Which is more compassionate, Trump's wall or Jesus' wall?

I'm not perfect, but I'm not a "sinner" in the Biblical sense because it's not MY fault if some psycho ate some magic apple in some magic garden where snakes talk to people.

No loving/caring god would set humanity up for a "fall" like that, if he was all-knowing and therefore would KNOW the outcome in advance.

 

Magic is not real.

 

Well, that's not Christianity teaches.

One of the big tenants in Christianity is that all people are sinners. This isn't simply just some metaphysical question, but it may require some degree of wisdom or belief.

 

If, repeat if, hypothetically speaking here, most ethical Muslims go to "hell", do you condemn God/Jesus like I do? Or are ethical Muslims "not worthy"?....but YOU are somehow "worthy" because you just happened to luck out and pick the (allegedly) one true god out of the THOUSANDS on offer?

 

A psycho religion, then.
In the verse before the Golden Rule God/Jesus says that we are all "evil" or "wicked" (depending on the translation.) Jesus has been bringing down humanity's self-esteem for 2000 years. Shame on him.

 

Do you believe most muslims are ethical?

 

An anti-human religion, to be sure, then.

 

Maybe you mean to say anti-humanist.

 

I'm far more ethical than Jesus because that psycho accepted slavery, yes slavery, one of the most barbaric systems in human history (see below):



Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things a person can do. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments. The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.

Many Jews and Christians will try to ignore the moral problems of slavery by saying that these slaves were actually servants or indentured servants. Many translations of the Bible use the word “servant”, “bondservant”, or “manservant” instead of “slave” to make the Bible seem less immoral than it really is. While many slaves may have worked as household servants, that doesn’t mean that they were not slaves who were bought, sold, and treated worse than livestock.

The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

The following passage describes how the Hebrew slaves are to be treated.

If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

Notice how they can get a male Hebrew slave to become a permanent slave by keeping his wife and children hostage until he says he wants to become a permanent slave. What kind of family values are these?

The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery. How can anyone think it is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave?

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

So these are the Bible family values! A man can buy as many sex slaves as he wants as long as he feeds them, clothes them, and has sex with them!

What does the Bible say about beating slaves? It says you can beat both male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don’t die right away you are cleared of any wrong doing

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

In the following parable, Jesus clearly approves of beating slaves even if they didn’t know they were doing anything wrong.

The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. “But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given.” (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/slavery/

 

Love how thats the part you choose to address. Skip everything else I said. Just like a bigot would.

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/p...n-for-non-christians-explained-sola-scriptura

 

Cute. I admire your wit.
No, anti-human. He hates humanity.

 

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/p...n-for-non-christians-explained-sola-scriptura

 

God gave man free will. More lack of understanding from you.

 

If they follow the Qur'an, then no, since, for example, Q4:34 says to beat women. And no Muslim I've ever conversed with will, even when asked directly, say that Mohammad/Allah got that verse morally wrong. Can we agree that any religion that puts women below men is immoral, kazenatsu?
http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-wife-beating-koran-4-34.htm

 

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/p...n-for-non-christians-explained-sola-scriptura

And at no point did I say I was somehow worthy. I don’t know if I am. I will be judged just as all others will. Only then will I know. Plenty of Christians don’t get into Heaven. Again you clearly have no idea how any of this works.

 

Perhaps you missed these verses in the BuyBull that says we do NOT have free will:



O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. Jeremiah 10:23

And as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate.... Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Romans 8:29-30

For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth. .... For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? ... Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction. Romans 9:11-22

He hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will. Ephesians 1:4-5

God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned. 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began. 2 Timothy 1:9

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation. Jude 4

 

So brutal, barbaric, in-human TORTURE, FOREVER, is just and fair punishment for a person who is not up to Jesus' insane standards, in your mind, apparently?

 

Most Christians probably are NOT, because they endorse a book that hates women so much that I'm kind of embarrassed to be of the same species as them: ".....women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” - First Corinthians 14:33–35 (ESV)

Barbaric! And they CLAIM to love their mothers.

 

Stop with the low self-esteem.

 

Many did say that Trump is unfair, but here we are all of us is under his presidency,
the main thing is it's already there and we live with it thus it's already a part of humanity undeniably.

 

Trumps wall is more compassionate to Americans

Globalist-socialists care about foreigners more than their own people

 

I find it kind of ironic he's complaining about God putting people in hell when he wants to turn the country into a hell.

 

The thing you have to realize, it wouldn't be heaven if everyone really bad was allowed to be there.

I'd theorize there might be a few different levels of heaven.

 

You are wrong to hate Jesus and deny God

 

It might just be torture for a period of time, until they get everything they deserve, and then at some point in time their existence will be completely ended.

I've often speculated, for example, that abortion doctors will have to relive all their abortions – only this time on the receiving end as the victim.