hitler didnt have a plan to exterminate the jews

You obviously have never examined the text of the minutes from the Wansee Conference. Although the language used during the meeting is quite technical, the participants clearly desired that the final solution be genocide, although if they were alive today, they would likely never use such terminology.

 

Within five minutes, any intelligent, open-minded
person can be convinced that the Holocaust gassings
of World War II are a profitable hoax.

Fred A. Leuchter is America's leading specialist on the
design and fabrication of execution equipment,
including homicidal gas chambers. In 1988, Leuchter
scraped samples from the alleged gas chamber walls
in Auschwitz, Birkenau and Lublin. Cyanide residue
would be clearly evident on all these walls if gassings
did occur. To his astonishment, Leuchter found no
significant cyanide traces in any one of these rooms.

In 1991, the Polish government repeated these tests to
disprove Leuchter's findings, but they as well found no
evidence of any gassings ever occurring.


The structural integrity of these "gas chambers" is also
extremely faulty. These rooms have ordinary doors and
windows which are not hermetically sealed! There are
large gaps between the floors and doors. If the
Germans had attempted to gas anyone in these rooms,
they would have died themselves, as the gas would
have leaked and contaminated the entire area. Also, no
equipment exists to exhaust the air-gas mixture from
these buildings. Nothing was made to introduce or
distribute the gas throughout the chambers. There are
no provisions to prevent condensation of gas on the
walls, floors or ceilings. No exhaust stacks have ever
existed.

Though six million Jews supposedly died in the gas
chambers, not one body has ever been autopsied and
found to have died of gas poisoning. We have been
shown piles of bodies from World War II, but most of
these persons died of typhus or starvation or Allied
bombings and a great many of those were murdered
Germans, not Jews. Roughly the equivalent of ten
football fields should be packed full of gassed bodies
to present as evidence, yet not one body has ever been
discovered.

The Germans documented everything in meticulous
detail from shrubbery to arbors, but no pre-war or
wartime plans or documents exist that detail or even
mention any gas chambers for reasons of genocide. All
documents ever presented were drawn up AFTER the
war.

Even if we threw away all the evidence and accounted
for every so-called gas chamber, it would have taken
68 YEARS to accomplish gassing six million Jews!

Even The Diary of Anne Frank is a hoax. Portions of the
diary were written with a ball point pen. These pens
were not in use at the time Anne Frank lived.

It is not denied concentration camps existed.
Tragically, many died of typhus or starvation, as often
happens in such situations. There is, however, no
evidence that any gassings occurred for the reasons of
genocide.

Israel continues to receive trillions of dollars worldwide
as retribution for Holocaust gassings. Our country has
donated more money to Israel than to any other
country in the history of the world -- over $35 billion
per year, everything included. If not for our
extravagantly generous gifts to Israel, every family in
America could afford a brand new Mercedes Benz.
Surely the American people would be outraged if they
realized their hard-earned money is being squandered
in these difficult times.

With all this money at stake for Israel, it is easy to
comprehend why this Holocaust hoax is so secretly
guarded. The Jewish name for Holocaust is "Shoah." In
Zionist circles, it is known as "Shoah Business." If
nothing else, this unbelievable coverup demonstrates
the irrepressible Zionist influence and control of our
country. Their only defense against the facts is to cry
out "antisemitic," "Skinhead" or "Nazi," whereas the
majority of those who question the Holocaust are
ordinary citizens...though you would never know it from
the media.

Read more: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm

 

Except we possess the minutes from the Wansee Conference of 1942, where top Nazi officials eloquently yet explicitly substantiated the final solution as a form of mass extermination, or 'evacuation' as they called it. Their intent, based upon projections, was to kill 2,500 Jews/day, 60,000 Jews/week, and 11,000,000 Jews over the duration of the 'final solution'. The only way one could deny this graphic account of this high-level meeting is to prove that this meeting never happened. I await RiseAgainst's evidence refuting this knowledge.

 

JEWS CALLED EMIGRATION 'EXTERMINATION'

It is very significant, however, that certain Jews were
quick to interpret these policies of internal
discrimination as equivalent to extermination itself. A
1936 anti-German propaganda book by Leon
Feuchtwanger and others entitled Der Gelbe Fleck: Die
Ausrotung von 500,000 Deutchen Juden (The Yellow
Spot: The Outlawing of half a million Human Beings,
Paris, 1936), presents a typical example. Despite its
baselessness in fact, the annihilation of the Jews is
discussed from the first pages - straightforward
emigration being regarded as the physical
"extermination" of German Jewry. The Nazi
concentration camps for political pisoners are also
seen as potential instruments of genocide, and special
reference is made to the 100 Jews still detained in
Dachau in 1936, of whom 60 had been there since
1933. A further example was the sensational book by
the German - Jewish Communist, Hans Beimler, called
Four Weeks in the Hands of Hitler's Hell Hounds: The
Nazi Murder Camp of Dachau, which was published in
New York as early as 1933. Detained for his Marxist
affiliations, he claimed that Dachau was a death camp,
though by his own admission he was released after
only a month there. The post-War Communist regime
in East Germany used to issue a 'Hans Beimler Award'
for services to Communism.

The fact that anti-Nazi genocide propaganda was
being disseminated at this impossibly early date
therefore, by people biased on racial or -political
grounds, should suggest great caution to the
independent minded observer when approaching
similar stories of the war period.

The encouragement of Jewish emigration should not
be confused with the purpose of concentration camps
in pre-war Germany. These were used for the detention
of political opponents and subversives - principally
liberals, Social Democrats and Communists of all
kinds, a proportion of whom were Jews, such as Hans
Beimler. Unlike the millions enslaved in the Soviet
Union, the German concentration camp population was
always small; Reitlinger admits that between 1934 and
1938 it seldom exceeded 20,000 throughout the whole
of Germany and the number of Jews was never more
than 3,000. (The S.S.: Alibi of a Nation, London, 1956, p
253.)

http://theunjustmedia.com/holocaust/did six million really die.htm

 

What is the basis for Revisionists asserting there
was no attempted genocide of the Jews?

The linch-pin in this argument is simply that there were
no gas chambers. None. Zero. Nada. There is NO
evidence of gas chambers that an objective person can
find credible. There is growing credible evidence that
what purport to be the remains of gas chambers at
Auschwitz, and elsewhere, are frauds - less believable
than Potemkin villages. There are NO documents, NO
orders, NO planning, NO blueprints, NO photographs,
NO autopsies - NOTHING that is definitively or even
reasonably credible to support gas chambers. It is not
believable that an enterprise as massive as the
extermination through gassing of six million people in
two or three years in a chaotic environment would not
leave behind some physical evidence, some
documentary remains. And yet there isn't any. As
Professor Arno Mayer, the Princeton historian (who is
Jewish), has said, "Sources for the study of the gas
chambers are at once rare and unreliable." He wouldn't
make such an admission if any credible evidence
existed. And he was writing in the late 1980's.

What does exist - as Revisionists are as aware as
anyone - are, by the tens or even hundreds of
thousands, testimonies and confessions. Many, if not
most, of the testimonies are preposterous,
preternatural, not in keeping with the laws of the
physical world. The confessions (were) typically made
by persons seeking desperately to curry favor with their
captors or their jailers, to save their lives and the lives
of their families in the prostrate world of utterly
defeated Nazi Germany. Most are "coerced"
confessions, as in "sign this or we'll pull some more of
your fingernails out. Or we'll turn your wife and children
over to the Russians."

Also existing are testimonies of survivors of the
concentration camps, of camp personnel, of nearby
civilians who had some connection or other with the
camps, testimonies which completely contradict the
notion that massive extermination programs were
ongoing. All of these testimonies are of course
discounted and denigrated because they do not further
Holocaustery. And then there are the aerial
photographs made during the war by allied fly-overs of
Auschwitz and other camps which lend no support
whatever to the Holocaust story.

Why would so many people lie? is the question
invariably put to Revisionists. Some lie because it is
quite profitable. There is no business like Shoah
Business, said one Jewish observer some years ago in
a candid moment. Others lie because it is helpful to
Israel, or for any of thousands of other perfectly
understandable reasons. Lying, or mythologizing, is a
common human trait according to Joseph Campbell.
Many others among the testifiers are not lying. They
believe sincerely in what they proclaim about the gas
chambers, about having seen them, about having seen
the victims, about having seen the smoke rise from the
stacks, etc. etc. They are "honest and true believers"
(as Elizabeth Loftus would put it) in the myth because it
is important to them and to the Jewish people that the
myth survive. The Holocaust has become the unifying
myth of modern Jewry, as we all know. Even Jews who
believe in the Holocaust will admit this if they are
honest. Some people believe in Jesus, some in
Mohammed, some in the efficacy of crystals, some in
the Jewish Holocaust Myth. Revisionists for the most
part are non-believers in mythology.

There were no gas chambers but there were many
Jews who died or were killed. They were executed by
the thousands for opposing German advances toward
the east, for partisan activities connected with that
opposition, for numerous other reasons. Jews by the
tens of thousands died in the concentration camps of
deadly epidemics of disease, they died in the latter
stages of the war of starvation when Germany was
collapsing. (Professor Mayer, a rare historian, has
admitted many more Jews died this way than were
executed.) How many died during the war? A lot. Most
Revisionists would probably say half a million, perhaps
as many as a million. But not six million. Too many
survived the war for that number to be anything but
part of the Jewish Holocaust Myth. If a million did die it
was but two per cent of the total slaughter of World War
II. That's the reality of the Jewish Holocaust. Two per
cent. 98% of the blood bath of World War II involved
other than Jews. Why, Revisionists ask, is almost the
sole concentration today on Jewish deaths? Why has
the Jewish Holocaust become "the" event of the 1930'S
and 1940's around which all others revolve including
even World War II itself?

Continued...

 

The truth about what Revisionists claim, in
summary, is this:

1) The Jewish Holocaust is but one of many
Holocausts even in the twentieth century;

2) THE METHOD: There were no gas chambers and no
attempt by the Germans to exterminate Jewry,
expulsion being very different from extermination;

3) THE NUMBERS: The common figure of six million is
too large by 500% at least;

4) World War II was a slaughterhouse of unprecedented
proportions for everyone involved -- not just Jews, who
made up perhaps 2% of the total fatalities;

5) THE PLAN: There was no Hitler order to exterminate
Europe's Jews. There is no documented instance of
any plans to exterminate the Jews.

In 50 or 100 years, when the Holocaust Myth has met
its proper demise, what Revisionists believe today will
be standard historical canon from which only cranks
and religious zealots will dissent.

Continued....

 

Wannsee Conference?

Is someone a "Holocaust denier" if he does not accept
that the January 1942 "Wannsee conference" of
German bureaucrats was held to set or coordinate a
program of systematic mass murder of Europe's Jews?
If so, Israeli Holocaust historian Yehuda Bauer must be
wrong -- and a "Holocaust denier" -- because he
recently declared: "The public still repeats, time after
time, the silly story that at Wannsee the extermination
of the Jews was arrived at." In Bauer's opinion,
Wannsee was a meeting but "hardly a conference" and
"little of what was said there was executed in detail."
(note 5)
Extermination Policy?

Is someone a "Holocaust denier" if he says that there
was no order by Hitler to exterminate Europe's Jews?
There was a time when the answer would have been
yes. Holocaust historian Raul Hilberg, for example,
wrote in the 1961 edition of his study, The Destruction
of the European Jews, that there were two Hitler orders
for the destruction of Europe's Jews: the first given in
the spring of 1941, and the second shortly thereafter.
But Hilberg removed mention of any such order from
the revised, three-volume edition of his book published
in 1985. (note 6) As Holocaust historian Christopher
Browning has noted: (note 7)

In the new edition, all references in the text to a Hitler
decision or Hitler order for the "Final Solution" have
been systematically excised. Buried at the bottom of a
single footnote stands the solitary reference:
"Chronology and circumstances point to a Hitler
decision before the summer ended." In the new edition,
decisions were not made and orders were not given.

A lack of hard evidence for an extermination order by
Hitler has contributed to a controversy that divides
Holocaust historians into "intentionalists" and
"functionalists." The former contend that there was a
premeditated extermination policy ordered by Hitler,
while the latter hold that Germany's wartime "final
solution" Jewish policy evolved at lower levels in
response to circumstances. But the crucial point here
is this: notwithstanding the capture of literally tons of
German documents after the war, no one can point to
documentary evidence of a wartime extermination
order, plan or program. This was admitted by Professor
Hilberg during his testimony in the 1985 trial in Toronto
of German-Canadian publisher Ernst Zuendel.


http://www.revisionists.com/revisionism.html

 

Notes

1. Globe and Mail (Toronto), Jan. 22, 1992.
2. Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the
International Military Tribunal (IMT "blue series"), Vol.
22, p. 496.
3. IMT "blue series," Vol. 22, p. 496. Globe and Mail
(Toronto), April 25, 1990; See also: M. Weber, "Jewish
Soap," The Journal of Historical Review, Summer 1991.
4. Canadian Jewish News (Toronto), Jan. 30, 1992.
5. See: Barbara Kulaszka, ed., Did Six Million Really Die:
Report of the Evidence in the Canadian 'False News'
Trial of Ernst Zndel (Toronto: Samisdat, 1992), pp. 192,
300, 349.
6. "The Revised Hilberg," Simon Wiesenthal Annual, Vol. 3,
1986, p. 294.
7. B. Kulaszka, ed., Did Six Million Really Die (Toronto:
1992), pp. 24-25.
8. A. Mayer, Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?: The 'Final
Solution' in History (Pantheon, 198, p. 365.
9. Nuremberg document 008-USSR.; IMT "blue series,"
Vol. 39, pp. 241, 261.
10. B. Kulaszka, ed., Did Six Million Really Die (Toronto:
1992), p. 441.
11. Y. Bauer, "Fighting the Distortions," Jerusalem Post
(Israel), Sept. 22, 1989; Auschwitz Deaths Reduced to a
Million," Daily Telegraph (London), July 17, 1990;
"Poland Reduces Auschwitz Death Toll Estimate to 1
Million," The Washington Times, July 17, 1990.
12. J.-C. Pressac, Les Crémetoires d'Auschwitz: La
machinerie du meurtre de masse (Paris: CNRS, 1993).
See also: R. Faurisson, "Jean-Claude Pressac's New
Auschwitz Book," The Journal of Historical Review,
Jan.-Feb. 1994, p. 24.
13. IMT "blue series," Vol. 22, p. 485; Nuremberg document
3868-PS (USA-819), in IMT "blue series," Vol. 33, pp.
275-279.
14. Rupert Butler, Legions of Death (England: 1983), pp.
235-237; C. Hitchens, "Whose History is it?," Vanity Fair
(New York), Dec. 1993, p. 117.
15. See: R. Faurisson, "How the British Obtained the
Confession of Rudolf Hoess," The Journal of Historical
Review, Winter 1986-87, pp. 389-403.
16. A deluxe edition of The Leuchter Report is available
from the IHR for $20.00, plus $2.00 shipping.
17. The complete text of this report was published in
English in The Journal of Historical Review, Summer
1991.
18. G. Rudolf, Gutachten ueber die Bildung und
Nachweisbarkeit von Cyanidverbindungen in den
'Gaskammern' von Auschwitz (London: 1993). See: The
Journal of Historical Review, Nov.-Dec. 1993, pp. 25-26.
19. "The 'Lüftl Report'," The Journal of Historical Review,
Winter 1992-93.

 

First, Bauer is stating an opinion over semantics. The question of whether the January 1942 at Wannsee should be considered a 'meeting' or 'conference' is irrelevant to its substantive proceedings. Second, much of what was discussed was not executed because of Heydrich's insistence on a speedy 'final solution'. For example, much of the discussion over the classification of what is a Jew did not take fold. The calls for a 'final solution' with the constructs of the Nuremberg Laws, advocating by some of the participants, and manifesting in a strategy of mass sterilization, were dismissed. Bauer's comments, henceforth, are hardly invalidating my comments, but are rather enhancing them.

 

Even you admitted the key word used was 'evacuation'.

Case in point.

Keep your opinions about what was meant by that to yourself.

 

Oh, jeez, not another one.
Is stormfront closed for mourning since November 7?
Why are you dragging your ignorant bigotry out here?

 

The moon landing wasn't real either. Same goes for Mars. It's all fake. Never happened.

 

He was not the architect of what happened if that's what you mean, he's not the one who actually planned it, but he still believed in it until the very end.

 

POW camps and the concentration and death camps were separate. german POW's taken after the fall of Berlin admitted that the Nazi leaders had been ordering the deaths of anyone in the concentation camp, which included 9 million jews and 6 million other peoples, mainly gypsies and homosexuals. These camps were in no way connected to the POW camps where Americans, Britsh and Russians were kept. They could not be, since POW camps has to be inspected by the Geneva Convention and the way they treated jews and other "undesirables" was against the regulations of the convention.

 

He did not plan out the details, but he was in on it the whole time and knew everything that happened.

 

Ever read the Nuremberg Race Laws? The took away their German citizenship.

http://frank.mtsu.edu/~baustin/nurmlaw2.html

 

I was going to say something around these lines.

 

And then you have doubts why I am telling that your ideology is nazi. More proofs never.

 

If you're trying to make yourself look like a complete dickhead you're succeeding admirably. Go away.

 

Fred Leuchter is a fraud. Have you watched the video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtjFsbA2SYE&feature=related

Note, especially, the meticulous scientific methods he used in collecting samples. What a f*cking idiot!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phNNXfgskcw

 

He is a miserable human being. This is his way of dispaying how intolerable life has become for him.

 

The Jews weren't "prisoners of war"..

They were undesirables.. like gypsies, homosexuals, intellectuals, communists.. And, the Jews weren't expelled. They were locked up in labor camps.. Forget 'gas chambers'...

When you lock people up in crowded, unsanitary conditions, feed them crap, work them like dogs they get sick and die.

So whether you shoot them, gas them, starve them or they die of disease, you have still committed genocide.

 

RiseAgainst, Ballpoint pens have been around in common use since 1938.. especially in Germany where multiple patents and attempts to perfect the device began in the late 1800s.

 

Fyi............................

 

Ever read 'Mein Kampf', Rise? Apparently not. But don't feel too bad there are a lot of people tell us all sorts of clap trap about Ole Adolph that have obviously never read 'Mein Kampf' or they wouldn't be making those stupid claims about him. Mein Kampf was his master work and in many ways his master plan. It wasn't exactly a best seller which along with the absolute desperation of the German people does much to explain his popularity.

If you are going to Opine about Adolph at least read the book.