Why vote by mail is as secure or maybe more secure than in-person voting

Sucks for the people who don't care enough to show up to vote. That is their problem, not mine. If they can hike down to Walmart with their stimulus money, then they can mask up and hike down to their polling station.

 

I know, I know... And the fact that we don't see Hillary's child sex trafficking rings doesn't mean they don't exist. And that fact that you don't see invisible green elves that fly around behind your back doesn't mean that they're not there. And the fact that you're paranoid doesn't mean that they're not really out to get you.

You have provided the perfect illustration of the nutty QAnon Conspiracy Theories.

 

Funny how you never actually prove me wrong.

 

I think the real issue is that he is only against this process in places where the mail in vote will be an ABT - Anybody But Trump

 

yes and we don’t have to see evidence of lack of green cheese to know that the moon is actually made of rock

 

Then you fix the problems

 

No his bestie is doing it for him



this in and of itself is a problem

 

Right. Right and we know no one would ever commit voting fraud, given the opportunity.

I am of the philosophy of not giving them the opportunity, even if the chance is remote.

This election will be contested by one side or the other or both. I would prefer we not make it any more complicated than we have to.

 

IDK. The first articles I saw about it were places like Iowa which isn't even close to a blue state. I just see so much pointless drama and flat out lies and mischaracterizations related to this issue. The USPS is in deep deep doo doo financially. It is a massive organization and this kind of stuff has been going on awhile.

 

Do you believe that Floridians have some sort of exceptionalism privilege?

 

That's hilarious!

You would actually expect me to prove that invisible green elves are not flying around behind your back?

Priceless!!!

 

Did I say anything about invisible green elves? Just another way for you to avoid saying anything meaningful.

By the way, the title of this is silly.
"Why vote by mail is as secure or maybe more secure than in-person voting" How much more secure can you get than seeing your ballot printed out and being rolled up inside the voting machine?

 

Financially? Where did you get the idea that the USPS is a for-profit business? It's a service! A service for the people which is enshrined in the Constitution? When has anybody questioned how much money the Supreme Court produces? Or the White House? Or Congress?

The only finances in this country are the finances of the people! They pay for all this! When the USPS is in financial trouble, the White House is in financial trouble, so is the Supreme Court, so is the prison system,... so is every single part of the federal government. Because the postal service IS the federal government. So if they are not getting what they need, it's the person in charge who is to blame. Guess who that is... Hint: it's Trump!!!

 

Dems like the type of voting where they can cheat.

 

You really need to read up on the USPS. I normally don't recommend Wikipedia as a source, but they usually have a story you can follow and are reasonably accurate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service

In particular: "Since the early 1980s, many direct tax subsidies to the USPS (with the exception of subsidies for costs associated with disabled and overseas voters) have been reduced or eliminated."

 

More democrats screaming pointless ****. How shocking. The post office is not a branch of government. It is an independent agency that is self-funding by law. Were you screaming disenfranchisement when they shut down 100's of branches when Obama was President? No. They averaged 100 closures a year for decades, hit a lull, and resume closing locations. Sometimes they replace them. Sometimes they don't.

 

No it's not!

Look... if you want to be wrong, the easiest way to do that is to repeat what Donald Trump says.

 

Yes it is. In the vote by mail being proposed, they are going to send out the ballots whether they request them or not. Anyone on the voting rolls will get a ballot, not longer how long they have been dead or living out of state.

In absentee voting, you have to request a ballot. At least some sort of living being requests it. However, I am not all that impressed with absentee ballots either.

 

Nonsense! What Trump has been asking for is to defund the Post Office to stop people from voting by mail.

An attempt to undermine voting in a Democracy is always the first step in building a dictatorship. And this is what you are defending. And the sad part is that you do that unwittingly.

 

Voting by mail refers to how voters vote. Independently of whether everybody receives their ballots or not. People who get their ballots in the mail can choose not to use them and vote in person instead. Makes no difference if they requested them or not. So I think it's a great idea to give everybody the choice.

You in particular have fallen so deep into the Trump conspiracy theories it's just... unbelievable....

 

no he hasn’t

the only people wanting to undermine voting are the folks that want universial mail in voting...look at the NV law, look a Cuomo in NY suppressing votes of 1000s, tragic

i do like that you agree with trump and want people to have to request an absentee ballot

 

They are essentially doing just that (begging for money) by expecting the USPS to handle it.

I don't think the argument has ever been about whether states may or may not vote by mail, but rather the ones who want to start now don't have the infrastructure in place and can't get it in place before november. They want FedGov (Trump) to make it happen for them.

 

Sounds like a good reason to vote in person.

 

Right. Dead or alive. In state or out.

 

What does that have to do with what I said.

Don't just send unrelated links. There's a reason why the forum rules say that links are meant to support your point, not to make it for you. So what the hell is your point? And I'm referring to a point that has to do with what you are responding to. Don't just go into mystical divagations. Refer to what you quoted from my post.