Snowden is a sickening human being. When he talks it reminds me of Charles Manson, very cult-like with an extreme unwarranted self righteousness. He has not only put the country and it's citizens at risk, but he also jeopardized our relationships with some of our allies. He is one of the worst traitors this country has ever had. I believe he deserves the death penalty.
What made the entire space shuttle Challenger blow up and disintegrate in mid-air, killing all aboard and bringing our space program to a dead halt was an "O" ring that shouldn't have been trusted under the circumstances. What do you think would have happened to this ship of state if this current day version of a faulty "O" ring (an Obama ring???) hadn't been discovered to be untrustworthy and revealed for all to recognize? Far worse than the damage you fear being done thru espionage by foreign powers.
There's a popular saying going around that America can't be brought down by an assault from without our borders but from within. Where there might be a danger of many innocent lives being lost from Snowden's revelations being used by foreign entities in terrorist attacks on U.S. or our own covert agents being compromised, and while this is distressing, to be sure, it doesn't come close to the woe that would befall us should we allow a tyranncal government to take hold in this country. Where we would suffer a mighty blow should the worst case Snowden scenario take place, it would be, "GAME OVER" if Obama or any other would-be dictator ever successfully turned the powers of this government against our own citizenry. We would never breathe free again. Never.
For what? Violating the constitution which most public officials are sworn to uphold. Protection of the populous from unreasonable search and seizures comes to mind personally. Don't even try to tell me that it is completely reasonable that the government listen into every phone call, and monitor every email sent by our citizens in the country. In our country, there is no way to justify this short of a constitutional amendment. There are traitors here, and you can argue that they should or should not get the death penalty. However, they are the do nothings in the government that thought they could get away with throwing away our rights, and those who refuse to do anything to stop this? If people are so interested in stopping terrorists from blowing stuff up in our country, then why don't we stop accepting immigrants from third world hell holes where stuff blows up all the time?
They don't listen to every phone call and they do not monitor every email sent. If you are going to be traitors at least understand the legality of the programs and what they are.
They capture most of them, store them, and the machines listen to them. Yes, they captured (until 2011 to be sure) all email. That is how they are promoting it worked in the cases it did not actually prevent any terrorism. They are saying that they caught email going to bad guys. If you are going to be a traitor, don't fudge the tech. You don't understand it well enough.
They do not capture most telephone calls and emails. And I understand the technology plenty. You simply are a conspiracy theorist.
Let's try to be a little realistic. What exactly do you need the following to do that with? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center The planned structure is 1 million or 1.5 million square feet,[14][15][16] 100,000 square feet of data center space and greater than 900,000 square feet of technical support and administrative space,[4][14] and it is projected to cost from $1.5 billion[17][18][2] to $2 billion when finished in September 2013.[4][14] One report suggested that it will cost another $2 billion for hardware, software, and maintenance.[14] The completed facility is expected to require 65 megawatts, costing about $40 million per year.[4][14]
It's the NSA, they collect a lot of data. Does not mean they store data that would be a violation of the courts. All your showing me is they have a big compound being built that can house a lot of data. Actually kind of cool to me.
What do you understand about the technology? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-5...-flap-extends-to-contents-of-u.s-phone-calls/ http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-5...drop-on-americans-phone-calls-documents-show/ http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/06/5-new-revelations-nsa-spying-snowden Psst... it's actually a conspiracy. Documented by Snowden. You can pretend it is theory if you want.
Absolutely none of those provide evidence that the government records and stores most phone calls and emails. Greenwald is a lying sack of (*)(*)(*)(*) and there is no way they store the contents of 1 billion phone calls a day. Even your own source says... William Binney, a former NSA technical director who helped to modernize the agency's worldwide eavesdropping network, told the Daily Caller this week that the NSA records the phone calls of 500,000 to 1 million people who are on its so-called target list, and perhaps even more. "They look through these phone numbers and they target those and that's what they record," Binney said. 500,000 to 1 million people is not "most" phone calls. Not even a percent of phone calls out there.
Binney hasn't had a clearance in 12 years. This is new technology... and what possible sense would it make for a reporter who is exposing the truth to lie? That makes no sense at all. He is going for a Pulitzer. You can guarantee he is not "making (*)(*)(*)(*) up". His whole mission is exposing the truth... and lies. We can continue when the docs are out on that... meanwhile... the GCHQ is intercepting 600m telephone calls and emails as of last year. http://www.guardiannews.com/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsa You know there are 5 governments involved, with major installations all over the planet right? I do so hate faith based arguments. Please address this conspiracy with facts... not "that is probably a lie..." kthnxbi
He only knows what he is being told. They do not record 1 billion phone calls a day. Once again, that is not evidence. That is conjecture.
There's just no evidence that Snowden is telling any truth with his opinions. Any NSA analyst "at any time can target anyone, any selector, anywhere," Snowden told the Guardian. "I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge to even the president if I had a personal email." Robert Deitz, a former top lawyer at the NSA and CIA, called the claim a "complete and utter" falsehood. "First of all it's illegal," he said. "There is enormous oversight. They have keystroke auditing. There are, from time to time, cases in which some analyst is [angry] at his ex-wife and looks at the wrong thing and he is caught and fired," he said. NSA analysts who have the authority to query databases of metadata such as phone records — or Internet content, such as emails, videos or chat logs — are subject to stringent internal supervision and also the external oversight of the foreign surveillance court, former NSA officials said. "It's actually very difficult to do your job," said a former senior NSA operator, who also declined be quoted by name because of the sensitive nature of the case. "There are all these checks that don't allow you to move agilely enough." For example, the former operator said, he had go through an arduous process to obtain FISA court permission to gather Internet data on a foreign nuclear weapons proliferator living abroad because some of the data was passing through U.S. wires. "When he's saying he could just put any phone number in and look at phone calls, it just doesn't work that way," he said. " It's absurd. There are technical limits, and then there are people who review these sorts of queries." http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-76252634/ This is common sense thinking. The government does not allow 850,000 people access to query whoever they want whenever they want with out any sort of checks and balances. It's absurd to even think they collect 1 billion telephone conversations a day when it is completely against the Supreme Courts ruling and they would have no way to use those phone calls in any sort of investigation or trial. Snowden is an extremist and he is greatly fabricating his abilities and the capabilities of employees and contractors at the NSA.
And by the way this is what Greenwald actually says... "It talks about a brand new technology that enables the national security agency to redirect into its own repositories one billion cell phone calls every single day. One billion cell phone calls every single day," Like with most of Snowden's evidence it's simply nothing but conjecture and a listing of capabilities. He does not say they actually store 1 billion phone calls a day. He says they have new technology that would make it possible to store 1 billion phone calls a day. Like I said, I want to know what they actually do not what they can do. Snowden is nothing more then listing what they could do if they were corrupt and wanted to. There is no real evidence that the NSA is collecting 1 billion phone calls a day, there is no evidence that the NSA does not have oversight on who can access these phone calls. Snowden is full of (*)(*)(*)(*).
Yes, that is what Snowden said, and there is not a single person that has backed him up on that claim. And in the event that he had the ability to search anyone he wanted, it does not mean there are not checks and balances in place to know who is doing what at the NSA, lol. You honestly think he could have searched the Presidents email address and not been caught doing so? He has not provided any real evidence of wrongdoing, nothing but conjecture and what the NSA could do if they wanted to do it. Just like your claim that they store 1 billion phone calls a day. There is no evidence that they do that, they simply can if they wanted to based on new technology that would allow that much storage capacity. Snowden is a fraud who has greatly exaggerated his knowledge and capabilities at the NSA. There is a reason he did not do anything he said and just claims he could have if he wanted to... because even that fraud knows he couldn't do it with out being caught.
