Who is to blame?

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  1. Indofred

    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    If you allow stupid people to have guns, you can expect "accidents" such as this to happen.
    John Wayne is fictional and most people with guns have no bloody clue and/or are far too stupid to own one.

    That or he'd been shagging her and wanted an excuse to get rid before she spilled the beans.
     
  2. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Source for people accidentally shooting family member at a rate of 4 to 5 times a day please.
     
  3. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? I don't what I am talking about? Then prove me wrong. You have no (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idea what has happened in my life, but I can assure you, I do know what I am talking about. This is what drives me crazy about liberals, you are always sticking up for the criminals, and murderers. You don't like the law, so you accuse those of us that abide by it, as if there is something wrong with us. Total bull(*)(*)(*)(*) religion on your part Pardy, is it any wonder why this country is so (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up with thinking like yours

    My big screen tv is just that, mine, and if someone breaks into my house, they are not going to announce, "I am here just to steal your tv, I don't want to hurt you", so with that, death will be emanate for them. They will never steal again. :roflol:
     
  4. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://ktla.com/2013/06/25/graphic-video-nanny-cam-catches-burglar-brutally-attacking-homeowner/

    This guy could have just taken what he wanted too.
     
  5. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I continue to say that NO MATERIAL possession is worth a life, and I also have my mother's wedge wood china and Christofle silverware. . .which, by the way, young people these days are not especially thrill about "inheriting!" And, I doubt that a thief interested in 'fine China and silverware" would come in the middle of the night, and try to get everything packed up and transported to his car . . .without breaking the precious china. . . and plan on killing the owners!

    You do realize that even antique china and silverware is worth at best (especially on the black market) $10,000! (I know. . .I've checked for insurance purpose!)

    But, at least I can agree with you on one thing: It would be better and less extreme to shoot in the legs than in the head or heart! You could expect the thief to drop your china. . .in any case! :wink::smile:
     
  6. BroncoBilly

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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Somehow they think that's all an intruder wants is stuff. The guy in the story I posted wanted to leave some rage behind too.
     
  9. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you wanting to say that "death will be imminent for them," or that "death will emanate from them?"

    I still don't think your big screen TV is worth the life of a man!
     
  10. Str8Edge

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    Well see? There's progressive logic at it's finest...... An armed home invader ALREADY KNOWS YOU'RE the home owner..... HE/SHE is breaking into YOUR HOUSE........
     
  11. BroncoBilly

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    It has absolutely nothing to do with the tv, china or anything else, it is all about violating my space, my house, my castle, they violate it, and they will pay the ultimate price, and here's the kicker Sadanie, the law is on my side.
     
  12. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Typo, I meant imminent. You don't have to think it is worth a tv, but as I just said, it is not about the tv, it is most definitely about an invasion of my house, and it would be a valid reason for me to take their life.
     
  13. Sadanie

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    This statistic might be an overstatement (I don't know. . I didn't post it!), but it is absolutely true that gun ownership increased the risk of accidental death (especially for children) of a family member and that a gun in a home is much more likely to result in the shooting (accidental or not) of a family member than to be used for "self-defense!"

     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep, most intruders are packing, which means they are in attack mode, which means they are now my target
     
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    Based on your comments (i.e., "target") I would be more fearful of meeting you in your home or mine than to meet any burglar in my home!
     
  16. Sadanie

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    You have the right (I guess. . .I hope you don't have to find out some day!) to feel that way.

    I prefer to invite people to my home, but if they show up unexpected, or if I feel they "invade my home" in some way, I would STILL not want to take their life!

    So. . .we obviously have irreconcilable differences!:wink:
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's because you have never met one. You obviously didn't view the video PP posted, that is what happens most often when an intruder is confronted. You can do whatever floats your boat with this issue, but you liberals weighing in on my constitutional rights as if I am the bad guy is bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I obey the law, and if you met me, you would know I am one of the nicest people you will ever encounter, but I will exercise my right to defend my family and home.
     
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    I have already had the experience, and it didn't turn out well for him, and I would do it again in a NY minute
     
  19. Professor Peabody

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    If she took this attitude, "and could be stopped with a mere warning and intimidation", she surely would have been shot with her own gun. No one should own a gun or keep it in their home unless they are ready, willing and able to tell an intruder to "freeze", then shoot him immediately if they fail to comply. That's how homeowners do and don't get shot with their own gun.

    I believe in freedom of choice. If anyone would prefer to be a punching bag or the subject for a family members teary eyed cries for justice on the evening news after being murdered by some guy convicted of 12 felonies and still on the street, then more power to 'em. They simply don't have the right to make that choice FOR me.
     
  20. Sadanie

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    I have heard that once one "taste blood" one wants more!

    Isn't that what vampire and werewolves stories are all about?
    Isn't that why some hunting fanatics make their young child TASTE the blood of their first shoot?

    Well. . .I never had much taste for blood. When I see it, I want to help, not kill!
     
  21. leekohler2

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    Yep- same here. Agree completely.
     
  22. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep, that is the problem I have with their passive ideology, if that's what they want, be my guest, I will more than likely read about them in a body bag from a home invasion. My heart almost beat out of my chest with my experience, and there was no room for debate with that intruder. If you pick up a gun, you have to be prepared to use the gun without hesitation.
     
  23. Sadanie

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    We both agree on this much: we both have freedom of choice.

    I choose to lead my life as far from killing machines (and people with the INTENT to kill at first sight). It has served me well. 63 years with no attack, even when surrounded with people with mental illness displaying aggressive behaviors, and driving and walking through "the wrong side" of towns to visit my clients and their family, has giving me the certitude that, if my time comes that I am being attacked. . .even if I die, I will have lived a good life expecting the best out of people and giving them my best. . .not expecting the worst and accepting the dreadful "conclusion" that I am ready to kill another human being.

    Maybe I'm just lucky. . .or maybe it is Karma. . .I am indeed a big believer in Karma!
     
  24. BroncoBilly

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    You live in a fantasy land, and apparently watch way to much television. I served my nation in Vietnam, and was awarded medals for helping those in need, but it also allowed me to learn how vicious and ugly human beings can be. My view of the world is a very positive one, but my view of bad people is also like that of a doctor removing the cancer, and our society is healthier for it
     
  25. Sadanie

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    And, to get back to the TOPIC OF THIS THREAD, if HE had taken that attitude, his stepdaughter would still be alive.
     

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