisible super-hero, if any.

    As a MSH, one can come across as much more FAIR to their own children. And won't have to look foolish when their children ask them "where did Noah get the kangaroos and Polar Bears from then?" A MSH earns the respect of their children by not asking them to BELIEVE in unproven immoral fairy tales (as least not after the age of about 4 years old.)
     
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    Who Was The Naked Boy In The Garden Of Gethsemane?

    http://www.cfaith.com/index.php?opt...in-the-garden-of-gethsemane-&catid=113:easter

    Just about the time Jesus was finished healing the ear of the servant of the high priest named Malchus, the Gospel of Mark tells us a naked young man was found in the Garden of Gethsemane. Mark 15:51,52 says, "And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him: and he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked."
     
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    Just an interesting factoid but polar bears and brown bears are basically the same species. They can still interbreed. They just can't survive very long in each other's environments.
     
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    Plus, the savages that wrote the Bible approved of killing gays (that's why it's in the Bible - and Islamic texts too), so he couldn't "come out", or he'd have been slaughtered.

    The Bible/Quran APPROVE of cold-blooded murder of people that are harming no-one, but CONDEMN love:
    Two people LOVING each other (and harming no one): NOT GOOD AT ALL!
    KILLING those who love each other (and harm no one): GOOD, COMMANDED BY "GOD"!
     
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    Hope that when the Islamic revolution reaches America, and you have survived it, that the Shia's take over, cause they permit temporary marriage.

    When I looked up those scriptures on men sleeping with each other as with females, I recall that it didn't really say to kill them, but said their sin is upon them or their blood is upon them.

    Personally, if guys want to do that kind of stuff in privacy of their homes, why should I care?

    Went into a used bookstore once Late 70's, and they had a circular rack filled with Homosexual fantansy booklets. The most notable thing I recall is one b/w cover depicting some buff guys going after a non-queer and about to use him "sexually". They all had prominent bulges in their trousers.

    My suspicion is that homosexuals want to do like they did in the Sodom and Gammora story, always on the lookout for new conquests.
     
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    A gay lover of Jesus, perhaps? Great post! I would NOT want to debate you if I was a theist (I'd have to change my underwear so often from pissing in my pants so much.)
    Jesus could obviously clear this whole "is Jesus gay" thing up for us in a split-second, by just TELLING US now....unless he's not really listening to our prayers, or was just simply made up like Mithra, Zeus, Thor, Allah, Bigfoot, Yahweh, Ahmanrah, Santa, Krishna, Mother Goose, Darth Vader, etc. But Jesus won't....Mithra won't...Zeus won't....Thor won't...Bigfoot won't.....you get the idea.
     
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    Was Jesus a rapist?

    Not that know of.

    Would I go on a rampage if a man from Libya made a movie that personally offended me? No I would not.

    So whats your point OP?
     
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    Did you have a point?
     
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    PBUH=Peace be upon Him. It's attitudes like yours which leads people to fly aeroplanes into tall buildings. Go insult their Prophet to a Muslim when you're not hiding behind a keyboard. I'd buy tickets to that...
     
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    He makes no point with that. Do you REALY believe that Jesus was guy considering that the Pharisees and Sadducees hated Jesus and on several occasions wanted to stone Jesus for what He told them, would not have stoned Jesus if He was guy? Do you have any idea about the Jewish culture back then? Of all the accusations the Jews had against Jesus being guy was not one of them.

    How in the world a person can come to the conclusion that Jesus was gay because one of Jesus’ disciples had a linen cloth raped around his naked body, and some men who grabbed a hold of him and fled naked leaving the linen cloth in their hands means that Jesus was guy is really out on the deep end. Obviously Durandal attempt is to slander.
     
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    The link has nothing to do with Jesus being a rapist, you don't even read your own links do you? :lol:

    And it's not "fair is fair" - Muhammed had sex with a 9 year old girl, Jesus did not. That'd be saying that it's "fair" to call your mom a rapist just because she called Jerry Sandusky a rapist.
     
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    Another terminological inexactitude.
     
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    Sorry about the type o in#95.


     
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    Actually, no, the cause is a fantasy book that says you get 72 virgins (I'd rather have 72 whores that really know what they're doing, by the way) when you fight and die for a pedophile's invisible friend, making it one of the most morally warped books in world history. Books about invisible friends (Bible, Hindu texts, Qur'an, etc.) tend to be very dangerous....at least dangerous to one's logic, reason, critical thinking, and common sense.

    Snake, do you agree that the Islamic text basically sanction rape of women from conquered lands like Gator (and that movie, and me) professes?
     
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    Modern Secular Humanism is the most fair belief system today. So to be fair, I have to say that that link does indeed NOT say that Jesus was a rapist, so you are correct.
    However, it backs up the following wording, with references to the Bible: "Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible."

    Can anyone here say that a book that "often condones and even approves of rape" is a morally correct book? I don't think so. So perhaps the book about Jesus is not one to be followed, correct? Since it's not fair (since rape is not fair).
     
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