Why are guns holy objects in this country?

LOL do you inspect your child's toys every time they play with it? Why can't they play with it at night? I see this all the time when i was young. Perhaps you should grow and realize the world have changed. All it takes is one looney tune to paint the tip of their weapon orange and committed a killing with it for this whole thing to change. You want your kid to get hurt or possibly killed, go ahead and let them play with their BB gun in public.

 

It simply, and I mean SIMPLY, boils down to agenda! I find hard to believe anyone can be serious about shooting and gun control when numbers like this "Chicago" can go unchanged decade after decade and very seldom addressed on the hill and even less recognized places like this forum and other similar to it's platform..

The whole subject and discussion here and everywhere is obviously disingenuous everywhere, it only serves an agenda and has nothing to do with the horrors of gun death and shootings!

 

What about the criminals who paint the barrel tips of their guns orange?

Any system can be beaten.

 

My grandkids play with them all the time, I have a gun range on my ranch and yes we monitor the kids. The kids love coming over because they know that they will be able to do things like hunt and fish, that their parents don't have the time to do since they both work. It's called 'patenting' you might want to shut off the TV and the video games and spend time with your kids instead of turning them over to the electronic babysitter.

 

Your ranch isn't a public place now is it?

 

You would need a bit of a history lesson to understand this. I would suggest looking at the Napoleonic wars for a primer. Having an armed populace allowed Napoleon to devastate countries were the populace didn't know how to aim a squirt gun because the rulers didn't want the hoi polloi to be armed.

Or maybe you would want to look into why you think you want to take my guns away. Why do you want to do that? You've given no reasons (never will).

Basically, you're about a dollar shy of having a quarter when it comes to understanding why people might want to have guns. Lots of emotion and nothing else.

 

He's getting patents on kids?

 

Equally there are multiple times when the gun has been taken off her by the assailant and then used against her

But this shows several things

1) ignorance of the fact that the majority of rapes are by men known to the woman
2) the number of times guns have been used offensively against women far outnumber rapes
3) Murphy's law

 

That may be true, but it omits a very important factor.. How many rapes did not occur because assailant thought the woman might be carrying a weapon and elected not to carry out his deed? I consider deterrence a much better use of a firearm than discharging it.

 

Guns are "dumb" objects with no computerized control built into them. Guns are no smarter than a flail or a knife.

The person who picks up a gun is in complete control of it, of at least should be in control.

A home with no father present to guide a son is recipe for disaster.

 

I find no fault in your post, other than don't underestimate the Latino's! Being from Northern cali they are a force to be reckoned with! To be honest with you, they can be extremely brutal, and that comes from a deep loyalty to blood.. If you're not, you mean nothing to them, that includes naturalized American Citizen! This has been emboldened in them "California" because of leftist leniency policies and the willingness to protect them and reluctance to police them.

It's a problem!

 

You are totally correct.

 

A problem for californians, but not really since they don't seem to care. It's like caring about what kind of gas my neighbor fills his car's gasoline tank with. If it's water, well... not my problem. I'm not the one that's going to be trying to start his car using pure h20 and wondering why it won't start.

They don't care, so... that's on them.

 

I agree except nobody is going to force you to help your neighbor drop his gas tank and drain it.

Eventually we are all going to have to pony up big money to bail CA out of their bankruptcies.

 

It takes a whole lotta HEET in the yellow bottle to correct that problem.

 

A gun is an equalizer. Two armed men are far more equal than two unarmed men, at least in the use of force dynamic. There are a great many people on this earth who are no threat to a great many others. The small, the weak, the sick and the peaceful are not a lethal threat in the use of force dynamic to the big, strong, healthy and martially trained ...or rather they weren't until firearms became commonplace. Now every individual has at least a reasonable chance to defend themselves from other individuals should they choose to do so. Guns effectively nullify the dynamic of peasant vs lord.

The very first firearms in fact were invented by peasants to overthrow a dictator that subjected them with a trained army.

America was founded on classlessness- equality of opportunity. Anyone can theoretically become rich or poor, president or grocery bagger, regardless of their origin. This concept goes hand in hand with the concept that no one has a monopoly on lethal force, because if they did, they would eventually become a ruling class and liberty would end.

 

wtf? hell no!!! They're going to have to live in the grave they dug.

 

Well let us look at a couple of countries stats for that answer

Now according to this the USA has more rapes than Aus, which is impressive given we do not keep separate rape stats but lump it all under sexual Assault


We are not even on thatngraph but the UK is and at a slightly lower rate

 

If all guns were banned, armed robbery, armed burglary, armed murder and mass shootings would all increase.

Christ did not award us with automobiles, either, and they kill more people than guns.

 

Translation: Leftist hatred for the 2nd amendment is so pervasive that they will advocate for restrictive law after restrictive law until the 2nd amendment exists on paper only and is otherwise void. Leftists SAY that they aren't trying to prevent honest citizens from owning guns . . . but EVERYTHING that they advocate is aimed directly at accomplishing that ideological goal. It would be nice if for once leftists in general would just admit the truth about what they are really intending to do. It would at least be different.

 

Yes but a gun also has a "weapons effect" that can needlessly escalate a situation

 

I certainly hope so. I’d like nothing better than to see places like that self destruct so they can start over hopefully more intelligently.

 

Simple, you systematically disarm every citizen. That is the leftist goal no matter what they protest to the contrary. Once you have finally accomplished it then the real fun begins, because then you can do absolutely anything that you want to do to or with your citizenry and they have absolutely no meaningful recourse to defiance. That is ALWAYS the long term leftist goal and WHY it is always their long term goal. You must disarm the populace in order to force lots and lots and lots of wholesome leftist goodness down their throats, no matter what.

 

Why the hell then are ther not more criminals with guns here in Aus?

Just yesterday we has a terror attack in Melbourne and the guy had a knife. It was frenzied he killed one person and injured two more and was tackled by a guy with a shopping trolley and another bloke with a chair before the police shot him dead.

Where was his semi automatic?