Why vote by mail is as secure or maybe more secure than in-person voting

I've been through it in the last few days with others on the site. A lot of the complaints are based on state rules being strict. Then change the state rules. And as I have said throughout, if it is safe to go to Walmart with a mask, it is safe to vote with one. In places where there are typically long lines, find a way to spread that out. Have say a 90 minute seniors only in the morning. Extend voting hours. Allow early voting. Giving the USPS $25B isn't going to change any of these problems. And the reality is that for most people that mail in vote is going to be mailed from within the same city or county as the registrar. Color code the envelopes so somebody can yank them all up throw them in the bin, and send them all in at once without the need for highspeed computerized sorters.

 

WTF?

You actually believe that the USPS is a for-profit business? When I said that, I meant it sarcastically. Never dreamed anybody would actually believe that the USPS is not part of the Federal government.

My God! This is why this country is in trouble. General education has gone down the drain.

 

As your response proves.

 

Note the bold print, especially the oversize bold print, which implies that our taxes pay for the post office.

 

Of course you do. Because making it easier for more people to exercise their right to vote means more votes against Trump.

 

not at all..i like people requesting a balllot is they want one because it’s safe and protects the election. That’s why dems oppose it generally...i am glad you share the president’s view though

 

you didn’t know about the 1970 Postal Reorganizatiom Act? where the postal union got its demands and became independent?

 

Ah! I see your point! And I kinda agree with it. Because Trump, who lives in New York, is going to cast his vote in Florida, where he doesn't even have a home address.

Yes, that is in the court system. Of course, the governor of Florida is Trump's lapdog, and so is the State Attorney General. But if he continues doing this, the statute of limitations continues extending. So we'll see.

However, I don't think that Trump's vote is going to flip an election. And anybody doing the same and who doesn't have the governor of Florida as their lapdog do risk going to prison. Not many are willing to risk that for one lonely vote. This is why the number of people who actually do it is infinitesimal. Regardless of what the invisible green elves flying behind your back tell you, you'd have to be almost as stupid as Trump to attempt it.

 

Vote by mail is rife with opportunities for fraud and if you are too lazy to go out and vote, if voting is that unimportant to you, then you probably shouldn't be voting anyway.

 

He legally changed his home address to Florida over a year ago.

 

What the hell? What the bold print says is exactly what it says. That the postal service is part of the Federal Government. It implies that it is not a for-profit business. Not only does it imply this. My post says this!

As for our taxes paying for the post office... Of course they do! They pay for it when the postal service income is unable to cover it. It's in the Constitution! Because... all together... it's part of the Federal Government. Do you know of any for-profit business in the Constitution?

And since you still haven't stated a point, I assume that, as usual, you don't have any. Why waste our time when you don't even have a point?

 

Hah!! So you read that it had become an independent Agency, and you thought that meant that it was "independent of the Federal Government". You actually believed it was now a private for-profit business. That is hilarious!

 

did i say that? no what it means and you apparently were of is that it’s independent of the executive branch and that it makes its own money

 

The post office is supposed to be an independent agency. It is non-profit, but it is supposed to be self sufficient. Even though their retirement comes from the US government, the postal service pays into the federal government. As my link indicated, the post office has been mostly self sufficient since the 1980s and that is the way it is supposed to run.

 

I agree. In Ohio, Dems in the inner city get 22 days to vote to the 1 day the burbs and rural precincts get and who will be complaining?

 

In person voting. There, fixed.

 

Wrong lol OMG
USPS is not funded by the Federal government or tax payers. If they were, you wouldn't have to buy stamps or pay postage. The Postal Service receives NO tax dollars for operating expenses and relies on the sale of postage, products and services to fund its operations.
Always has been, Always will be. They are a for profit business. Where did you EVER get the idea they were non profit. lol

USPS also runs a massive retail operation in the form of 31,000 post offices and another 4,000 contractor-run mail shops, each with their own overhead costs and profits.

Any money provided to USPS from the government would come from Congress, Not Trump. Funny how you wouldn't know that.

The agency has 300,000 fewer employees than it did a few decades ago. Still, USPS has 500,000 employees and 600,000 retirees who receive health and pension benefits. Thus, the agency’s compensation costs rose $2 billion since 2015.

Why is the United States Post Office, which is losing many billions of dollars a year, charging Amazon and others so little to deliver their packages, making Amazon richer and the Post Office dumber?

There is NOTHING in the constitution about providing free mail or paid mail services. That was quite the reach in itself.

 

Not as lazy as you are to point out what those "opportunities for fraud" are.

 

No. He changed it illegally.

 

No. It doesn't mean that either.

Why do so many right wingers think that talking about things they know nothing about does their arguments any favors?

Every time you say nonsense like this, what you get is less credibility for everything you say. So even if one day, by pure chance, you were to get something right, your credibility would be so tarnished that it would make absolutely no difference.

Myself... not that I'm never wrong. But people know I try to be as accurate as I can. You, and most right wingers, don't even try. They just don't care that they are proven wrong again and again... And that's amazing to me.

 

"The September 2019 registration application listed Trump’s legal residence as 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW, the location of the White House. That created a potential problem for Trump: Florida law requires voters to be legal residents of the state. A month later, Trump resubmitted his application to use a Florida address and in March he voted by mail in Florida’s Republican primary."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elec...ida-using-an-out-of-state-address/ar-BB14YXBa

 

You can't avoid exaggerating. Do you have one iota of evidence that "most right wingers, don't even try."?

You realize, of course, that when Trump says something like that, the left adds it to their list of lies?

 

well you tried and failed here.

i am 100 percent correct

 

This entire thread is a waste of time. Trump is going to trounce Biden and the democrats will not be able to manufacture enough fake mail in votes to win anyway.

 

Unknown number of people handling the mail in ballots in a hectic warehouse. What could possibly go wrong?