The real Islam

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  1. Object227

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    I suspect that you are also 'programmed' to hate. I kind of feel sorry for you. If you regard another as your enemy on the basis of non-threatening criticism then you may want to re-examine your own attitudes toward others.
     
  2. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    There does indeed extremists in every religion, but not in the same way as it does with Islam. We don't see buddhists blowing up schools and beheading people in buddhist lands do we, nor do we have buddhists flying planes into infidels? Perpaps there are some small atrocities like that commited by other religions but mostly it's Islam, being terribly overrepresented. I'm not blaming this on Islam per se as this kind of terrorism is a modern phenomena. I think it's just the conservative forces reacting to the modernization of these societies by going into super hardcore reactionary mode.
     
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    LoL : )))) I love non-muslim mentality , do you know why I'm here , I'm here to laugh : )))) as far as going very nice , you make me laugh so much : ))))))

    A non-muslim saying that "crazy muslims bombed bus station , crazy muslims plunged into twin tower by planes , crazy muslims bombed a school" : )))))))) they have a small window , this window is looking into one direction "hatred of islam" : )))))) I wonder before 9/11 , how many militarily intervene did usa to other countries , do you know many , about 120 : ))))) rate of obesity in the united states is %74 while many countries around the world is dying of hunger : )))) non muslim countries always blocked the development of Islamic countries , thousands of civilians killed during the gulf war : )))) many toxic gas used in this war , putting economic embargo has caused the deaths of thousands of children , do you know what Colombia Universty said , 500.000 babies died because of drug embargo between years 1991-2002 . Uranium bombs caused to death of thousands of people . Usa always supported the dictatorial regimes in islamic countries .

    and still I'm saying that I want to be friend : )))) because unlike you I'm a muslim alhamdulillah .
     
  4. RiseAgainst

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    mod edit>>>stop the flame bait, please

    We dont kill each other, you forgot i am a christian. We say things that you are uncomfortable with, then you kill us for how our words make you feel.
     
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    I want nothing from muslims.

    I only want to promise them that we in the west, at the end of the day, can and will out-crazy them.
     
  6. Lien

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    LoL : )))) nice dream
     
  7. skeptic-f

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    I agree with the OP, but I would also say that until the moderate Muslims stand up to their extremists they will deserve the bad name the extremists give Islam in the eyes of the rest of the world. For evidence, I would point to the Pakistan election a little while ago where the extremists terrorized the electoral activities of the moderate parties, ensuring that an Islamic party won big. Where was the push back against the extremists when Pakistan needed it?
     
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    Try respectful debate for a change, and take a look at the rules before you continue. This could be a great thread if you want it to be.

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  9. Validation Boy

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    Muhammed was born and died on a Monday.

    The moon's day.

    Luna, the moon, is the root etymology behind Lunatic. This does not necessarily mean "crazy".

    It just means one who is obsessed with the moon.

    The flags of Islam ALL show the crescent moon and the tree.

    Allah is the same God as Sin, you know, from mount Sinai. The moon God.

    Just a few facts for you, my friend.
     
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    its not islam's symbol : )))) its a Turk symbol , there is no place in islam for symbolism : ))))) Turks were using crescent moon as symbol , they were conquered many places in arabia and africa , in this way it spread at muslim countries . it never used as symbol at time of Hz.Muhammed(Sav) : )))) over time crescent moon started to be perceived as a symbol of Islam : )))
     
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    Need I remind you we didn't used to hate Islam. We (or at least, atheists) used to just see at as another crazy myth that a couple billion people were gullible enough to believe. Nothing new there.

    Then they started blowing people up. Demolishing buildings. Suicide bombers. Crashing planes. Calling for the destruction of entire groups of people (Jews, Americans, etc). You don't see extremist Christians doing this sort of thing almost at all - we haven't fought a war to suppress Christian terrorists, only one to suppress Islamic ones. You can point out all the bad things America has ever done, it doesn't excuse the behaviour of the conservative elements of your religion.

    Not to mention the public beheadings for things like being gay or being raped.
     
  12. Validation Boy

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    The worship of the moon is integral in Judaism and Islam, so it goes back way further than what you claim, with the turks.

    All religion is symbology. That's because all religions, including Islam, are ancient paganism, repackaged every few centuries, to control the minds of sheeplike followers.
     
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    Ofcourse , it cannot be excuses for killing innocent people but a killer cannot blame another killer of being a killer , a thief cannot accuse another thief of being a thief : ))))) This is what I say . Non-muslim terrorist are working at the state level , working at company level , do that make it legal ? Legal Terrorism : )))) LoL , its legal when you bomb peole by war planes , its illegal when someone blow himself up in a bus station : ))))) Justice LoL
     
  14. DivineComedy

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    If airplane with Iranian flag bombs your hood you know you are at war with Iran, and can shoot down all Iranian war planes, by same logic if veiled woman with salami bomb up butt blows up bus we know to shoot down every veiled woman. Do you understand the difference? If not, Enjoy!
     
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    I have plenty to say.

    But everything I have to say concerns the mythology of what you call Islam. And Judaism.

    You don't want to hear about how Abraham, your religion's patriarch is a myth and Islam is the worship of the Moon and Saturn.

    The black cube of Saturn/Cronus lies in the center of your temple.

    The Jews have Synagogues (originally spelled Sinagogue), cause they worship Sin, of mount Sinai, too.

    The Muslims circle around the black cube like the waves of matter surrounding the 6 sided shape, or All seeing Eye on the pole of Saturn.

    Monday, moon's day is Islams holy day.

    Saturn's day, Saturday is Judaism's holy day.

    You guys all worship pagan deities, my friend.

    Oh, I almost forgot about the Silver covered black stone on the corner of your big black cube, which according to Islam..

    FELL FROM THE MOON.
     
  16. Lien

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    Yes I understood your logic in perfect way : )))) This is what suicide bombers does by attacking nonmuslims . Why are you complain about it ? This is war , isnt it , you cant complain about death of people in a war : ))))) So they are not terrorist , they are warriors , isnt it ? : ))))
     
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    Nope , friday is holy day for muslims : )))))
     
  18. DivineComedy

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    Warriors put on war paint so we know not to kill squaw (woman). Muslim warrior wear civilian clothes, we know kill all Muslims to be safe; it is way of High Contracting Party to War. US kill no civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, they all in same uniform as those attack US on September 11, 2001; no international criminal court attack US for kill all civilian clothed warrior with bomb up butt. Enjoy!
     
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    So you killed all people you see in afghan and iraq , because they would be attackers with civilian clothes : ))))) Then Al-Qaeda blew you up because there would be soldiers in twin towers : )))))))) kill all non-muslims to be safe : )))) this is your logic , not mine : )))) Thanks I enjoy so much LoL : )))))))))))
     
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    No YOU and Al Quacka killed all Muslim people in Afghanistan and Iraq, we do not, it was by YOU and Al Quacka putting war paint on civilian clothes and bombs up butts and vaginas and attacking us first; we only responded to your naked aggression.

    I would love for Muslims to stop putting bombs up civilian clothed butts, so we can stop killing Muslims we think have bombs up butts.

    This is bomber who attacks before we go to Afghanistan, all that wear this war paint are targets:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...Atta_in_airport.jpg/220px-Atta_in_airport.jpg

    220px-Atta_in_airport.jpg

    You kill with that before we go Afghanistan; that is your war paint, you wear such war paint we have right kill all such war paint.

    You do not listen, so if you do more, we will be sad but efficient at making you enjoy more of same.
     
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    You're showing your character with slang words : )))) Okay I understand you in perfect way , so you accept that you're a terrorist , then I accept that suicede bombers those who kill civilian people are terrorists . if you dont accept yourself as terrorist , then I dont accept suicide bombers as terrorists : ))))) can you understand me ? try it : )))))
     
  22. Ronald0

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    Would you like to tell you the bloody history of Christianity? The fact remains, Mohammad (pbuh) was the best role model the world ever saw.

    Yes and only you know what Muslims think because they can;t think for themselves right?

    Islam actually gave women more rights than any other religion.

    What total rubbish. You have no idea what you are talking about.

    Then again, how many buddhist countries is the US at war with currently? If US kills any Muslim in any country it is an act of war. If any person from that country kills an American in retaliation then it is an act of terrorism. Do you see the hypocrisy there?

    Despite that, according to FBI stats less than 6% of terrorist attacks in US are done by Muslims. There goes your argument down the drain.

    Yes. The attack on Iraq and Afghanistan and the drones are just a figment of my imagination.

    What new land is Islam taking over?Yes Islam is gaining new converts even in the West. Can you tell me how those people were coerced and provide examples or admit you are just making things up.


    The category you invented because your arguments are not backed by facts.

    Wrong again. Lying is not permitted in Islam but yes everybody lies. Don;t you?
    Lying is permitted in only rare circumstances and furtherance of Islam is not one of the exceptions.

    Translation: I can't make a case against all Muslims or Islam so lets just assume all Muslims must be evil and kill them all. Thats not much different from the arguments used against Jews in Hitler's Germany.

    No my religion tells me that lying is a sin. But everyone does lie whatever religion they may belong to/

    Muslims have suffered more at the hands of extremists and have spoken against extremists more than most people in the West. What would you want them to do really?

    roflma. Are you on drugs? Which Islamic party won in Pakistan? The biggest Islamic party competing in the elections was the Jamaat e Islami and that got just 14 seats out of over 350.

    What scientific journal claims Monday to be the moon day. Islam does not anywhere.

    What flags of Islam? None exists.

    More like illusions.

    Wrong again. There is nothing to do with the moon in Islam.

    What nation do veiled woman belong to? There was an article in the newspaper about some guy commiting murder. He was wearing shorts. So are we at war with everyone in shorts? Or is it just the man in shorts?

    Only problem is, none of that is part of Islam.

    Can you point out to where it says so in the Quran. I must have missed that verse. Maybe because it doesn't exist.

    The black cube of Saturn/Cronus? Wow that;s original. What comics are you posting this from?

    Nope Friday is.

    Actually Islam says no such thing. You are truly delusional.
     
  23. Ronald0

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    No the army wears the uniform for camouflage and so they don;t accidentally attack one of their own.

    Actually at least 150,000 civilians even by the most conservative estimates were killed in those 2 wars.
     
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    We kill terrorists who wear bomb up butt and vagina.

    We are not terrorists; we wear war paint so human being can tell difference between squaw and warrior that is to be killed.

    You stop wearing bomb up butt and vagina and wear uniform and war paint of nation, then we only attack uniform and that nation if we be at war with.

    You make terrorists, we do not. My uniform had insignia to keep people from being squat to leak squaw killer like you.

    You put on veil and blow up. You bomb! All I see, you bomb!

    You want peace, stop putting bomb up your butt and vagina. How hard it to talk to your kind, if at war buy some War Paint!
     
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    How many in Syria?
     

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