Zimmerman Trial (Monday July 1st) ~ Continued...

I posted both the Zimmy police vids on page 1 ... this was so nobody can claim stupid ... LOL

 

Serino told the FBI that he was pressured into charging GZ.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/99942204/Serino-s-FBI-Interview-2-Pges-1

See page #2 of the FBI report at above link.

GZ's civil rights were violated by the Sanford PD and probably the state of Florida for political reasons. This case is far from over with a not guilty verdict imminent.

 

who is claiming stupid? although i have to say there are alot of stupid claims by trayvonites.

 

Nice. . .NOW you may want to go look at the definition of "ATHLETIC" and its synonym "FIT."

 

Pressured by whom. . .since he is the one who signed the first report where the recommendation was MANSLAUGHTER with unnecessary use of deadly force (782.11)?

 

Bwaaaaaaaa good to see a honest poster.

 

See another issue is he was questioning the cop about her mannerisms why did you move this side with your gun etc. Why did he ask that question if he wasnt crafting. That was information he was missing that he could piece together what he needed to do. That question of the officer is strategic. This might be controversial but I admire Zimmerman in the fact that his thought process can be an adversary to mine. I always say that intelligence isnt what you know but how you apply what you know and he in the instance of saving his life is a genius. Good job Zimmerman I can only bight the ankles of your story. But I do believe more so that he is guilty because i know what the jury doesnt. Like he lied to the judge about money etc....

But I also want to speak to the people who believes Trevon Martins GF was a liar. You believe Trevon said the n word and the c word yet dont believe the rest of her story? Talk about pick and choose hypocrites I DONT LIKE THEM

 

No need to even go there.The FBI had no right at all to become involved in this.
NONE. Plain & simple.Originally the F.B. I. was used for only certain cases like
nationally wanted crooks as Bank robbers,acting Interstate and gangsters
operating within states like Al Capone.
Eric Holder's DOJ has leeway with determination within the F.B.I.
That is why an F.B.I. investigation was authored.To use the F.B.I. as
agents looking for any sign of Zimmerman as some Racist.That would then
warrant him as possible suspect under the civil rights arm of the DOJ.
This was a choreographed attempt by Eric Holder's DOJ at the
behest of probably Obama to use every means necessary to make this
a racial case and implicate Zimmerman at any cost.
So they couldn't meet that burden,because there is absolutely nothing
in Zimmerman's past to even suggest racism.So what did they do.
They went after the Sanford Police Dept. for not charging Zimmerman.
This was nothing short of a mob mentality used by those who like
rely on this sort of investigation.Resulting in the Sanford city
council demanding Sanford Police chief be fired.he eventually Quit.

 

And you may want to look up the word Synonyms.

Nearly the same does not mean exactly the same and "FIT" does not exactly mean "ATHLETIC". I agree that one would expect someone that is "athletic" to be "fit", but that is not always the case. I know plenty of "fat boys" that play softball, golf, basketball, or maybe even play in a pickup game of football. While they play pretty well, they would be the first to admit that they are not "fit" or "in shape" (unless that shape was "round")

 

No, you are right, I just saw someone on Piers explain. You were right. It hurts.

 

According to the FBI report, he was pressured by a Sgt. Barns (friend of Tracy Martin), a Rebecca Villenove, and a Trekell Perkins.....whoever they are.

 

As a vet of many message boards over the years I can honestly say this is one of the worst in regards to the intellectual capacity of the majority of the posters....and the liberals being the worst of the bunch in regards to that.

We have a huge problem....this board is probably fairly representative of the population as a whole which indicates to me we as a Nation have been dumbed down and as the low i.q. types are over producing and the brighter people are having fewer offspring it will only get worse.

This Zimmerman case is not complicated at all....a simple case of Self-Defense that would never have been brought to trial if outside pressure had not been brought to bear on Rick Scott the Governor of Florida...I hope he is held accountable in the next election.

Yet even though it is a very simple case...with the aid of the media the rumor spreaders that pose as journalists...this case became one huge mess...very few commentators could get their facts straight....everyone had an opinion but it was not based on facts of the case or the applicable law...people began to fantasize, to make up stuff to promote their agenda etc. and so forth...thus I will not be surprised at whatever this jury may do...If I could see them....I would probably be able to get a read on them...but as it is...they are a wild card capable of just about anything.

 

IT really doesnt matter the charge the fact that he thought he was guilty of something is an issue. Yet the prosecution are reluctant to say anything to win a case maybe they got an October surprise I dont know but to me they arent asking the questions only moving forward thus far. The only benefit they got from the day is the video not their questioning.

 

You mean that, on the night of the killing, when Serino wrote his report and MADE HIS RECOMMENDATION for 782.11 (Manslaughter), the FRIENDS of TRACY MARTIN pressured him to make that recommendation?

Can you explain how, if Tracy Martin didn't know until THE NEXT DAY that his son was killed, his friends already knew that Trayvon was the victim of a shooting by a wannabe vigilante and were already pressuring the investigator. . .but not letting their friend know that his son was dead?

Yep. . .that makes a lot of sense!

 

CNN : states case dead in water .

 

What about the fact that an unarmed child was shot i really dont want to make this racial. A teenager was shot walking home PERIOD. I think a DEAD young man deserves a day in court because on the flip side whether guilty or innocent questions has to be answered and our justice system on this side of things meaning the extreme is fair when children are involved. (As far as the whole process). Let it be.. the trials not fake its valid and it sets precedents.

 

It took till the next day for Tracy to know his son had been shot and killed ... Lol great parenting ! They sure paid attention when they had a chance to profit off their sons death .

 

Actually, citing this

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10731259213163689148


Agg. Manslaughter of Child not a lesser inZimmerman trial: See Griffis v State (Must allege neglect or negligence)

 

Detectives do not normally file the charges against a person. They usually only recommend to the DA what charges MAY have been violated. It is the DA that decides if charges are filed and if violations are committed. If I were in Scerino's (sp?) shoes, I probably would have recommended manslaughter charges as well and let the DA decide. This way I could not be accused of overstepping my authority.

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Hey, I'm just quoting the FBI report of what Serino told them.

 

I myself like this board .... but that's because I prefer a target-rich enviorment of conservatives ...

 

Believe me, I wish that I was wrong. But I am truly in the belly-of-the-beast here. I am in the Orlando media market. It is far more thorough than the national shows and coverage, as they must maintain some theme of controversy to keep ratings. Down here, its daily news for the last 16 months. Every day I get honest reporting on it.

Manslaughter is the cop-out verdict. Let's hope a few on the jury have some mettle. We know that blacks would convict for sure. No matter what. 95% of them anyway, cause that is how (*)(*)(*)(*)ed-up black culture has become in America. But there aren't any on this jury ..... a small miracle. So it just comes down to any of them being die-hard libs. Cause die-hard libs are equally white-guilt racist stupid.

 

You make a good point and yes you are correct. But excuse me the point i was trying to make is the cop thought he was guilty of something. Yet the defense so far has controlled the witness. The only controversy today is merely from the video right? Yet his recommendation you want to get at in consideration of the questioning. Even if the judge wont allow it you can touch it because the defense opened the door for such questioning when talking about his expertise and opinions of observation. The prosecution has yet to ask the question. That is the significance of that witness who the defense captured when he said I believed Zimmerman. Im interested to see what the prosecution has on the cross. Very much an issue if not answered or questioned zimmerman wins.

 

So what about those claims that once the statements were entered into evidence and the investigators spoke it would show all these inconsistencies and lies? They are testifying, as I and others stated from the start, his statements were consistent both in their retelling and with the evidence. Your entire basis of claiming him guilty has been on these asserted inconsistencies that would be shown. They aren't there. Time to withdraw the assertion.

 

They are not stupid they are trolls one of them is the biggest troll in the history of the board.

Trolling 101. Say something monumentally stupid for instance say that serino said Zimmerman was a pathological liar which is the exact opposite of what he actually said. When posters is point out that you are mistaken repeat it and declare victory. When good posters finaly have enough and call you out for monumental stupidity go running to moderation to get them banned.

You have to understand that there is a group on this forum thay are not here to debate. They play the forum as a game to see who the can get banned. They arent stupid they are just jerks.

 

Hey. You gotta get a grip on the process. The Prosecution will be on "Re-direct". Not cross. And what you suggest means that they may have to go hostile against their own witness. Which seems to be how many of their witnesses end up, where the Prosecution ends up trying to discredit their own witnesses !!! That is how f'd up their case its.

And it won't matter. O'Mara got his dagger in as the very last exchange of the day. And sent the jury off to dinner and bed with one heck of an image. First think in the morning won't matter. The Prosecution was already battered and fried with their latest "star" witness.