Why vote by mail is as secure or maybe more secure than in-person voting

Legitimate ignorance or blatant gaslighting?

 

Sure, how many of these situations exist?. You could similarly drive them to the polling place, and tell them who to vote for. No different.

 

You can drive them to the polling place but you can't fill out their ballot for them like you can with mail in voting.

 

So what?

 

So voter fraud. Why is this so difficult for you to comprehend?

 

Non-government agencies do not have their own law enforcement divisions with federal arrest powers. Here endeth the lesson...

 

This is a 100% orthogonal non sequitur feint, presumably because you cannot answer struth's question.

 

Gaslighting it is...

 

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Attorney General William Barr suffered what was described as a “severe back strain” while trying to lift a mailbox into a pickup truck on Saturday.

According to Barr, he tried to give the mailbox “one good yank” to heave it into the truck, when he heard “something go pop” in his back.

“I remember thinking, Hoo, boy, that’s not good,” Barr said.

At the White House, Donald J. Trump said that the injury to Barr was “disgraceful” and yet another argument against mail-in voting.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/bor...esrc=&mbid=CRMNYR062419&utm_term=TNY_Borowitz



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/p...way-on-a-flatbed-truck-cause-stir/ar-BB180wdM

 

Coming from a poster who thinks

1. The post office is a non profit organization
2. The post office is tax payer funded
3. Compares USPS to the Supreme Court, House, and Congress
4. Thinks owners of resorts and hotels can’t have a legal residence on property
5. Doesn’t know Democrats want to mandate mail in voting
6. Doesn’t know Trump squashed the Democrats request for 25 billion to USPS
I’ll just consider the source

The USPS is created as a government agency under Title 39, Section 101.1 of the United States Code which states:

USPS is a for profit Business
the Postal Service takes on some several very non-governmental attributes via the powers granted to it under Title 39, Section 401, which include:
power to sue (and be sued) under its own name;
power to adopt, amend and repeal its own regulations;
power to enter into and perform contracts, execute instruments, and determine the character of, and the necessity for, its expenditures;
power to buy, sell and lease private property;
power to build, operate, lease and maintain buildings and facilities.

All of which are typical functions and powers of a private business.

The only taxpayer money they receive are for products produced for the government. Around $96 million is budgeted annually by Congress for the Postal Service Fund. These funds are used to compensate USPS for postage-free mailing for all legally blind persons and for mail-in election ballots sent from US citizens living overseas. A portion of the funds also pays USPS for providing address information to state and local child support enforcement agencies.

This does not mean USPS is a tax payer funded organization. It means they provide a service for profit to the government just like they do for any other organization.

The Supreme court doesn't lose money or operates to raise capital. They are paid elected officials
The House doesn't lose money or operate to raise capital. The House is run by paid elected officials
Congress doesn't lose money or operate to raise capital. It is run by paid elected officials

Any other money USPS might receive from the government goes through the same process for government funding as any other organization. Through Congress. And just like the 25 billion recently denied to USPS, there is no guarantee they will receive anything.

 

Yeah. A million people who are stupid enough to risk going to jail by casting one vote for their Alzheimer parent, all of them Democrats... despite the fact that this has never happened before, not even in a small scale, will surely tip the election for Biden. And they better be good at falsifying their parent's signature on the ballot they send, because they could easily get caught.

Do Trump supporters even begin to understand how ridiculous their claims are? Because if they don't, some compassionate soul should let them know that saying nonsense like that in public only makes them look foolish.

 

What's the difference between filling out a ballot for an Alzheimer's patient or driving them to the polling station with a note telling them who to vote for? Nothing. No difference whatsoever.

 

The risk is nill and you have no idea how often it occurs because it’s virtually impossible to catch someone filling out their Alzheimer’s afflicted parents ballot in their own home.

 

With a note telling them how to vote ? Lmao

 

Filling out their parents ballot. Lmao.

 

I worked for Jefferson County, CO as a ballot collector in the 2012 election. As such all of us were given a tour of the facility where the votes are tabulated to see how the process works. Signature verification is a key aspect of the process since the voter must sign the ballot, with that signature being compared to one on file with the county. The signatures are verified by people of opposing parties.
There are also safeguards against duplicate votes from the same voter who may try to vote by mail and vote in person.

Bottom line...............Trump's assertions about mail-in voter fraud are without merit or proof.

Proof he does not need since The Following is open to suggestion without supporting facts.

 

Why pick on Alzheimer's patients? Why not just claim kids are grabbing them out of mail boxes? Or that China is grabbing them from the mailman? Or that Nancy Pelosi is controlling everyone's vote with her mind control death ray? They're all equally ridiculous.

No appreciable fraud exists. Trump lied, and now he has his bootlickers making excuses, as usual

 

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If you insist on debating without making an effort to research anything, you have no idea what you're getting yourself into. Many right-wing posters have avoided the whole problem by putting me and those of us who do research in their "ignore" list. You might want to consider doing that.

 

I don't know what you're saying. The only vetting they do when you request a ballot is precisely to check if you're in the voter registration list. Nothing more. After that you get the ballot to every election until you're off the registration list (i.e., you die, or move to another state) unless you instruct them to stop. So, what difference does it make?

 

so no answer

 

Well, maybe I just missed it. I have no idea what you mean by "gaslighting."

 

there are 3 branches of government. None of them is the USPS. Here starteth reality.

 

My, that is some ego you have. OMG

I am VERY familiar with your post of the past and they all have one thing in common. Non nonsensical and littered with ridiculous opinion, which you have convinced yourself has some great merit and something everyone should hold in high regard.

But you seem to have enough regard for yourself for everyone to bow out of your self proscribed level of academics. Personally I don't put you on ignore for entertainment reasons as most people seem to provide a lot of likes to my responses of your continued provisions of self admiration and fake foundational attempts to hold yourself above the crowd.

Your profession of why you have so many people putting you on ignore as some higher level debate skill set really says it all. Not to mention you have been reciting this same post dozens of times for the year I have been here seems to show you have it copied in a desktop file so you can paste it when ever you are losing an argument. Pretty telling in itself.

The actual pomposity and brazenness it takes to make such a claim of yourself in a forum is just bizarre in itself.

Perfect example, You have convinced yourself that owners living on their own resorts are considered occupying guest suites?

I'll just leave it right there as that alone speaks for itself.

 

Which branch of government is the Army?

 

I'm sure you don't.