Obama's Gay Marriage Evolution is Offensive to God and America

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  1. Montoya

    Montoya Banned

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    Threads likes these are why America is so regressed compared to the rest of the modern world.
     
  2. sammy

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    Wrong! In Muslim countries you would probably be executed for supporting gay marriage.
     
  3. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you need to revisit the "bikini graph" and note how many jobs were LOST under Bush, and how job creation began under Obama. Bush's recession was very deep, and, worse, it has affected the rest of our allies around the world. We have actually recovered better than most of our allies, and every "negatives" that you blame on Obama were triggered under Bush.

    I would think that someone who is so determined to appear as a "man of God" would have the honesty to look at the reality, rather than just take Fox News crap for truth!

    Your sense of "honesty" and "fairness" re: the political and economic climate are a very clear revelation of how NOT to take you seriously on anything.
     
  4. sammy

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    I'm calling you on your distortion.

    Unemployment averaged 5% under Bush.
    Under Obama it has averaged well over 8% according to the BLS.
    The BLS numbers indicate people left the work force (discouraged), producing
    an illusion unemployment isn't as bad as it is,when in fact it's worse than ever.
    The real unemployment rate under Obama exceeds 10% easily.

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    Where we are now as a country where it is OK for government (BLS) and liberal media
    to lie to the american people about the state of the economy. But those still looking for
    jons understand Obama policies suck and the US economy is deteriorating.



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    Whats worse though is wages have decreased for those working, so everyone has suffered under Obama's anti-economic policies.


    The real median household income in March 2012 was down $4,300 since Obama took office in January 2009

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...ster_under_obama_than_bush.html#ixzz1wVICg6OI
     
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    mertex New Member Past Donor

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    God's more angry at those who refuse to obey Jesus "love thy neighbor as thyself"!
     
  6. sammy

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    The Catholic and Protestant Churches give more to the poor than all gay organizations combined.
    They do plenty for their neighbors and even supported free healthcare for all, however silly that sounds.

    However gay groups are an outspoken bunch of elites that want to prevent religious Americans from honoring their religion. Gay organizations also do not give to charity, as they care only about themselves.

    Obama's anti-religious policy has offended God and Obama has lost the 2012 election already.
     
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    mertex New Member Past Donor

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    Who said anything about the poor. Love your neighbor doesn't mean "love just the poor".



    They provide some healthcare, true, but not for all. I think you may be exaggerating there a bit, otherwise we wouldn't have so many people going to the ER for care.

    That's malarkey. They don't prevent me from honoring my religion, nor do they do you. You are being a bit melodramatic.


    I don't know about that, but is this your way to punish them? To refuse them their rights? Charity is supposed to be voluntary, if you are trying to force someone to be charitable, you are just as wrong as they are for not contributing.

    Yeah, well think how Romney's religion is going to offend God. Mormons believe that God had sexual relations with Mary. They also believe that Jesus didn't accomplish his job and was not resurrected.
    Put that in your Christian hat and smoke it mister, if you can swallow that, you are just being hypocritical.
     
  8. Serfin' USA

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    We're not that "regressed". We just have a lot of hangups with gay people.

    We haven't taken it to the Iran level, but religious fanaticism still holds a lot of our population back. You can blame it on backwoodsy rednecks mostly.
     
  9. sammy

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    Romney is not pushing gay marriage, which is
    offensive to God. At the same time Romney is supportive of all people including gays,
    unlike Obama. Romney is obviously God's choice at this time.

    Obama lost and Romney has won, so learn to live with it.
     
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    Just the way the bible thumpers want it here.
     
  11. mertex

    mertex New Member Past Donor

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    Oh yeah, Romney is God's choice because Romney's religion believes that God lives in another planet, that he had physical sex with Mary and that Jesus, not only did not accomplish the task given to him by God, but he was not resurrected. I'm sure God appreciate's Romney participating in that kind of religion.

    Oh, maybe you believe in the same God that Romney believes in?
     
  12. sammy

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    The last I looked - Obama is the Muslim and Romney isn't.
    Romney respects the rights of all people including those that are religious.

    Obama on the other hand is insensitive to Christians, Muslims and religious people
    that are offended by his gay marriage, mandatory contraceptives, etc.


    Obama offends hard-working Americans that would prefer to work rather than collect a welfare check. Obama's destruction of jobs and the US economy is preferred by liberals whom despise America
    and capitalism. Do you understand that military chaplains will probably eventually lose their jobs because they can not in good conscience support gay marriage? It's already happened to people working as JOPs in the private sector. It's very possible and it probably makes you happy.
     
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    LOL!!! Oh man, the right wing talking points and ignorance really works on some I see.
     
  14. Serfin' USA

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    Sammy, alright... we get it. You're trolling us. You were pretty convincing at first, but you can stop now.
     
  15. sammy

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    You know full well the US was founded on a principle that people should be able to practice their religion
    freely.

    Obama has trampled over that principle needlessly. I have heard of people in NY that left their jobs in state governments because they were being forced to approve gay marriage licenses. It was against their religion and NY dosen't care.

    Now Obama wasn't directly responsible at the state level, but he is also influencing them
    via money, politics, etc.

    Gay marriage is just antio-biblical and offensive to God. If you can prove otherwise
    go ahead. I'm still waiting for someone here to be the first to try.
     
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    trolololololol

    Prove a deity exists then maybe we'll talk kiddo.
     
  17. Shiva_TD

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    The founders of America rejected theocratic law and Christianity as the foundation for the United States. They found that theorcratic laws always resulted in tyranny that violated the Rights of the Individual and this is partially addressed in Federalist Paper #10 written by Madison.

    In protecting the "rights of another" Madison was ultimately convinced of the need for a Bill of Rights and he authored the following lines contained in the First Amendment as it relates to religion:

    As Madison correctly noted "enlightened statesmen" may not always be able to segregate their personal beliefs from their actions nor can we even expect enlightened statesment to be at the helm of our government. Nothing demostates this more than the failure of our nation to protect the free exercise of religion in the United States. Since the very creation of the United States the only "religion" that has had influence in our laws is the Christian religion and "Christians" have repeatedly codified their religious beliefs into the marriage laws of the United States denying the Rights of the People to hold their own religious beliefs which may contradict the Christian's religious beliefs.

    Christian politicans in our government have opposed under the law any religious belief that did not share commonality with Christian theocracy in violation of the First Amendment's protections of all religious beliefs.

    The prohibitions against inter-racial marriage were justified based upon statements in the Bible that advocated segregation.

    The prohibitions against polygamy were and are justified based upon Christian teachings against polygamy.

    The prohibitions against same-gender marriage is based upon Christian teachings.

    In all of these cases it was a denial of the personal religious beliefs which violated the freedom of religion as expressed in the First Amendment and all of America has suffered because of it. It is something that many Christians simply don't seem to understand. By violating the religious beliefs of others they are negatively affecting their own Right to hold their own religious beliefs. We we can ban polygamy which is a religious belief of Islam and Mormons then can we not prohibit Christians from exercising their religious beliefs? If we can ban same-gender marriage can we not ban Christians from exercising their religious beliefs?

    It is long since past time for Christians to realize that their prohibitions and objections to same-gender marriage violate not just the 14th Amendment but also the 1st Amendment's protections of Freedom of Religion in the United States. They seek to destroy the very Constitutional Amendment that protects their religious beliefs.
     
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    Romney believes that Jesus and Satan are physical brothers.
    He believes that Jesus is only a god on this planet and that Jupiter has a different god that runs it.
    He believes that when he dies if he is a good mormon he will be the god of his own planet and receive 50 celestial wives.
    He believes that if you leave the LDS church to become a baptist that you are going to perdition, but Hitler who never had the chance to be a mormon goes to the terrestrial kindgom (not hell)
    He believes you cannot worship Jesus because he is the son of Heavenly Father, so you only pray to Heavenly Father
    He believes that a gay mormon will go to the terrestrial heaven whereas a straight mormon who converted to say the Methodist church is going to hell.
    He believes that the garden of eden was in Missouri
    He believes that the Bible has been tampered with so you only should read the Book of Mormon (that's how they trick people, by bringing the Bible when they know they use the other)
    He believes that Heavenly Mother is holier than Heavenly Father--so holy in fact that you can't talk about her.

    So...if "god" wants Romney to be president then this Heavenly Mother is the one that wants that.
     
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    Absolutely. You have the right to practice whatever religion you wish in this country.

    But your rights end at my nose. So your religion should not affect my right to marry any other consenting adult.

    The US Constitution trumps your holy book or any other holy book out there.
     
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    Says who?

    Your so called right also offends God because gay marriage can harm children
    and is inferior in so many ways.

    Think about the poor children, raised in same sex households
    that are denied a natural mother or father.

    If the “gay spouses” seek a child, they must circumvent nature by costly and artificial means or employ surrogates.
    One of the reasons for marriage was to create normal, healthy families.

    Gay marriages can never achieve this goal.
     
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    Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States actually said it.

    Your 'god' only exists in your imagination. Should we allow all imaginations to make our laws for us?

    Nothing but pure ignorance in this statement.

    Study: Children of Lesbians May Do Better Than Their Peers


    Nothing but pure ignorance in this statement.

    Study: Children of Lesbians May Do Better Than Their Peers

    Nothing but pure ignorance in this statement.

    Study: Children of Lesbians May Do Better Than Their Peers
     
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    I think Obama has a right to believe any way he wants. It doesn't offend me even though I don't agree with him on it.
     
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    Obama may not have offended you but he offended God.
    People will vote Obama out of office in 2012 as they should
    for every obvious reason. Divine intervention will be in play.
     
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    Who cares if offened your imagination?
     
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