Why Trump Won

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  1. GeorgiaAmy

    GeorgiaAmy Well-Known Member

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    A Trump win compared to 9/11.
    No American who witnessed 9/11 would ever write that. Never.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's only 9/11 for the ill prepared for the realities of life left wing snowflakes. Am I to assume you are one?
     
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    I wasn't near the age to vote when 9/11 occurred.

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    That sounds like a excuse that people like you will be repeating 4 years from now after Trump has torn the country apart. Laugh now, cry later.
     
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    Dems in control since 2000?

    Have I entered the Twilight Zone here?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More snowflake nonsense? The meltdown continues.
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    Ignorance in its finest hour. Check in with me again when you actually take off your blindfold.
     
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    GeorgiaAmy Well-Known Member

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    I knew you weren't witness in the US on 9/11 to compare it to a Trump win. It was just so completely ignorant on so many levels.
    You could learn and understand so much more by asking rather than presuming.
    9/11 cannot be compared to anything that has happened in the US that most living Americans have experienced. Nothing remotely close.
     
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    I am American.......

    It was some sort of terror. I'm just wondering how many moms legitimately pulled their children aside, and said, I'm sorry to tell you this, but America just fu*ked you up."
     
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    Keep holding your breath... When the US implodes, how will your life change?
     
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    1) Because they always outspend their opponents.
    2) They are in gerrymandered districts.
    3) Once they get seniority, they claim they have great influence in Washington and it would be foolish for that district (or state) to start over with a rookie.
     
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    Even if there is no signs of moving away, its always smart to look into some sort of dual citizenship, a emergency exit of sorts for the god forbid instance that the US does implode.
     
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    Haha. I think most of us would stay here fighting for it. If America dies, we don't deserve it.
    Non-Americans frequently reference Hitler and Nazis when talking about race and political issues. The other side of the world must still have a lot of Jew related tension.
    We love Jews. We have absolutely no problem with them. They are among America's most educated and wealthy citizens. Nobody is vandalizing Synagogues. And most obviously, we love and support Israel always.
    What's your problem with Jews?
     
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    On the flip side both parties had a lot of new registered members. I think California for example had over 1 million new registered Democrats. Florida is an example of a state where the Republicans had a lot of new registered members. So while a lot of Democrats chose not to vote the Democratic party did still energize new people to join. The Democrats will pick themselves back up again and if Trump does a poor job they have a good chance at 2020 but if Trump does a good job and actually changes a lot of people's minds then the Democrats will have an uphill battle but as this election has shown anything is possible. I am still staying positive that Trump will do great things and he is definitely better than Hillary but if messes things up badly it will be Republicans staying home next election. Let's wait and see what happens first.
     
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    Problem is a lot of Americans and Europeans (the masses) are happy to let their leaders do their thinking for them, so when they hear them saying stuff like this below, they blindly accept it without question-

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    GeorgiaAmy Well-Known Member

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    Why register aligned with a party?
     
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    GeorgiaAmy Well-Known Member

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    Haha. Americans hate Middle Eastern Muslims. That isnt changing any time soon.
    How we view news and media has radically changed over the past decade. We choose what we watch, hear, and read.
    I wouldn't comment on European media or politics because I am not informed enough to.
     
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    Maybe most American papers and TV news channels don't report on what's going on outside America, so try to find ones that do, plus of course there are all sorts of 'World News' websites and video channels on the internet.
    Our Brit media (to their credit) regularly report on what's going on around the world such as this recent headline..:)-

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    As long as they stay in their own countries that's fine, but it's when they start coming to our countries that the trouble begins..

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    Yes, there's a sort of blind faith - a puppy-like devotion by the unthinking masses toward some public figures for no other reason than their social position, even though they've never deserved nor earned it. Indeed, even if their ineptness has been proven beyond doubt, their disciples instantly forget the shortcomings. There's also an inability to recognise wisdom or talent. I put it down to this present era of 'celebrity worship'.
     
  22. LafayetteBis

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    WARLORD TRUMP

    Patent BS. Americans have the right to hate only ISIS-muslims of the Sunnite-sect. (Saddam Hussein was Sunni.) Because they are at the heart of the Middle-east problems today.

    ISIS started in an internment camp in the southeast of Iraq after the Gulf War. The principal actors there, along with al-Baghdadi (or "al-Zarqari", take your pick) himself, were ex-Hussein Army officers seeking revenge for their defeat. Once released, they understood that they had no future in Iraq without military action to "retake it".

    So, they looked for funding sources, and there was one - right under their noses in eastern Syria. Assad's oil fields that he was unable to protect, due to an uprising in the western part of Syria where most people live. So, the foundational ISIS group, Sunnis, literally "took over" the oil-fields and had a source of funding. (Note that their enemy in Iraq, Assad, president of Syria, is a Shiite.)

    ISIS established their headquarters in the city or Raqqa (further to the east of the oil-fields) in the middle of the country, and went on to take Mosul (in northern Iraq Sunni territory) and not more than a few hundred kilometers from Raqqa to the east. It was also the home of Saddam Hussein himself who was Sunni*, and where his two sons were killed in a pitched battle with American forces.

    In a Mosul bank, ISIS reportedly discovered hundreds of millions of dollars that had been stashed by the Hussein family, which served to fuel their "revolution". The fall of Mosul to ISIS was largely due to inept Iraqi military leadership attempting to retake it that failed. That effort had been forced hurriedly by the "Dubya-crowd" in postwar Iraq "to come to a conclusion". It didn't work out that way.

    With some very clever propagandizing (as well as winning a good many battles), ISIS was able to recruit by means of the Internet young and addle-headed muslims to their "sect". The original Army colonels have since been mostly killed-in-action, but the hard-core remnants (al-Baghdadi himself) remain in control of ISIS in Raqqa, Syria. (Mosul will be retaken soon enough, but not tomorrow.)

    Get "al-Baghdadi" and ISIS will fall like a house of cards. That is the major problem, because the US (under Obama) refused a proposition by the French to invade central-Syria (with troops) to take Raqqa. That invasion would have been very delicate (the US/France invading a foreign nation), very costly (it would take at least a year if not more to get al-Baghdadi), and very long.

    Obama at first agreed and then refused widening the war, but Warlord Trump might be of a different sentiment. At least his new Army Chief (a general that Obama "retired" because they disputed strategy in Iraq) is our next "Sec Def".

    Any questions? Read up on the matter - all the above information comes from verifiable multiple Web print-sources that are easily found. (For the origins of ISIS in "Camp Bucca" near the Kuwati border, see this Guardian article, ISIS, the Inside Story.)

    Happy reading ...

    *The majority of Iraqis are Shiite, which is the source of the conflict between Sunni and Shiite sects in not only Iraq, but the rest of the Middle-east. It is a religious conflict - just like between the Protestants and Catholics in Europe - that dates from the 7th/8th century.
     
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    As you so aptly display.
     
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    Well put.

    I would add to that recipe a profound ignorance of Civic Duty and how government works. Howzat?

    For a broad exposition of the lack of Civic Duty Sense, I suggest this news-article here: But perhaps schools are largely to blame for the rather pathetic participation numbers; perhaps young adultsÂ’ ignorance of civic affairs helps explain why so few of them cast their votes. Perhaps that means change is possible.[/COLOR]}
     
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    On the other hand, hopefully Don might refuse pointblank to get involved in any silly conflict that isn't strictly in America's interest..:)
    "In war, one has neither friends or enemies, only interests"- Winston Churchill
    For example he's already rightly hinted that he doesn't like some aspects of the NATO structure and charter which might require American troops to go die for some obscure nation somewhere. Good for him..:)
     

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