What penalty should a woman who has an abortion face?

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What penalty should a woman who has an abortion face?

  1. First degree murder charges ( death penalty applies here in states that use the death penalty )

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  2. Second degree murder.

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  3. Manslaughter

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  4. Other ( you can elaborate below )

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  5. None

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  1. iamkurtz

    iamkurtz Banned

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    Most women end up in their own psychological prison after aborting the baby. I think that's enough. They realize it is wrong. But seven fools in black robes decided it is legal back in 1973 based on the 9th amendment. Even then they split the difference. The cowards used 'fetal viability' in order for them to be able to sleep at night with their horrible decision. In other words they implied that you can take life up to a certain point. Odd.
     
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    No doubt that a selfish woman has the right to slaughter the unborn.
     
  3. OhZone

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    Man's reproductive rights?
    It seems that he has the right to impregnate as many women as he can.
    If he doesn't like paying child support for 18 years he should do something about the cause of his part in the creation of that child.
     
  4. OhZone

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    I'd really like to know why you anti-abortionists get so hatefully heated up about this subject.
    What exactly goes on in your mind that brings you to this emotional state?
    Do you somehow personally identify with the aborted fetus?
    Do you have an unnatural fear of death?
    Are you a dominating personality? You're the boss in everything you do?
    Or are you a submissive, dominated person who gets some satisfaction from controlling other people?

    Oh, I know, you scream, "It's murder". But really, do you get as worked up over all the children who are abused hourly?

    Maybe for you the mental images of the many ways a child can be abused are just too overwhelming for you to contemplate.
    But the image of an aborted fetus is simple, and so you go with that.
     
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    A scarlet "A" should be sown into her tunic.
     
  6. OhZone

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    What makes you so vengeful in regards to someone you do not even know?
    Do you get so worked up over children who are abused?
    And what are you doing about it?
     
  7. Mayor Snorkum

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    Didn't you ever learn that human females cannot engage in parthenogenesis?

    If you believe that, you oppose all laws criminalizing rape.

    The Mayor bets you don't.

    The Mayor bets you need to learn to ponder the meanings of your knee-jerk emotional ignorant responses.

    And if the woman didn't want to be pregant, she had all the freedom in the world to tell the man to take his baby-delivery tool around to the back door.

    You're seriously unclear about the mechanics of human reproduction. Lack of experience is the usual cause of this problem.
     
  8. Mayor Snorkum

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    Kermit isn't the funny green Muppet, he's just one of many baby killing mass murderers.

    Why do you hate babies?

    Why do you presume that women are too stupid to take control of their own lives and have to be allowed to murder children rather than face the consequences of their stupidity?

    It's called "having a mind". People that lack minds vote for Obama.

    In a word, yes. It's called "humanity".

    People who lack humanity vote for Obama.

    The Mayor thought of so many fun things to say about that one.. Almost all of which would get the Mayor in trouble with either the management or the law.

    Consider it said. You figure out what.

    "It's good to be king." - Mel Brooks.

    It's better to be king in a land where infanticide isn't allowed.

    Bit confused on the meaning of words, aren't you?

    "Better dead than bled" is just STUPID. Just ask any dead person. You can find them in Democrat precincts on election day.

    So, let's try to figure out your confused statements.

    You're saying people selling Coca-Cola should use Grape Nehi in their ads?
     
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    There is really no simple answer to this question. The problem is that so many people have such a wide variety of opinions, it is very difficult to find a central point. Personally I believe there are circumstances where abortion is actually the right thing to do. When I see 14 year old girls being told that they cannot have an abortion because it is morally wrong, it makes me scream internally. In my view there is nothing more wrong then a 14 year old sacrificing her life from such a young age just to fit in with what is deemed morally correct. In cases such as this, abortion should be quite acceptable. I mean apart from the fact that the world really doesn't need more people in it anyway. I don't think it is right to punish someone for that.

    As for older women my views are a lot more conflicted. On the one hand I feel like if a responsible adult becomes pregnant, but then decides that they don't want the hassle of a child they should be allowed to make that choice. However on the other hand I feel that forcing some to bring up a child they don't particularly want is also wrong and unfair on the child. Either way both could end up suffering, whether they have the baby or not. In the end I still stand by the fact that the world is over populated. If you want to have baby then you should consider adopting. I believe adoption needs to be made cheaper and more easily achievable then it currently is.
     
  10. OhZone

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    Your comments are irrelevant to any of mine and unworthy of further explaining.
     
  11. OhZone

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    More irrelevancy unworthy of further comment.
    You do have a talent for twisting meanings.
     
  12. iamkurtz

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    By your logic, a man who beats a woman has committed no crime either. Because his fist is part of his body. And what he does with his own body is none of your business.
     
  15. AboveAlpha

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    Actually the analogy would be a man who beats himself up with his own fist or even better a man who cuts off his own hand has committed no crime as it is his body.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Not as much as liberals.

    Liberals are happy to pretend that 50% of the unborn babies they're murdering wouldn't have become women if their rights weren't horrendously violated.
     
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    Some people can't figure out that, topologically speaking, the genetically unique person growing in a woman's body is outside the surface of her body.

    And then there's that "genetically unique" part, too. If the baby was part of the woman's body....it would have the same DNA.

    But, of course, the realities of biology are an inconvenient truth for the baby-killers, so they ignore it. After, baby killing is a religious ritual, not a medical necessity.
     
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    Uh, no, it wouldn't be anything like that actually. Since there is only one person in your equation whereas there are two in the equation of the woman with child. Why do you think they call it "with child" in the first place?

    The female equivalent of what you just described would be a woman getting a tattoo, breast implants, liposuction, or even a sex change. Notice how most people don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about those things. Because nobody gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) what a woman does with her own body as long as she's not harming another innocent person in the process. Having a vagina does not grant you a license to kill someone. Least of all your own child. And arguing that it should only puts you in the same camp as the people who used to defend slavery as "property."
     
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    If abortion is murder, then so is masturbating.
     
  20. Turin

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    I will put you in the "Force her to give birth against her will" camp.
     
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    What does what you think about Liberals or Pro-Choice People have to do with the fact you yourself have now confirmed YOU DO HATE WOMEN!!???

    Dude...seek help...seriously.

    Hating Women is NOT a good way to go through life.

    AboveAlpha
     
  22. AboveAlpha

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    Hate to tell you but...NO....a Fetus is not only inside a woman's body but is actually attached to and a part of the woman's body.

    A Cancerous Tumor's Cells are comprised of DIFFERENT DNA than the person's other bodily cells but that does not mean that Tumor is not part of that persons body.

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  23. AboveAlpha

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    Well...actually the U.S. Supreme Court has determined that there is only ONE existing person in the example I give as they determined that PERSONAGE....which is what determines whether a Fetus has become a Bay or NOT...is something that only exists in a BIRTHED PERSON as the U.S. Supreme Court states that a Human Being having PERSONAGE exists at the point after BIRTH and a child exists when it no longer is within and attached to the child's mother and such a child can only exist outside the womb unattached to the Mother born naturally or by C-Section and PERSONAGE a child will obtain whether such a child is living due to mechanical life support or not.

    The U.S. SUPREME COURT HAS RULED A FETUS AT NO TIME IS CONSIDERED TO BE A CHILD WITH PERSONAGE AND A CHILD IS DETERMINED TO EXIST AND HAVE PERSONAGE ONLY EXISTING OUTSIDE OF THE WOMB AND UNATTACHED FROM THE MOTHER.....period.

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    Yeah...I guess that would make me a SERIAL KILLING MASS MURDERER for the greater part of my TEENS!!

    LOL!!!

    What does that make every woman I have ever dated....A CANNIBAL!!??? LOL!!!!!!

    Oh...MAN!!!

    That was a good one!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    If you accept this does that mean you are ok with destroying the "Fetus" just before birth in the last trimester?
     

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