The real Islam

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  1. Ronald0

    Ronald0 New Member

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    A friend of mine in Pakistan posted this as her status update on Facebook and it really touched me since this is what I as a Muslims and millions of Muslims around the world believe. Don't let the Islamphobes fool you. There are extremists in every race, nation, culture and the Islamophobes are just another group of them.

     
  2. Diuretic

    Diuretic Well-Known Member

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    Islamophobes get quite confused when Muslims are attacked by other Muslims.
     
  3. RiseAgainst

    RiseAgainst Banned

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    Earlier in Mohammeds life he had a peaceful message. It wasnt until his later years when he became the head of a totalitarian murderous cult. If more muslims ignored his later years it would be a peaceful religion. But mohammed (pieces be upon him) is holy eh, and everything he did and said is like a role model for muslims.
     
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    Yah , according to your sided western sources he was a killer , according to real islam sources he just defended islam and fought agains those who acted virulent to islam .

    : )
     
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    Yeah...

    Like cartoonists...
     
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    You will learn to be respectful , you will learn not to provoke people . Then we will be friends .
     
  7. RiseAgainst

    RiseAgainst Banned

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    If telling muslims how Islam commands them to kill, and that provokes them to kill me then i just sacrificed my life to prove a valuable lesson to those who come after me..
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    This demonstrates why there's a clash of civilizations.
     
  9. RiseAgainst

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    They can believe whatever they damn well please. Their ignorance will be their downfall.

    My words come from the source. You are allowed to lie to non-muslims. All non-muslims who believe muslims about islamic truths are ignorant and naive.

    Hisspanics tend to know very little about the murder cult. I have made dozens aware within my reach.

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    Muslims actually are not allowed to be our friends. Unless of course this friendship furthers Islam.
     
  10. Lien

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    LoL : )))) so you live with 2 billion killer : )))) if you are saying something that attracts 1 in 4 of the world population reaction , this means there is a something wrong here . it dont stop you , moreover you insult things that people respect .
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    mod edit>>>stop the insults, please

    Some people, I guess, believe America is an Empire in the making and is on a quest to conquer the world.

    It's a comically far out notion, but lets assume it's true for the sake of this example.

    Then, assume that frictions between American Conservatives and Progressives increase to the point where members of both sides war with each other wounding and killing hundreds every month.

    Wouldn't the growing Empire still grow?

    Wouldn't members of the two ideologies still be at each others throats?

    End of that example. Now, we look at Islam.

    No matter what the fundamentalists do to the more modern Muslims, or vice versa, Islam is still growing and gaining new converts (but CERTAINLY NOT through coercion :rolleyes: ) and taking more new land.

    An aggressive Islam is our problem.

    About this there is no confusion.
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    It took me a while to recognize an entirely hidden category of Muslim.

    The category is that of Modernized Muslim. The category we'd prefer all Muslims to be.

    However, because lying IS permitted in cases of self defense and/or as you said, in furtherance of Islam, I tended to focus on the belief that all the posters who denied the negative aspects of Islam's practice was lying to help the 'religion' expand.

    Well, now I believe many, maybe, most Muslims on these pages are interpreting the Koran the way we'd prefer they interpret it.

    We just can't tell if what these folks say is to be believed or not. And to keep ourselves from being fooled again we view any Muslim here as a jihadist or a sleeper cell member.
     
  13. RiseAgainst

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    I want to know why you are looking for friends on the internet, with ideological opponents no less.

    Clearly english is not your first language. We dont have to be friends to live in peace with each other. I choose my friends carefully.

    Listen up. As a Christian i have to put up with the worst of insults. Now you do something for me. You actively work to make people stop offending christianity or shut the (*)(*)(*)(*) up.
     
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    I think I understand the point you're trying to make. But let me check a few things.

    Is it the case that you believe Islam is an Empire in the making?
     
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    LoL : )))) Okay I will shut the ......... up , I have to go training in 15 minutes : ))) I want to be friend with all people , jewish atheist christian budist etc : )))) I dont want to people hurt each other : )))) Ofcourse no need to be friends to live in peace but it not only , you're trying to see me as an enemy : ))))) I dont want to see you as an enemy but you leave me no choice out of it . Have you ever seen me while I was insulting other religions or other believes : ))))) For example you said muslims are liars : ))))
     
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    If islam is so good, why are so many muslim countries basket cases?
     
  17. RiseAgainst

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    Your religion teaches you to lie. That doesnt mean every muslim lies. Only the obedient ones.

    I dont make personal enemies, of course i cant stop you from making me yours. After all, you ARE an obedient Muslim, it is painfully obvious.
     
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    No such thing man.

    There is not a possible way to interpret Islamic teachings and the life of Muhammed as peaceful. They are very very good at deception. Arabs in general are very smart people and should not be underestimated.

    There are two types of muslims: obedient, informed and practicing. Disobedient, nonpracticing and/or ignorant of Islam.

    Right now they are 1% American population. If we are stupid enough to buy their peace stories and let them reach 5% we will see their true colors, and we will HEAR them loud and clear.

    Listen, there are "moderate" Muslims all throughout the islamic world. Where the (*)(*)(*)(*) were they when christians were genocided in these nations? I dont care where they were because my people are dying every day from these savages. Leave it to muslims to consider offensive language more threatening than genocide and minority persecution.
     
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    My religion says telling lie is one of the greatest sins . My religion says you can tell lie in only 3 conditions . ONE ; to protect people in a dangerous situation , TWO ; to conciliate two offended people , THREE ; in the field of battle.

    Yes I'm a soft person as long as you dont harm me , this is what islam teaches me : ))))))
     
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    You guys have a strange way of interpreting "harm".

    Plus, you just identified me as your enemy. So you can lie to me but i disregard what you say before you say it anyways so its either ignore me or kill me because i know too much about Islam for you to chamge me and there is precisely one way to stop me.

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    You guys have a strange way of interpreting "harm".

    Plus, you just identified me as your enemy. So you can lie to me but i disregard what you say before you say it anyways so its either ignore me or kill me because i know too much about Islam for you to chamge me and there is precisely one way to stop me.
     
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    What evil djinn taught you that crap?
     
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    Exactly. Some Western religious freaks still teach total BS in "history" classes.
     
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    Yes , you're a programmed computer to hate : ))) there is no choice for me except to see you as an enemy . YPu will learn to respect or we will continue to kill each other . Sorry ...
     
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    Yes Islam always claims they were Defensive Wars. They weren't and never were. To Islam it is a defensive war the moment the other side refuses to surrender to whatever. And Please don't act like Muslims killing other Muslims is something New. 4 of Muhammed's immediate successors died at the hands of other Muslims. And the other was for that time and place already and old man when he took the office and died an old man's death within couple of years. The Average Muslim remains a Muslim because to do otherwise incurrs a death sentence. If you are a male there are certain benefits if one has a heart bent in a certain way. You are almost literally a God over your own household as the slightest trespass against your wishes can result in death. Against that however is set the problem that no Mulslim husband can ever be sure of his wifes love for the same reason that no master is ever assured the love of a slave.

    And no I do not hate you. You came into existence as a scourge to be used when those of the true faith strayed from Godliness. To this day that remains your only reason for existance lest you repent and turn wholly to the one true and living God as opposed to the man and his bastardized creation you now follow.
     
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    And which capital city of Islam is going to teach us, give us the coordinates of that city and the well-defined borders of that threatening nation? Then we can be “friends.”
     

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