Why was 2 elementary schools built in the same path as 1999 Tornado

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  1. Mac-7

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    Saving children is my idea.

    The public education monopoly is liberal's pet project.

    I want to build the shelters.

    It's liberals who are resisting the idea.
     
  2. PRAIRIEOUTLAW

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    It has NOTHING to do with being afraid to let go, and everything to do with what people choose to teach for.... Yea sure there is the money... Everyone has to have that, but you can bet your sweet a$$ that isn't what the MAJORITY of good teachers are there for....

    What kind of work do you do by the way?
     
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    The two are not unrelated.

    The school district has a limited amount of money and must allocate funds from that pot of money.
     
  4. CRUE CAB

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    If it cost $5 million to build a school plus another $5 million to make sure its a safe as humanly possible.
    Thats a drop in the bucket to our national budget.
    We have money to cover shortfalls the world over. Yet we cannot, or will not, protect our children here at home.
    Go nuts and get a gun? Decide that shooting up the local elementary is a good plan? Go ahead. No one wanted to spend the money on hiring local PD or certified armed guards.
    Another killer tornado come through? Na, never happen. Hit the school? Na, were good.
     
  5. Mac-7

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    OK.

    What are the majority of the bad teachers there for?
     
  6. potter

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    Many of those public sector employees gained an education and work hard for a living. Why do you want to treat them as second class citizens? Why do you want to insult their hard work by underpaying them? You want a professional teaching your children don't you? You want a professional firefighter or poilice officer don't you?

    Your pay is pulling money from your employers pocket, how about if he felf the same as you and made you work for paltry insulting wages.
     
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    So who's going to pay for those shelters? Conservatives sure as hell don't.
     
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    I don't want to pull the government teat away from the public teachers.

    Particularly the few who work hard and do a good job.

    But I do want to protect the children.

    And the money has to come from somewhere.
     
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    Liberals?.....resisting spending money?.......whabuhwho?.......:eekeyes:

    What do you mean?
     
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    We are paying for them through taxes.

    It is not the public teachers money.

    It's the taxpayers money.

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    It is the liberals who do not want to build shelters for the kids if it takes money away from the public teachers.
     
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    Completely correct, but by law salaries are pretty much set. I mean the amounts are set and how many teachers are needed is set. That is non negotiable. You can't for example say "well forget the law about no more than 22 kids in a classroom , we have to fire some teachers to allocate more money towards building"

    No instead what you do is try to get a school bond passed to make up the difference.
     
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    It's a job, not a teat. You imply those teachers do nothing to earn their pay.

    I suspect though in your case perhaps they didn't.
     
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    Ummm, all of Oklahoma is a tornado prone area.
     
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    Salaries are not mandated by law.

    Neither are the number of students per teacher.

    The school board has the final say on those things.
     
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    Its not a liberal or conservative thing. Its a thing about saving lives. Pretty simple.
     
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    Like tornados having random paths od destruction is over your head?
     
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    If you're going to paint the entire profession off the bad behavior of a few bad apples, then all white american males are genocidal manics who should be locked up forever.
     
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    Are you telling us that NYC is the only place in America with bad teachers?
     
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    When my wife was in the classroom, she taught math during NCLB, and had great test scores (80% + of her students made adequate yearly progress). She didn't work in the summers, except for working on her admin certification. I taught with state level high stakes testing. I understand that part of it. It hasn't changed that much.

    The salaries I posted are average for the U.S. as a whole. I guess you chose the wrong state to work in. I taught. I know the truth, stop the B.S. Yes, teachers work 50+ hrs during the school year--that lessens as they get experience--lesson plans and grading get quicker the more you do it. When I started teaching, it took me about 6hrs to plan instruction for three courses each week. After 3 yrs, it took about 3 hrs. After 5 yrs, down to about an hour and a half. Any teacher that is not getting efficiency with experience deserves to misuse all that time

    The holidays and summers make up for that. I miss that part of it.
     
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    Dont look random to me.
     
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    This entire thread is cruel. No one knows where a tornado is going to go. There are Indian legends about where they will not go. Topeka, Kansas would never be hit because of Burnett's Mound. Emporia, Kansas would never be hit because it was in the fork of two rivers. All over the nation, there are such legends or superstitions. Tornados hit where they will. You are confusing Tornadoes and hurricanes which are far more predictable. Why any one is allowed to rebuild in tidal ground along most of the Gulf Coast is a far more interesting question.
     
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    And you are confusing me with someone else.

    The tread headline mentions the 1999 path of a tornado but I've had very little to say about that.

    Since we don't know where the next tornado will touch down I think the public schools should have underground shelters for the kids.
     
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    Then shut up about taking money from teachers to pay shelters. Maybe they should've paid your teachers more.
     
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    With this logic we can also ask the question "Why would anyone build in an area called "Tornado Ally"?" Some cities or towns have no other choice than to rebuild like that. Its part of the human spirit to rebuild in the ashes of a tragedy.
     

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