Obama "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

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  1. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Sure I do.

    If you dont have health insurance cause your poor, you get a wavier and the government pays for you.
     
  2. gophangover

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    Ok, I'll start with $40 billion a year in subsidies to big oil, which makes $100 billion in profits every three months.
    Then there's the billions given to pharmaceutical companies, coal industries, farmers, insurance companies, and hundreds of billions to pentagon contractors.
    $3 billion annually to Israel in foreign aid, $3 billion to Saudia Arabia, $3 billion to Egypt, Columbia, Pakistan, Jordan, Peru, Indonesia, Bolivia, Kenya, Ukraine, India, Haiti, Russia, Ethiopia, Liberia, West Band and Gaza, Bangladesh, and Bosnia all receive lesser amounts.
    And then there's the $3 trillion given to millionaires that was just added to the national debt and destroyed the balanced budget Clinton left office with. That was a handout was put on the backs of all future generations. That's a real big chunk of redistribution.
     
  3. GraspingforPeace

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    Which section of ACA does this?
     
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    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    Did you actually read what the regulations where? No, of course not.
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, are you saying these regulations won't have any impact on smaller businesses? These are costs that businesses must face when dealing with the over bloated bureaucracy Obama has created.
     
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    Of course it matters, if the person is giving nothing in return or is under no obligation for the funds received then it is a transfer of wealth. In the case of a contractor doing work or providing a service or a soldier serving in the military they give something in return. Do you believe the money paid to all government workers including teachers is just a transfer of wealth?
     
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    When did Colin Powell become an economist?
     
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    You see that post down there, PLMV? THAT IS corporate welfare. What you imagine in your head IS NOT corporate welfare. It's not verifiable or falsifiable. It's not even a coherent thought.

     
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    Like what subsidies?

    Like what subsidies?
    ROFLMAO you don't know the difference between a corporation and a country>

    What $3 trillion that was "given" to millionaires?

    You mean the ones Gingrich and Kasich brought about by measures they forced Clinton to sign? The surplus that had been cut in half before Bush took office with the economic slowdown and recession he inherited?

    How so? If you are talking the Bush tax rate cuts, the highest earners not only paid more in actual tax dollars after the rate cuts, as tax revenues hit record highs, they paid a larger share of all taxes as millions at the bottom were taken off the tax rolls entirely. So what on earth are you talking about?

    Is it more important to you that the tax code redistribute wealth or produces the highest tax revenues in the most efficient and least intrusive manner? Do you view the tax system as a way of getting a back at those you envy?
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    So you have not managed to build any wealth? The evil rich took it all from you? My how did they do that? I have mine.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Nope, hes no victim..... Hes not a member of the 47%....
     
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    He doesn't apologize because he doesn't feel the need to. We are looking at a man who has an ingrained belief that Socialism (Big government control) is the best form of wealth redistribution.

    Let's take a look at redistribution of wealth. The American economy has benefited from strong self-determined individualism...WITHIN...the FRAMEWORK of a Representative Republic based on Democratic principles and the absolute deference to a 'Creator' who 'endowed' certain unalienable RIGHTS to ALL the people.

    Self-determined individuals use the resources around them to CREATE objects, structures, businesses, etc. The ONLY role of the government is to uphold laws that WE THE PEOPLE, through our representatives have TOLD that government to uphold. Today we have government absolutely CONTROLLING the economy in an attempt to maintain 'status quo' after their stone-cold FAILURE for the past FOUR YEARS. How is this 'redistribution' of wealth workin' for ya? (sorry, general statement to the mind-numbed main-stream and PBS media consumers out there)

    Thanks for letting me rant...
     
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    Barack Obama is a Marxist... this is just yet another piece of evidence that proves the point.
     
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    Ok, with the divide between the wealthy and the poor being wider than ever....do you really see any evidence of wealth redistribution.....in favor of the poor.

    Get a clue!
     
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    Yeah, no, they aren't, they are regulations placed on specific businesses in regard to specific things. None of them dealing with small businesses.
     
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    It matters a great deal if the person is a contractor who performs a service or supplies a product to the government or an individual who does nothing except exist.

    How dare you equate a soldier to a welfare queen.

    You must be pretty desperate to keep the welfare state going.
     
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    Would anybody like to show some evidence of wealth being redistributed to the poor?
     
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    Earned Income Tax Credit
     
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    With Obama believing in redistribution there is one problem. The money is NOT being distributed to Americans. It is being distributed to other countries that have loaned us money.

    Apparently Obama is too stupid to understand we need massive spending cuts!!!!
     
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    We should never borrowed to pay for a war from the same county that now has most of our jobs. We are now their (*)(*)(*)(*)(*). We are broke, how we think we can have such a large federal government is beyond me. All departments have to be cut. We have to really rethink our strategy the way lower middle income people have to rethink their budget.
     
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    "Redistribution" must be the RNC talking point of the day. I've seen several thread on this over the past couple days.

    The Republicans have been fighting to redistribute wealth to the top 1% for 30 years now. And they have been remarkably successful.

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    We can all be assured that Mitt the 1% Romney will continue that fight. His policies clearly are designed to funnel even more of the nation's income and wealth to the 1%, and himself, at the expense of the middle classes.

    We don't need to pander ever more to the 1%. We need to focus on rebuilding the middle classes and reverse "trickle down" policies. The middle classes are the great engine of spending, and without the middle classes having the income and wealth to spend, our economy will continue to struggle.
     
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    Where and whom do the tea party fanatics suggest we *re-distribute* wealth then ?
     
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    Your question was, "What is "welfare for the rich" and be specific.", not the difference between a corporation and a country. So you are ROFLMAO at your own stupidity. And before you make another dumb remark about foreign aid not going to the rich, it's the governments that receive the money, not the poor people in those countries. Most of that money goes to buy weapons from U.S. pentagon contractors.

    The cons whine about redistribution of wealth until it's exposed that they are the ones funneling the wealth to the rich, and putting it on the backs of future generations. Cons are worse than pedophiles.
     
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    ROFLMAO ok you don't know the difference between people and countries? Foreign aid and welfare?

    And I asked you to be specific which you weren't. What subsidies to big oil, pharmaceutical companies, coal industries, farmers, insurance companies, and hundreds of billions to pentagon contractors.

    And the liberals praise it.

    And then lose all credibility trying to defend it.
     
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    I was specific, you're just too lazy to look up the specifics of the subsidies yourself. If you want to know them look them up, I'm not your mommy. Use your search engine bar. It's called Google.
     

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