What a Progressive America would actually mean for We the People

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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WRONG. When it is done to all corporations, they will all raise their prices. Most corporations rely on a fairly small profit margin. It does not take much of a cost increase to wipe out their profits completely.

    If what you said was true, then all a corporation would have to do is lower their prices right now to capture the market to increase profit. It does not happen because they would lose money. Most corporations are very savvy on their prices structure. They have studied the market extensively and it is done around maximizing profit. It is a balance between market share and profit margin.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for confirming that I was RIGHT that corporations will NOT increase their prices because of tax increases. Instead they will PAY those taxes out of PROFITS because otherwise they RISK losing market share.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Those robots are going to be replacing jobs over the next 2 decades and the corporations that replace their workers will see massive INCREASES in PROFITS. Taxing just a small portion of those increased profits will easily pay for IBR.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Go back and reread what I posted because that is certainly not what I said.
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not being held hostage now.

    We already pay enough people to stay home, don't need any more.
     
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    There are zero tariffs on any products for the Trump family made in China.
     
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    I get paid to not work but I cheat and do it anyhow.
     
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    Shouldn't we wait til we actually have the drones that can fix the sewer (and everything else) before we remove the encentive for humans to do it?
     
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    I understand that we will lose 1/2 the jobs that we have now over the next few decades. And that Income taxes will no longer provide enough revenue as fewer and fewer people "work". But I don't think the new economy is going to throw the baby out with the bath water. In Yangs plan a starvation funding is given to every adult. But the economy remains the same. People can and will continue to work for wages and the more economic value you provide the more money you can make. A VAT type tax to raise this funding would be required to provide this 12,000 per adult funding.

    I think the plan is simple and brilliant. The less you buy the less tax you pay. You are not going to buy a monet or a bentley, Instead of a 250,000 car sold to a rich person Ten 25,000 cars will be produced and sold. Instead of one $10,000 refrigerator, they will make and sell ten $1000 ones. Rich people spend money they just don't spend it on items that create as many jobs as the items that the average person buys.
     
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    How are you removing the incentive? If you don't want to do it you can still pay someone to do it. How does that change?
     
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    The trucking industry can make $160 billion in EXCESS PROFITS each and every YEAR by using robots to drive trucks instead of people.

    As soon as it is cheaper to use robots sewer workers will be replaced.
     
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    VAT is a BAD idea because it is a REGRESSIVE form of taxation.
     
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    Or for anyone else who makes clothes in China.
     
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    Democrats pretending to be Republicans.
     
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    you are getting 1000 a month, you are not paying 1000 a month more in taxes.
     
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    I'm sure someone has covered this, but you need to double check your facts.... UBI is not intended to cover basic living costs. And yes, Finland's experiment was UBI. Which failed.

    In other words, 'it wasn't real socialism, real socialism works!'.....
     
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    Ohh boy…. do you understand market share, taxation, and price drivers? Do you understand consumer markets, market price adjustments, and price points? I'll guess they were in that chapter you skipped.
     
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    I wish more 'Americans' felt this way.
     
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    :roflol:

    That has to be the WEAKEST response ever posted!

    Sad!

    Really, really SAD!

    :roflol:
     
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    Do you know the difference between progressive and regressive taxation systems?
     
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    The PURPOSE of UBI is to prevent or reduce poverty therefore it needs to cover basic living costs.
     
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    :roflol:

    Ironic PROJECTION duly noted FTR!
     
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    Given its ultimately integration of tax and benefit systems, I do get amusement over right wing rant over it. Its as if Friedman's negative income tax, ultimately a variant of such integration, never existed!
     
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    Anything that benefits anyone but themselves and the 1% seems to push their buttons. They have been fed so much disinformation that it is now impossible to separate between fact and fiction. They have been supplied with a fictitious story to believe about every fact. This has supplanted critical thinking skills and reminds me of those inane biblical cartoons that used to be around when I was growing up.
     
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    If the "Progressives" ever took over the world all of the people who supported them would have, with great clarity, an epiphany. In that moment they would understand the true meaning of the term useful idiot. The charade would be over and these people would find themselves in the same boat as everyone else, screwed!!!. They would also be treated with the utmost contempt by those who were never fooled by the progressive agenda. In this position they would angrily oppose the new regime and be the first to be sent to camps, the first to die. The end game of progressivism is iron fisted terror. It was never about making the world a better place it was always about power and their lust for it knows no bounds. If you don't believe this you haven't been paying attention, history repeats itself, history recycles the same BS to lure the feeble minded into believing that paradise has finally been found. Eden was lost long ago, all that remains is this struggle on the edge of the abyss where there are those who will not be tempted and those who eagerly cannonball in.
     

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