Curious...why is it "pro-lifers" (generally) have to lie so much?

For yourself, too???

 

So you aren't pro-life then? Are you going to call your self out on that?

Your words

so that must mean you don't support any armed conflict at all if you truly are pro-life.

 

This is the most childish viewpoint I've ever seen. No one is punishing you for not saying no to sex. It's called the natural consequences of your actions. If you jump off your roof, nobody is punishing you when you hit the ground and hurt yourself. It's simply what happens when you jump off a roof. The natural law of cause and effect. Or as the rest of us call it; common sense.

If you have sex, you can get pregnant. There are not too many people having sex that do not know this. If you get pregnant because you had sex, no one is punishing you. It's simply one potential consequence of the actions you chose. It was not guaranteed to happen, but you knew beforehand that it was a possibility. You assessed the risk and you made your choice. Whatever happens after that is simply nature taking its course.

This is what's wrong with the entire left wing today. They are stuck in this perpetual state of immaturity where they think it's "unfair" to be held accountable for their own choices. They have been taught that weaseling out of things that are hard is the only way to live. And anyone who won't let them do this is bad, mean, or oppressive. They've been taught that anything unpleasant in their lives is always undeserved and they are always helpless victims of circumstance. These people are glorified children that just don't grow up.

I am pro-innocent life. If you want to nitpick about how I phrase that, go right ahead.

 

Then you might find yourself in a debate with those on your own "pro-life" side. Try it yourself. See how many are not just anti-abortion....but anti-contraception as well.

 

Six pregnant women and one member of Al Qaeda in a hovel in some province of Afghanistan and the Al Qaeda guy will leave the shack in five minutes and you've got your hand of the joystick of a Predator drone ready to launch a missile that will hit the shack......

do you pull the trigger?

 

So what you are saying is that we as a nation or the entire human race has become so vile and immoral that one attrocity is better than responsibility? Thanks for clarifying that you believe there is no hope for the human race and killing babies is the best way to slow us down. What next, is your "final solution" going to come forth?

 

Can you imagine what will be next? Child porn? Group marriage? Decriminalize rape? Infanticide?

We are a vile and immoral nation...no doubt about it.

 

no, how sick you would even ask.

 

In your mind maybe, in my mind it translates into their time to step up and take responsibility for their actions. Just as a father would be forced to take responsibility if the mother knows who he is, by being forced to pay child support.

Then why have sex? Its called responsibility for your actions.

Not punishment and only libs that want to kill babies call it punishment.

Not when you are married and trying to have kids. It wasnt my choice that she walk out on the marriage.

 

One of the best posts I have ever read about this. You hit the nail on the head. The LEFT want to blame, everyone is at fault but them. The only way out of the pregnancy for them is abortion, it is the best solution. They believe yes that women should have all the power because it's their body, her choice. But here is where they are hypocrites. The woman has control of her body....but loses it later when they think the unborn all of a sudden trumps her power to kill. Then they put the unborn (who most don't think is human and a person) ahead of her bodily rights...by denying her the right to abort. They can't pinpoint when viability is...some here don't think it matters and gives the mother right to kill all nine months. The fact is they don't value life.

Again great post.

 

I dont know what you are talking about but no, I dont want the tax dollars going there either. Or are you saying they are going there cause the government doesn't take money from them, and in your mind, that is giving them something?

 

What you say is the truth...absolutely. It probably was me that said it. Pregnancy is a consequence for many who have willingly taken the risk to have sex. Not talking about rape here....women know what can happen. It is cause and effect. You do an action that can cause another action to happen. You drive drunk.....you can possibly kill someone. The risk is there. You know if you drive you can be struck by a drunk driver...you take the risk.
Where does the fault lie however? With the victim of the drunk driver? With the male who impregnanted her? The newly formed human being she carries?
Whose fault is it that the pregnancy happened? It's the woman's...it is her body, her choice...she took the risk for whatever reason. The blame the responsibility is hers. It's not so much really fault....but a willing action.

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What possibly do pro-lifers lie about...still don't see it?

The lies are on the side of the ones who want to see the unborn dead.

 

No, it's a test of character and honesty. How "pro-innocent life" is Unifier, when it comes to killing a terrorist?

 

See? Pregnancy is something you receive as a "consequence", if you have sex. And it's analogous to "driving drunk" and killing somebody. Does that make it sound like something "joyful".....or a punishment?

 

You've found that really? I've found that most pro-lifers are men who would never have to make that choice.

The other thing I've found is that there are many pro-life women who become pro-choice when THEY get knocked up.

 

It was also a majority of men who decided that abortion was a woman's choice based on her right to privacy. I think your mysandry is showing.

 

Look at the polls; women are 70% to 80% pro-choice. If a majority of men have decided that a woman has a right to an abortion based on her right to privacy, the issue would be settled. It ain't.

 

It's the woman's...it is her body, her choice...


Once AGAIN you admit that It's the woman's...it is her body, her choice....
and that's why she gets to decide to abort or not....

 

The Burger SCOTUS voted 7 MEN to 2 MEN FOR Roe vs Wade. Clearly a majority and the ONLY 'poll' that really means anything.

 

Why is that sick? It's all part of war....war that you approve of.....many real live babies get blown apart in war....why aren't you out working towards peace???

 

That is true, even if she is married and the husband wants the child. She can choose to summarily kill his offspring without his consent. Feminists think this is a good thing because most of them are mysandrists.

 

YES! And DO tell all your Anti-Choice friends!!!!

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Ya know , that sounds like so much POUTING You have no proof that most fenminists hate men...none...

 

Having a child can be hard for some people. But doing the right thing can be hard. That does not mean that you should kill to avoid hard times. For a young person....having a child could seem a punishment. We punish our kids don't we? And that punishment usually brings about change of behavior.
People who have to lose weight....giving up carbs is punishment for being overweight. Losing your license a punishment for disobeying our traffic laws. Divorce- punishment for the one who cheated..in all circumstance these are consequences from actions done.

A teen mother who gets pregnant....certainly could see their pregnancy as a punishment for their actions. They are the ones who had the sex to begin with.

But punishment....consequences can also bring joy in the end.

 

Here we go again another pro-lifer who wants to twist what is said to suit their own opinion .. I asked you a question, would it be to much to believe you could actually answer it instead of trying to squirm your way out of it.

I don't say anything about there being no hope for the human race, that may be what you believe but hey thats up to you, so now for the second time of asking would you object to your tax dollars being used for any of the things I mentioned .. a simple yes or no will do.

 

its not nitpicking, there is a great deal of difference between pro-life and pro-innocent life, and while we are at it define innocent life?