Which is more compassionate, Trump's wall or Jesus' wall?

Many verses show that (even very very ethical), say, Hindus (i.e. non-Christians) get brutal, savage, barbaric torture because of the barbaric in-human system that your "loving" (actually babaric!) God/Jesus set up.
Many verses in the Bible claim that Jesus IS GOD, by the way. The evil Trump seems like a "saint" (well, they obviously don't actually exist) compared to your boy Jesus.

 

If YOU had Jesus' alleged super-ninja powers, Vegas Giants, would YOU let ethical Hindus into heaven (avoiding Jesus' wall)? Apparently some members, who shall remain nameless, can't seem to muster the moral courage to answer "yes".

 

No, I didn't say you worship Hitler - come on.

 

You literally said that...

 

Well first I would make the Giants win the super bowl every year.....then....LOL

 

Again the only reason I will not answer your question is because you adamantly refuse to acknowledge you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

1. God and Jesus are NOT the same thing. Holy hell this is pathetic and I can’t fathom how someone could have so much hatred for something they know so little about.

2. No verse does that. If you’re thinking of the Holy Trinity then no that is not what that means.

3. All of that was BEFORE Christ sacrificed himself for mankind. His sacrifice was specifically done so that all people could be accepted into Heaven. Yes. That includes your precious Hindus.

4. Christ is not the one who dictates who does or does not enter Heaven.

 

No, I said you're LIKE one who can't see the truth about his hero, basically. You're not a Nazi.

But do keep in mind that Jesus is more barbaric to the Jews because throwing ALL Jews into a "lake of fire" (Jesus) is far more brutal than throwing ONLY 6 MILLION Jews into ovens (Hitler.) So Jesus is less ethical than Hitler. Or is throwing Jews, FOREVER, into brutal torture actually more ethical than throwing them into ovens? Please tell us.

 

You're assuming that there will be no non-Christians (in this life) allowed to enter heaven.

That doesn't seem theologically justified.
For one thing, all those Jewish people in old times who lived before Jesus even came. Like Moses, for example. It's generally accepted that they can enter heaven (some of them at least). Next, we have the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus. Lazarus in the story would presumably not have been a Christian.

 

I like your humor.
That's a "no", clearly. It seems hard for people to be as ethical as I am, and simply find the moral courage to simply say that if they had Jesus' powers that they'd let, say, ethical Hindus into "heaven" and avoid brutal barbaric torture in "hell." Sad, really.

 

So I’m not a Nazi I’m just “like a Nazi”? Keep it up man. Keep it up.

And Jesus was a Jew... good god you have no clue. This would truly be entertaining if it wasn’t so pathetic.

 

So again why do you refuse to address the fact that Christ suffered brutal torture and crucifixion specifically to do exactly what you just said you would do if you had his power. What you just said is LITERALLY what Christ actually did. Yet here you are still whining about it. That makes no sense. So address this.

 

Can there be another option for “Polls are retarded”.

 

The Bible, in these verses, does indeed say that non-Christians will NOT, REPEAT NOT, get into "heaven" (so of course they go to the "lake of fire"):
John 14:6: Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me"
Acts 4:12, 2 Thessalonians 1:1-10, John 3:18, John 10:27-28, Matthew 10:32, Luke 12:8, John 5:2, John 3:36, John 6:47, Acts 16:31, Romans 10:9, Revelation 19:20, 20:10,14-15, 21:8, John 15:6: Jesus said “Unless a person remains united with me, he is thrown away like a branch and dries up. Such branches are gathered and thrown into the fire, where they are burned up."

A more barbaric system even the Nazis didn't have. Again, Jesus is less ethical than even Trump and Hitler. Hitler shortened the Jews' lives by half, on average, arguably, and not "forever"....and God/Jesus' "lake of fire" was designed for torture, whereas Hitler's death camps where not exclusively for torture, as such. Hitler and Jesus were both evil, however.

 

Well one thing we know for sure is that polls are always very very accurate!! Just ask Hillary.

 

He's immoral, as God/Jesus (the Bible in many many verses say they are the same) in the Bible (according to many many verses) won't let non-Christians (say, Muslims, Sikhs, Buddhists, Hindus, etc.) into the happy place, but instead set up a worse-than-Hitler system of a barbaric "lake of fire" to torture them longer than Hitler ever even DREAMED of torturing his worst enemy in. Truly barbaric.

I say this as a former Christian with Christian clergy relatives.

 

Not a fan of Trump or Hillary, but took this screen shot on election day because it made me laugh so much.

 

Jesus refuses to come down and tell us the real answers, so he probably doesn't exist, but still, if, repeat if, hypothetically here (I'm after YOUR moral opinion with this question) God DID set up a system whereby all Hindus went to brutal, barbaric torture, forever ("hell") would you condemn that god as immoral, like I obviously do? This is a simple moral question for you.

 

Absolutely HILLARYous!

 

That's not necessarily equivalent to saying that it is impossible for people who do not happen to be Christians in this life to enter heaven.

 

So on the one hand you demand what you asked earlier be done but then when you’re confronted with the fact that he literally did that your response is “he’s immoral.” ? You make no sense. At all.

And again. It’s hard to have a rational discussion with someone who clearly has no idea about what the hell they are saying. Look at what you are saying about hell and god. You clearly undeniably have no clue yet here you are still raging with as much hate as you can muster. Sad. It’s like explain rocket science to a toddler. There’s just only so much you can do. It’s again why I refuse to answer your question even though I have a really good answer. Because there would be no point because you clearly would not be able to comprehend it.

 

Your USERNAME might just be the most truthful thing on this forum all night!

 

You didn't write anything - you only quoted me.

 

I did write something, you should go back and look.

The reason I created the post before writing a response is because if I don't, there will be many other off-topic low quality posts rapidly made in the mean time, while I'm taking time to write out a well thought out response.

You shouldn't make a reply to my post if it was only posted 2 minutes ago.

 

Let's cut to the chase: if, repeat if, hypothetically here (I'm after YOUR moral opinion with this question) God DID set up a system whereby all Hindus went to brutal, barbaric torture, forever ("hell") would you condemn that god as immoral, like I obviously do? This is a simple moral question for you.

 

Yes, good point, I see that it was edited by you 2 minutes later. Thanks.