Why was 2 elementary schools built in the same path as 1999 Tornado

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  1. PRAIRIEOUTLAW

    PRAIRIEOUTLAW Member

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    Bring that study on.... Your still talking... Your proving my point.....
    What do you call a person that just got tried by a jury? Someone that was tried by 12 people that weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty.... Same thing applies to most people that partake in those lame a$$ studies and surveys....
    Then people like you are gullible enough to believe it.
    Studies can be made say whatever a person chooses to make them say..... If you had gone to grad school you would know that....
     
  2. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish more of the gun rights posters on this site were more like you, and there is no reason to stereotype anyone like that.......but it's temping, and the existance of this OP is an example of posters who are not like you.
     
  3. LivingNDixie

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    The tornado in question was an EF4, not much survives those kinds of winds. Only safe place is out of the path of it.
     
  4. Really People?

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    It was and is still stupid...
     
  5. dairyair

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    If it bothers you that much. How about not living in tornadic prone areas?
    Why must it be someone always needing to save/protect someone else who chooses to live/work/play where they want. You don't think they knew about the risks?
    Not trying to downplay this, just wondering why you think everything must be 100% damage proof. At what cost?
     
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    I'd expect it would be a costly thing to do...

    Exactly...
     
  7. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Teachers make about 5/6 of what professionals with similar educational backgrounds make. Interestingly, they also work that much out of the year. Teaching is a 10 month job, paid out over 12 months. The shortage of good teachers is caused, not by salaries, but by working conditions.
     
  8. dairyair

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    Oh so you're a big gov't protect everyone from everything in life.
    Cradle to grave? Big brother will take care of you.
     
  9. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Almost every part of the country is prone to some kind of natural disaster. Nor-easters in New England often kill a dozen people. Heat waves in the Northeast often do the same. California has earthquakes and brush fires. The Gulf coast has hurricanes.
     
  10. LivingNDixie

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    The cheapest shelter I have seen that works is burying a school bus underground and then having a hatch made from the vents on the roof that allows people to climb into it. Don't laugh it works.
     
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    That's a very Libertarian way of looking at it.

    Almost every area of the country has some sort of potentially deadly inclement phenomenon. Earthquakes, hurricanes, floods, and so on. Here in the Sacramento Valley, we have floods and even the pea soup fog kills people almost every year because of the accidents it causes.

    Stuff happens, and hindsight can be vey annoying if misused. Part of a huge problem for me in modern times is the requirement to insure so many things at great expense.
     
  12. dairyair

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    Holy Sheet. You hijacked your own freaking thread to turn this into political finger pointing.
    Taking a tragedy and playing politics. How low must one be to do such a thing.
     
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    Hey, just pressed a question. Sorry you are so easily offended.
     
  14. CRUE CAB

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    Money is no object, really it isnt. We (this country) prove that every day all over the world.
     
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    You and I don't always agree, but the timing is just not right.
    Unfortunatly, we can probably expect a few fringe righties like Hannity or Rush to blame Obama for this tragic event just as soon as those poor souls are laid to rest.

    But now?.....today?.......really?
     
  16. PRAIRIEOUTLAW

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    Sorry to inform you but teaching is NOT a 10 month job for the GOOD teacher... Most teachers that are GOOD, will work far more hours in the 10 months that they are actually at the school than ANY professional regardless of their education. Then during the summer there is still other things that are to be done in preparation for the upcoming school year, not to mention all of the sports or other sponsorships that teachers usually participate in and many of which do so without extra pay. If you have never been a teacher its hard to understand.

    As for the 5/6 pay thing.... I again disagree. If you go by mean salary then yes you might figure it that way, but mean salary doesn't break out the administration pay (since they are still considered educators but their pay is WAY more than the classroom teacher)
     
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    I am no expert on Tornado's- but other than being in the general 'Tornado Alley'- which covers several states'- I am not aware of any statistical likelihood that a tornado will hit the same area again.

    Excellent question- and something Oklahoma should be asking.


    Excellent question and something Oklahoma should be asking.

    I am not sure what you think the Federal government can or should do- States and local communities set building standards, including tornado shelters.


    Before calling for new standards- lets find out what worked- and didn't work from this tornado.


    Because we let people live in Tornado country?

    This is a tragedy but there is no way to completely avoid it if people live there- we can strengthen buildings, build shelters- but this tornado was a monster- people were going to die if it hit an urban area.
     
  18. PRAIRIEOUTLAW

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    Yea I just read that a few minutes ago... It really wouldn't have mattered what kind of building they were in.... A true sad event no matter how you look at it.
     
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    Because Obama did it.

    Is that the answer you're fishing for?
     
  20. CRUE CAB

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    Underground shelters. Why didnt at least every school have one or more that could hold children and teachers?

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    Um, I know. No more that Bush was to blame for Katrina. But he got plenty.
     
  21. CRUE CAB

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    This was avoidable. There is money for it. We as a nation just blow it everywhere else in the world. Currently fighting wars that are also avoidable for us to be involved in.
     
  22. PRAIRIEOUTLAW

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    I'm definitely not arguing the idea of having shelters.... At least not for those areas that are so prone.... I was saying it wouldn't have mattered if the students were at home in a well built (or poorly built) home or at school that was built to specs for the area and I'm sure have codes that require additional support due to the high possibility of severe storms.
    With a storm like that, the ONLY place you would be safe is in a shelter.
     
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    you have severely over estimated no clue cab. lulz
     
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    And we have known this for decades if not longer.
    Why at least are not schools built with shelters underground for this type of event?
    Its not even really a republican or democrat question.

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    You post that and say I have no clue.
     
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    LULZ I'm just giving you a hard time.
     

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