Obama "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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  1. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe I'll catch it when it comes out on DVD. Maybe not. I usually don't waste my time with bad fantasy.
     
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    Why don't you just admit that you don't know. I mean, the answer you gave tells us that you don't know...but it would look less foolish if you just admitted it.
     
  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we need jobs, we need to rein in foreign outsourcing, so people can work

    we can impose rules on corps (people) just like we do real people... I can't set up a casino in my basement, can't speed to get somewhere faster, many rules, if corps are people too, no problem with making them follow some rules


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  4. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He did. He said it means "that is against capitalism."

    Standard economics textbook definition, about as we might have expected.
     
  5. Anikdote

    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    We never get to get to that point. Instead we have to waste time swatting down moronic unsupported regurgitated clap trap. We'd probably end up agreeing on must stuff anyway. Like the President breaking his campaign promises RE: the Middle East and the war on drugs.

    So in other words there hasn't been one single socialist policy and your jumping to a radical conclusion based on absolutely nothing. Got it.

    In fact there's been quite the opposite of socialism, the continued crony capitalist crap that rescued AIG and GM.

    No one other than those already brainwashed are going to see 2016, it's the republicans version of a Michael Moore movie and I didn't watch that junk either.
     
  6. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you think there is only one form of socialism? Well it is obvious how little you know. Perhaps try Wikipedia they can help
     
  7. Anikdote

    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    Nope, but not one single one of them supports the private ownership of capital which Barry has endorsed time and time again. It's a stupid meme started by idiot right wing talk show hosts and then parroted by their small minded listeners.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    It's a transfer of one persons wealth, the income they earned and then taxed, to a person who did not earn it in the form of a cash payment. If that is over your head I can't help you. The person who earned has less of it what they earned after it is taken from them, they are less wealthy. Resulting in more poor and a smaller working middle class. But then show me where the government gets the authority to create a larger middle class, evem if it did, by taking the wealth of one person and giving to another.

    Else explain where you think the wealth comes from.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    Limiting how much capital in private ownership as is the case in socilist countries. Just as the Dems were agreeing with at their convention, banning or limiting profits. You know having to much of the pie is unfair so it is governments roll to redistribute it.
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    No those are called unsupported declarations, what specific subidies are you talking about getting rid off.

    So in other words you don't know you are just repeating bogus talking point. Seems to be the case when people get snarky and uncivil when asked to back up their assertions.
     
  11. freakonature

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    That is the thing that I think is so funny about this whole deal. The wealthy are getting wealthier while Obama buys votes with table scraps continuing his cronyism, and his class warfare rhetoric gains traction with the mob of progressive stooges. Obama openly blames the free market for the crash and is applauded for it. The electorate is obviously mostly made up of complete morons. He preaches that we cannot be left to ourselves to decide, and folks actually think that government intervention is going to come out to their benefit, lol. He can fool you into giving away the only power you have, the vote. After that, the ruling class have no reason to follow through with what was impossible fairy tales in the beginning.

    Big government is gonna come in and centrally plan a better life for all of us, bwahahahahahaha.
     
  12. Anikdote

    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    Like who? The Dutch? The Swedes? Neither of them have such requirements, you're talking out your backside. They just have a broader definition of what falls in the realm of a public good, such as subsidizing a college education.

    Nope, just idiotic vote pandering to their equally uninformed base.
     
  13. Pollycy

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    Believe it or not, Sidd, a lot of us arch-Conservatives never wanted the Bush Tax Cuts in the first place, and we would be happy to see the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing things END immediately -- for EVERYBODY! Simply put, Sidd, we're broke! We need the tax revenue -- not in twenty years -- we need it right (*)(*)(*)(*)ING NOW!

    A lot of us want to see a complete, total, ********-to-appetite re-write of the entire U. S. Tax Code so that every single stinking, lousy tax loophole, tax shelter, tax exemption, exclusion, etc., is removed permanently and immediately! I'm not a "1%"er, Sidd, but I probably am a '"15%"er. I worked for every single thing I have, and I paid every tax I was subject to. Don't blame all of us who have "a pot and a window" today just because we worked hard, played by the rules, and had some degree of common sense and restraint from blowing every penny we had and borrowing more.... If you dig down into the truth of the matter, you'll see that it was STUPIDITY, OBLIVIOUSNESS and RECKLESSNESS that caused most of the economic misery people have had for the last five years. And, as long as President Clueless remains in power, the misery will go on and on....
     
  14. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again, it takes time to transition, and if you can't see the signs, oh well, I don't know what to tell you. Go watch the movie 2016, it may help you understand.
     
  15. BroncoBilly

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    Oh yeah baby! I couldn't have said it better myself.
     
  16. pjohns

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    What you refer to as "re-distribution" of the wealth, under President Reagan in the 1980s, was really a return to something closer to the status quo ante, prior to the federal government's implementing redistributionist policies...
     
  17. Anikdote

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    No, you don't know what to tell me because it takes a ridiculous mental leap supported by zip, zero and zilch.

    Meanwhile the evidence that condemns him of being a corrupt crony capitalist is overwhelming. Enjoy the right wing version of a Michael Moore flick, I'm sure you and all the other lemmings will gobble it up.
     
  18. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow, some people really know how to act like a dick.

    I can assure you, I am giving my opinion, not someone else's. My observations of his behavior indicate his desire to fundamentally change America are well documented with his beliefs, and associations. Obama is nowhere near resembling a capitalist, and anyone with an inkling of sense can see this.
     
  19. BringDownMugabe

    BringDownMugabe Well-Known Member

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    Earth to Republicans, our tax code is about redistribution. Romneycare is about redistribution. I don't see Romney saying he's going to be changing either of those.
     
  20. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is a lie told to you by your liberal loon leaders. Taxes pay for police, fire, teachers, and every other public servant for a job performed. Wealth redistribution by Obama is to give all those that are in low paying positions, and those that don't or won't work a livable income. And guess who those loser 47% vote for? Yep, they vote for their bread and butter

    BTW Mr outer space, Romney said exactly that he was removing the loop holes and eliminating Obama care
     
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    Comical. A lie? You do realize there is a tax bracket for income tax, correct? That's redistribution. And it's been there long before Obama took office. And it'd still be there if Romney were elected.
     
  22. Anikdote

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    Like I said from get start. Sick of the meme, it's stupid, not founded based on any evidence and is nothing more than the repetition of an absurdity you heard someone else say. You're not stupid, so if you'd taken more than a moment to educate yourself on what socialism is, you wouldn't be repeating it.

    Saw this coming a mile away, it's the guilt by association argument perpetuated by the talk radio retards. Boortz says it, Hannity says it, Rush says it and yes I have and do listen to them, they perpetuate this stupidity by pointing to a guilt by association argument. It's weak and frankly I expected better.

    One more time. Socialists, communist and Marxist don't pour tax payer dollars into private institutions, they don't bailout crony bankers and private unions. They nationalize them. He had every single opportunity to do exactly that, but he didn't. He's a puppet to the big banks, nothing more, nothing less.
     
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    Then do America a favor and vote for Romney to get us out of this mess, because it sure is not going to get better if Obama stays.
     
  24. Anikdote

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    Yea, like I have some reason to believe Romney who supports the continuation of corporate welfare, farm subsidies, bailouts, NDAA and the Patriot Act is going to get us out of anything. Both of the two shills are puppets, no surprise both of their campaigns are financed by Goldman Sachs, CitiGroup, Morgan Stanley and JP Morgan Chase.

    I hope those ring a bell, they're the same folks we bailed out and the media puppet you pledge allegiance to is in their pockets just like Obama. Take off the blinders man, no matter who wins, we lose.
     
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    The reason people can come off as dicks when discussing this issue, is because we have explained this issue so many times to people, and they aren't interested in listening!! It becomes overwhelmingly tedious. It is especially irritating to people like myself and Anikdote as well, for the following reason. Anikdote and I are hardly of the same mind on every issue(in fact we disagree quite often), but we are both aware that Obama is NOT in any way a socialist. When we point this simple fact out, people claim that we are simply blind because of our partisan support for Obama. Neither of us likes Obama!! So we get to repeat this same argument ad nauseum, with silly retorts and thoughtless responses coming back, and it is really frustrating. I know I can be quite condescending in those times.

    PS. It especially irritates me, because I think Obama is a pretty awful president, but I find myself defending him WAY TOO OFTEN!! Simply because the criticisms some people on the right come up with of Obama, are so absurd and detached from reality that it is impossible not to defend him!! Him being a socialist one of the many examples of that!!
     

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