Let's see who's who and what's what amongst those who seek to manipulate the United States into a war with Iran- and others The Zionist influence on the American elections was massive. What are Americans doing to prevent fascism and war in the Middle East by way of influencing the Israeli elections in return ?
Influence? Absolute subversion would be more accurate. The US did raise a voice btw, but they were told not to meddle in Israel's affairs...http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...row-strains-ties-ahead-israeli-elections.html
Obviously it isn't- or it wouldn't be influencing American affairs and calling on America for another war on its behalf.
We influence each others affairs. It's called diplomacy. And I haven't seen any evidence that Israel is calling for war on its behalf.
Actually there was no wars while Netanyahu was PM the first time (1996 - 1999), and there's been no wars during his second tenure (2009 till now) either. Looks to me like Islamonazis are terrified to attack Israel while right-of-center coalition is in power. Isn't that what you are in reality bleating about, moon? You don't like a strong Israel, do you? LOL, get used to it though.
sanctions are an act of war. from the azzpac site on accomplishments. Sanctioning Iran Achieving passage of more than a dozen bills and resolutions imposing tough sanctions on Iran during the past 15 years. As the Islamic Republic continues to be the world's leading sponsor of terrorism--including insurgents fighting U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq--and develop a nuclear weapon, America must exert economic pressure on the regime and slow its pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability. in the event some dont realize it, that avitar picture that born j is using is the aipac (azzpac) http://www.aipac.org/about-aipac/what-weve-accomplished This entity is an institution against 'we the people' of america. Many laws, even the confirmation of our most current presidential nomanies must get past the biased sobs of aipac to even be considered. It is this group that will destroy most any politician in america if they so much as say a word against israel. They wont touch me cus i be the goof their whole religion is awaiting; the name holder!
Any chance of violent revolution from inside Israel, you think ? Or is the violence simply confined to the religious crazies and wannabe land thieves ? A self-styled international criminal and ethnic cleanser.
Arabs are killing other Arabs and Muslims are killing other Muslims. The Jews are not at war, Muslims are at war with themselves.
Looks like you should do a considerable amount of reading and try learning the differences between each of those you've mention. Start with recognizing the fact that All Arabs and NOt Muslims, and all Muslims are NOT Arabs , then note - All Jews are not Zionists and All Zionists are NOT Jews .. Also let us know your definition of a JEW - Who/what is a Jew ? ....
I'm just pointing out that the Arabs are killing each other by the thousands in Syria. I'm just pointing out 81 Shia were killed because they were shia in Pakistan. Israel is not at war with anyone. Open your eyes.
But that takes time and thinking. Why do that, when you can marinate in ignorance and have a ridiculous sig?
Israel is at war with just about everybody who supports international and humanitarian law . Israel commits acts of war against its neighbours every single day.
It's better then killing their own though! Like the Shia and Sunni do throughout the Muslim world EVERY day.
American murders have nothing to do with religion. 81 Shia were just killed in Pakistan because they were Shia! Do you see the difference?
Are you seriously suggesting that the Palestinians (Hamas), Lebanese (Hezbollah), Egypt (Muslim Brotherhood), Syria, the Sudan, Libya and Iran support international and humanitarian law? As for Israel committing acts of war every day, well that's just Mod edit insult] even coming from you moon. - - - Updated - - - The Ft. Hood shooting was exclusively about religion. - - - Updated - - - The Ft. Hood shooting was exclusively about religion.
“I will do everything in my power to make sure they never get a state,” he says of the Palestinians. No more negotiations, “no more illusions.” Let them eat crème brûlée." Ayelet Shaked and Naftali Bennett, who are running for the Knesset in the Jewish Home Party. Bennett says, “There will never be a peace plan with the Palestinians.” At a makeshift theatre in the port of Tel Aviv, hundreds of young immigrants from Melbourne, the Five Towns, and other points in the Anglophone diaspora gathered recently to hear from the newest phenomenon in Israeli politics, Naftali Bennett. A forty-year-old settlement leader, software entrepreneur, and ex-Army commando, Bennett promises to build a sturdy electoral bridge between the religious and the secular, the hilltop outposts of the West Bank and the start-up suburbs of the coastal plain. This is something new in the history of the Jewish state. Bennett is a man of the far right, but he is eager to advertise his cosmopolitan bona fides. Although he was the director general of the Yesha Council, the main political body of the settler movement, he does not actually live in a settlement. He lives in Ra’anana, a small city north of Tel Aviv that is full of programmers and executives. He is as quick to make reference to an episode of “Seinfeld” as he is to the Torah portion of the week. He constantly updates his Facebook page. A dozen years ago, he moved to the Upper East Side of Manhattan to seek his fortune in high tech, and his wife, Gilat, went to work as a pastry chef at chic restaurants like Aureole, Amuse, and Bouley Bakery. Her crème brûlée, he declares proudly, “restored the faith of the Times food critic in the virtues of crème brûlée.” Closer to his ideological core is an unswerving conviction that the Palestinian Arabs of Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem might as well relinquish their hopes for a sovereign state. The Green Line, which demarcates the occupied territories from Israel proper, “has no meaning,” he says, and only a friyer, a sucker, would think otherwise. As one of his slick campaign ads says, “There are certain things that most of us understand will never happen: ‘The Sopranos’ are not coming back for another season . . . and there will never be a peace plan with the Palestinians.” If Bennett becomes Prime Minister someday—and his ambition is as plump and glaring as a harvest moon—he intends to annex most of the West Bank and let Arab cities like Ramallah, Nablus, and Jenin be “self-governing” but “under Israeli security.” “I will do everything in my power to make sure they never get a state,” he says of the Palestinians. No more negotiations, “no more illusions.” Let them eat crème brûlée. Onstage, he waited as a nervous host flambéed the introduction: “He loves a good run! His favorite ice cream is pistachio! And his favorite movie is ‘The Shawshank Redemption’! . . . Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Naftali Bennett!” Bennett acknowledged the applause and stepped to the lip of the stage. He is modest in height and wears a plain open-neck shirt and khakis. Like many Israeli men faced with the first sign of male-pattern baldness, he mows his hair close to the skull. He wears a small kippa—knitted, like those worn by religious Zionists and modern Orthodox, but not large and knitted, like those of more radical settlers among them. He looked grave. The previous Friday, the Prime Minister, Benjamin (Bibi) Netanyahu, had gone on three evening television shows to blast Bennett for having declared that he would refuse any order to expel Jews from a settlement. Not that Israel intends to dismantle settlements anytime soon—on the contrary, construction proceeds apace, “facts on the ground” accumulate—but this debating point touched on a crucial matter. Bennett talks about “reviving” Zionism through an infusion of “Jewish values,” including a sense of the sacredness of the land, but he is also a man of the military, and it would not do, as a soldier or as a candidate, to endorse a campaign of disobedience. Finally, Bennett recanted. And yet somehow he felt wronged. “I’ve gone through a pretty crazy weekend,” Bennett told the crowd sheepishly. He reached into his pocket. He took out his iPhone and started to scroll. A banner flanking the stage read, “Something Fresh,” and this moment—a politician Googling for wisdom while the crowd waits patiently—was part of the freshness. “I’d love to quote a wonderful sentence that has been guiding me for years,” he said. “It’s . . . Teddy Roosevelt . . . where . . . ah, yes!” Bennett looked down at his palm and read from T.R.’s 1910 speech at the Sorbonne on “Citizenship in a Republic,” a chestnut reheated by generations of wounded, righteous politicians—including Richard Nixon on the day he left the White House in disgrace. “It is not the critic who counts,” he began. A few Americans sitting near me nodded and smiled. “Not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood.” Bennett looked up with an expression of satisfaction. “That’s pretty amazing,” he said. “In other words, ‘Just do it.’ ” Bennett made his pitch in the American style—autobiographically. He described how he had been compelled to enter the electoral arena after fighting in the Second Lebanon War, in 2006. “We failed,” he said. “Tzahal”—the Army—“failed. It was a draw at best.” Israel had done too little to take the war to Hezbollah in southern Lebanon. The command structure was confused and timid, the politicians were lacking in resolve. “There was a profound problem of spirit in the desire to win,” he said. “Every day at 2 or 3 P.M., I would call through the radio my commanders to suggest this or that and they would say, ‘No, no, wait until evening, we’ll talk then.’ But you don’t win wars by doing nothing.” This was a cartoonish description of the monthlong conflict, but it was a cartoon with political utility: Bennett, who was a member of Sayeret Matkal, the most prestigious outfit in the Israel Defense Forces, projects himself as modern and rational, but also as unimpeachably tough. Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/01/21/130121fa_fact_remnick#ixzz2ILuDe323
I can do quotes from US Presidents, as well. Here is one; Harry S. Truman “The Jews, I find are very, very SELFISH. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs, or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as Displaced Persons as long as the Jews get SPECIAL TREATMENT. “Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political, neither Hitler or Stalin,” Truman continued in a philosophical vein, “has anything on them for CRUELTY OR MISTREATMENT to the underdog. Put an underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian, Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist, he goes haywire.”
'Lollapalooza Israel' collapses as artists said to stay away The Lollapalooza Israel rock festival planned for next summer appears to have collapsed just months after it was launched, and all information about it has been removed from the official website of Lollapalooza, the US-based corporate concert franchise. "As had already been reported in December, many difficulties cropped up over the last few months in recruiting the famous artists to take part in the festival, and the production had also run into logistical and financial difficulties in its attempt to produce three consecutive days of performances at Hayarkon Park in Tel Aviv." BRAVO BDS - - - Updated - - - WORTH REPEATING!
Anybody occupying or overflying US territory would be committing an act of war. So it is with neoZionist parasites.
Not only worth repeating, 'tis true. As a collective group, of course, not person by person. One of my favourite people on here is a Sephardic Jew, and an American. But he has NONE of the anti values, he is honest, decent, never attacks you, doesn't carry a sense of undeserving entitlement, and, of course, tends to be hated on here...by 'Zionist Jews'. He and I get on great, and it's all down to him not having those traits. Indeed, lest he see this, I would love his thoughts (he knows who he is). Whatever happens after Tuesday's elections, American Jews won’t abandon Israel http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/what...an-jews-won-t-abandon-israel.premium-1.494559 Writing in the Haaretz newspaper, Dov Waxman, associate professor of political science at Baruch College and at the Graduate Center of the City University of New York (CUNY), said that the “coming American Jewish estrangement from Israel is a myth. What actually happens in Israel is much less important to most American Jews than what it stands for in their hearts and minds." “Whatever their misgivings about Israel’s political direction are, American Jews are not going to abandon it any time soon,” Waxman wrote. “In recent weeks, liberal Jews in Israel and the United States have been warning that American Jews will become alienated and estranged from Israel if Israeli politics shift further to the right. “These warnings, though no doubt heartfelt, are based on nothing but the writers’ own sense of anguish about Israel’s current political trajectory, and a conviction that this anguish is widely shared by American Jews and will lead many to emotionally distance themselves from Israel. “They assume that because American Jews are mostly liberal and Israel is becoming increasingly illiberal this is bound to undermine the attachment of American Jews to Israel. This assumption is simply wrong. “Israel, for them, is less a country, than a symbol. They care about Israel because of what it represents symbolically — Jewish power, pride, security, and survival. “What actually happens in Israel and what Israel does is much less important to most American Jews, than what it stands for in their hearts and minds. As such, they will continue to care about Israel and feel emotionally attached to it, regardless of which government is in power.” “It is only because they identify with Israel that American Jews can be ashamed of it (or conversely, take pride in it). We are only ashamed of people, groups, or countries that we feel we belong to in some sense — we might be ashamed of a member of our family, for example, but we do not feel ashamed by the actions of someone who is completely unrelated to us. To be ashamed of Israel, therefore, is to be somehow attached to it. “Whatever the outcome of next week’s election, then, the attachment of American Jews to Israel will not be affected by it. This attachment is still strong, despite persistent anxiety about the alleged distancing of American Jews from Israel. This is good news for anyone concerned about the American Jews’ closeness to Israel, but bad news for anyone hoping that the prospect of American Jews becoming estranged from Israel might lead Israelis to think twice before voting for right-wing parties.”
Here is an item, which should be of interest to thinkers.. Israeli parliament set for record influx of Orthodox lawmakers With Israel's election days away, Orthodox Jews swayed in prayer at a meeting of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party, delaying his entrance while politicians waited politely. The image captured a sea change in Israeli politics. Orthodox Jews have left niche parties to join Likud and other mainstream factions, challenging the dominance of non-observant politicians and infusing Israeli politics with religious fervor and a harder line on the Palestinian conflict. Opinion polls predict that religious politicians will end up with a record 40 of parliament's 120 seats after Tuesday's vote, compared with 25 in the outgoing assembly elected in 2009. Two decades ago only a score of lawmakers were religiously Orthodox. While some Israelis rejoice, some in the secular majority fear the trend may alter the identity of a nation which has never marked out the troublesome boundaries between religion and state - and which also has a substantial Arab Muslim minority. Many foresee renewed disputes over the "Jewishness" and the conversion of immigrants. Others fret about further attempts by hardcore members of pro-settler parties such as Likud and the even harder line Bayit Yehudi (Jewish Home) group to rein in Israel's secular-minded high court, restrict civil liberties and step up monitoring of foreign funding for human rights and other groups. "In the long run I see a weakening of the foundations of the state's democracy," said Israeli sociologist Batia Siebzehner of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, citing the track record of Orthodox politicians urging the state to embrace religious law. That prospect horrifies secular Israelis, who do not relish comparisons with Iran, an avowedly Islamic republic, or Arab states where Islamist factions are gaining ground. "NO THEOCRACY" David Stav, a moderate Orthodox rabbi running for chief rabbi in a poll later this year, says such fears are overblown. "This is not going to be a theocracy," he told Reuters. Most religious politicians are "committed to a Jewish and democratic state and don't want to see themselves as coercive to others". Nevertheless, centrist as well as right-wing parties are fielding religious candidates. Netanyahu has made a point of having himself photographed with skullcap-wearing voters. A rabbi has joined ex-television star Yair Lapid's centrist list. Former Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni has tapped an ex-general who wears a skullcap for her centrist party as well. In past elections, Orthodox politicians mainly represented smaller parties focused on religious issues. Their integration into larger parties is helping them to gain more seats in parliament, although Orthodox Israelis are still a minority. A survey by the Jerusalem-based Israel Democracy Institute found last year that 22 percent of Israeli Jews were observant, including the ultra-Orthodox and more moderately Orthodox, far outnumbered by the 78 percent who were non-observant. Yet they may exert a disproportionate influence. Religious movements seeking to expand Jewish settlements in the Israeli-occupied West Bank and deny the Palestinians a state are supplanting once-powerful kibbutzniks as symbols of Israel's self-declared national mission, many experts say. The kibbutz, the collective farm movement identified with Israel's early settlement of the land, long dominated military and political leadership, despite its relatively small numbers. Pollsters say the kibbutz movement may win no seats next week. "The ideological tables have turned and religious Zionists are taking over the national discourse," said Tamar El Or, a Hebrew University anthropologist, adding that the trend was not new, but was now translating into influence in parliament. "RISE IN RACISM" The rise of religiously fired Jewish settlers has coincided with widespread Israeli disillusion with failed negotiations with the Palestinians, compounded in the last two years by Arab uprisings that have brought Islamists to power, especially in Egypt, making its 1979 peace treaty with Israel look fragile. A more religiously-tinged parliament could lead to a "rise in racism, separatism (and) less democracy," El Or said. "It will become more difficult to be a citizen in this country if you're an immigrant, not Jewish and certainly if you're an Arab," she added, referring to Israeli Arabs who hold citizenship and make up a fifth of the population, but who complain of discrimination. For now, Orthodox lawmakers may focus more on promoting Jewish settlements than on trying to enforce religious law, an enterprise that might swiftly anger the secular majority. "If they get drunk on their power or try to push a religious agenda, they may find themselves facing a backlash," said Gideon Rahat, a political scientist at the Israel Democracy Institute. Some in the more liberal Orthodox camp want to heal rifts with non-observant Israelis, especially on the conversion issue - the Orthodox rabbinate does not recognize many immigrants as Jews or the right of more liberal rabbis to convert them. Stav forecast "catastrophe" for Israel if the row dragged on because it would deter immigrants and handicap Jews in any demographic race with Arabs. "We won't survive here," he said. Likud lawmaker Tzipi Hotovely, a pro-settler candidate, said her fellow-Orthodox MPs should focus on security issues and on rejecting pressure to relinquish to the Palestinians "Biblical" land captured by Israel in the 1967 Middle East war. "Our job is to lead a world view of Jewish identity and to preserve the Land of Israel," she said. "We need to aim for meaningful influence, and not be content with supervising Jewish dietary laws." At Netanyahu's Likud meeting, the Orthodox worshippers in knitted skullcaps and prayer vests with white fringes dangling below their shirts, rocked and muttered their afternoon prayers, as their non-observant colleagues waited in patient silence. They were putting a new complexion on the expression party faithful - and perhaps on Israeli politics. http://www.jewishjournal.com/israel...t_set_for_record_influx_of_orthodox_lawmakers There is a really brilliant man, who Jewish supremacists hate (of course), and who is slandered (naturally), and his name is Dr. Kevin MacDonald. Here is a bit about his qualifications; Kevin B. MacDonald (born January 24, 1944) is a professor of psychology at California State University, Long Beach, best known for his use of evolutionary theory to support his claim that Judaism is a "group evolutionary strategy." MacDonald's most controversial claim is that a suite of traits that he attributes to Jews, including higher-than-average verbal intelligence and ethnocentricism, have eugenically and culturally evolved to enhance the ability of Jews to out-compete non-Jews for resources. MacDonald believes this advantage has been used by a number of Jews to advance Jewish group interests and end potential antisemitism by either deliberately or inadvertently undermining the power and self-confidence of the European-derived majorities in the Western world. Using the term Jewish ethnocentrism, he argues that Judaism fosters in Jews a series of marked genetic traits, including above-average verbal intelligence and a strong tendency toward collectivist behavior, as manifested in a series of influential intellectual movements. MacDonald repeatedly emphasizes that he does not argue that all Jews in all circumstances display the traits he identifies; for example, his Understanding Jewish Influence argues that neoconservatism is a Jewish intellectual movement, while in the 2000 US Presidential Election about 80% of the Jewish vote went to Vice President Al Gore, who was campaigning against George W. Bush whose campaign was heavily staffed with and influenced by neoconservatives. MacDonald says that "the organized Jewish community" has been the single most important and powerful group in favor of unrestricted immigration to the United States, and that the community has been acting in its "own perceived collective interests," regardless of whether these are in conflict with the interests of other Americans.[10] MacDonald's main thesis centers on the period preceding the 1965 Immigration Act when strict, country-of-origin based quotas existed, mostly favoring immigration from Europe. According to MacDonald, while most of the ethnic communities in that period were somewhat active in trying to affect the increase of immigration quotas from their own countries of origin (i.e., the Irish for immigration from Ireland, Greeks for immigration from Greece, etc.), only the Jewish community activists were requesting (and ultimately obtained in 1965) the dismantling of country-of-origin quotas and an increase in immigration across the board. This policy shift benefited primarily non-European immigration and had a profound impact on the U.S. demographics in the following decades MacDonald says that Jews opposed immigration quotas because a diverse America was safer for Jews. The primary two traits (conflicting as they are), that he and other peers have determinded (and something I have observed myself, and cannot be denied, anymore)..delusions of grandeur, and delusions of persecution. *Maybe something to keep in mind the next time a red neck goes on about immigration* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald
