The Islam haters and the nonsense they name to back the hate!

No ... it describes the early years of Jewish, Christian ... and o wonder ... Muslim religion history and backing of faith, but not human history.

For the Jewish the Old Testament is the only thing
For the Christians it is Old Testament and New Testament
For the Muslims it is Old Testament and Koran

And the violence in religion is given for all at least!

 

As I earlier wrote, the New Testament overrules the Old.

At least you can defend a peaceful religion like Christianity instead of violent Nazi religions like Islam.
Let me remind you that Germany and Europe are such good places because of Christianity.

As it is writen in Bible, "a tree is known by its fruits".

 

Okay....you blame the Media for reporting Islamic Terrorism while referring the Terrorism accurately reported and try to use it as a way to say it does not matter?

Simply put sir...Islam is "Hated" because a small group of it's followers have VERY LOUDLY brought it into the light and non-Muslims have been compelled to look into what it says....they do not like what they see. Now another small group of its followers whisper into the wind that what it says is not what I says and the people screaming VERY LOUDLY are wrong.Muslims

Sorry but a bunch of kneeling praying worshipers is nowhere near as impactful as a bunch of kneeling prisoners getting their heads lopped off.

 

No ... miss-understanding!

There is violence inside the Koran and this not only a few times. But the problem is often translation problem and / or changes done to original text and at least interpretations of words. Example: Let us take the term unbeliever and now let us ask who the hack is such an unbeliever?
Here the first mistakes are done, because in some "versions" the term unbeliever is set equal to all other religions and so against Christinas and Jews too. The more impudent changes are also given, when the term unbeliever in the Sure is eliminated and then clearly changed with Christian and Jew.

To understand the truth, someone must investigate deeper in Koran to see the simple facts about the term unbeliever:

a) Mohammed lived at a time when the local cultures prayed to many gods for many issues. This was also big business for the locals when the followers spent a lot of money to serve their gods A, B, C, D ... but when Mohammed told this is all BS, there is only 1 god existing and not hundreds, then he made much enemies with this and as more as people followed him, as more hated he was and so they he had to flee from Mekka to Medina.

b) due to fact that in original text the Christ and Jew was excluded and as shown in posts before by examples it was told they have to be respected … the term unbelievers was in original addressed to atheists (someone like me) and those who praise to many gods as did many of the ancient cultures as we know (Egypt, Romans, Greek and many others).

Wrong!
Show me any passage of bible where Jesus Christ told that the Old Testament is with him over and can be forgotten!
You will find nothing and more as that, the Christian faith is based on this Old Testament. Christians believe that Jesus was the announced Messiah named in it and the Old Testament remained if full validity of content.

So all the Christian devils of the history backed their many different crimes with the Old Testament at least to reason it… if doing right is another story.
Nothing else is done in Koran and by the Islamist scum … they choose passages and back their terror with it, often by intended fakes and changes (as changing the original term unbeliever with Christians and Jews or simply telling they are unbelievers!)

Too many say that the majority of Muslims back it or think it is a good thing. And if they fail then comes BS of majority likes Sharia as basic law today and so they try their best to show that Islam is in it’s core evil.
The goal is to fight these 1% as enemies of all humans and to show those who even think that the terrorist scum is doing well that they are wrong. But for the latter 3 general things have to be done and here we fail totally until today:

a) Stop backing Islamist regimes who depress their people by this silly Islam thinking, only because they are our so called friend and / or ally in regions.
b) Stop to make the 3 monkeys about their behaviors and force them to accept general valid rules of humanity and law and to implement them. If they deny, make a total embargo against them!
c) Stop that the Islamist rat pipers over the world and so being in our countries too can do undisturbed their dirty job to make out of normal thinking people by brain washing Islamists.

Particulalry with the US is an unpleasant thing, because earlier or later we come to the endless story of gun law in the US … and therefor I have no desire anymore.

 

and here you are wrong. Show me where in the bible is told that the Old Testament is not further valid and is overruled!

And your rating of Islam = Nazi religion is simply ridiculous in its own when right the Nazis of these days hunt Muslims as animals in our countries and burn their houses.

 

I can agree that these 99% of Muslims who are not terrorists, supporters of them or simply saying it is ok that this scum does is not loud enough to counter the scum which abuse their religion.

 

I doubt they will ever be loud enough to drown out the screams of an entire region being destroyed in a slow genocide....this is what creates the hatred....the obvious hatred the Religion creates. Basically, if you are not the right version of Islam to the right version of Islam or even worse not Muslim...you are at risk of being killed. Personally I find someone wanting my death to be a compelling reason to seriously dislike them and unless the entire religion changes I simply do not care who is nice and who wants me dead because it is impossible to differentiate.

 

It can, if the will is there and most important is for me that the Muslims in our countries start it, lesser those in the ME living in civil war areas or unde rbloody regimes which we in the West back as friends.
I must only look in my own city where we have a big Turkish and Kurdish community due to the big Ford plant where they cam as wanted workers about 50 years ago. They demonstrate loud and often and big for every BS, particularly Pro or Contra Erdogan and the Kurdish when the Turks bomb them like mad as now. Why do these people not make a same ways protest and demonstration to show that they hate the terrorists please?
This is my accusation to them, because nothing happens and silence like on a grave yard after every Islamic terror attack. Only some official organizations make a public statement and end of story...

 

No, but where is the difference at least when the Christians of today don't follow the NT really, but like to quote Old Testament to back violence issues ... started with the old and well-known saying of "eye for eye, tooth for tooth..." in Old Testament!

 

There is no real problem in the U.S. because of the system our government created. Muslims here are more interested in peaceful life and prosperity, which we provide as possibility. Outside this country both logistics and culture allow the face of Islam to show the expressions of disgusting and violent nature it seems to have under the mask. We are fortunate to have an ocean between us and the Middle East....Europe does not and is under siege.

 

Sorry, but you have a clear internal problem with Islamist and their rat pipers who brain wash some of these peaceful living Muslims in the USA to become terrorists.
At the topic of this silly ban of Trump I clearly showed that only attacker of all Islamic terror acts inside the USA came from one of these 6 or 7 countries. The clear majority came decades ago to the US as refugee from other countries and / or their sons born and living in the USA became a terrorist suddenly!
Fight these rat pipers of Islamist should be a motto of Trump which I can follow and accept.... but nothing happens about form him, nor form any predecessor!

 

This issue you refer to pales when compared to the crazy white kid Phenom we have been living with since Columbine. I agree that internet hypnosis effects a few crazy Muslims but, Nazi propaganda creates even more nut jobs and they are a lot harder to pick out of a crowd.

 

Dude, 5000 years ago Ici the ice man was shot in the back with an arrow in Northern Italy, neither Rome nor Carthage were Jewish, Muslim or Christian, that didn't stop them from slaughtering each other by the tens of thousands. At no point in the Old testament were the Jews the only people in the Holy land or for that matter mentioned in the Old Testament.

 

There it is, the bias. I knew I'd get it out sooner or later.

 

Not going to happen there numbers are vanishingly small and you can't even scare up any sort of real biblical support for much more than expelling abortion workers from the community of believers until they repent.

 

Ehm???

Must I understand this now?

 

Every major imam in the Islamic world says that the later verses are controlling.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

The Old Testament is Jewish in origin. Christianity, i.e., following Christ, obviously started with Jesus, Peter, and Paul. Nowhere in the New Testament is violence encouraged or preached. Christians are not under the law but under faith. Nowhere in the examples or teachings of Jesus, Peter, or Paul do they suggest following Old Testament Israelite policies of wiping out whole communities. Why do you insist on comparing what happened 4000 years ago to what is happening today? Show me one example of a Christian version of ISIS that exists today.

Bill Warner, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Brigitte Gabriel, Dr. Peter Hammond, Robert Spencer, Daniel Pipes (there's a whole website full of experts on Islam devoted to stopping its spread at http://meforum.org), Nicolai Sennels (a Danish psychologist who has written several articles now from his dealings with Muslim youth in Denmark; see here: https://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/09/nicolai-sennels-psychology-why-islam-creates-monsters), David Wood... My personal favorites are ex-Muslims, nearly ALL of whom say Islam is a danger to the West. I'm a former Christian and I don't say Christianity is a danger to the West.

I don't have to ask myself, I know why. A) When Muslims are a tiny minority, they don't act up. B) When you have third generation Muslims, they are highly Westernized, UNLESS they become radicalized. C) Turks from 50 years ago were not being preached hate from their mosques like they are today because the extremists were suppressed back then. So yes, it is the religion and not the people. The same people in Turkey today are much more radicalized because of the religion.

An Islamapologist is anyone who apologizes for Islam, whether he's Muslim, Christian, or atheist, so the epithet fits. And obviously I know a great deal more about Islam than you do. You seem to know zilch about it. Philosophical question for you: Why don't Hindus in the West go on rampages and kill people at hamburger and steak restaurants when cows are sacred to them? Could it be their religion is different from Islam and that's why? Hmmmm???

 

If you believe women deserve to be raped based on how they are dressed, than islam should be your religion of choice.

 

Your mask fell off.

 

Then cross the fingers for it!
When I look only to Williamstown in Kentucky, I have unfortunately doubts!

 

YOUR interpretation doesn't amount to ****, what matters is the ****ing MUSLIMS interpretation, and THEY interpret it to mean KILL EVERYONE WHO ISN'T MUSLIM, especially Jews & Christians. You can rant till ****ing doomsday on here about how ****ing peaceful ****ing Islam is SUPPOSED to be and it isn't going to stop one ****ing Islamic terrorist attack.

You haven't looked very closely. In John 8, Jesus defends a woman against being stoned to death for adultery. If the Old Testament was still in force, he would have allowed the people to stone her to death, since that was the Mosaic law. http://www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=8&v=1&t=KJV#top Paul says it explicitly in Romans 3, that only the Jews are under the law (Moses' law), but Jesus is for the Jews & the Gentiles, for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. (3:23)

 

Oh ... dresscode for women is only a topic in Islam religion you think?
Ok, this nonsense and lie of raping is allowed if a women is too sexy dressed by Koran ... facts:

Bible:

1 Timothy 2: 9-10: Likewise, women also dignify themselves with dignity and modesty, not with hair and gold or pearls, or with precious clothing, but with what is true of women who profess to fear God Works. ....

1 Peter 3: 3-5: Your ornament is not the external, by braiding the hair, and by the hanging of gold, or by the dressing of the garments, but the hidden man of the heart in the incorruptible ornament of the gentle and still spirit, which is very precious before God. For so did the holy women, who placed their hope in God, and subordinated themselves to their husbands.

Sound very comparable what is written in Koran about women and dress code, eh?

 

You don't live there. And while you are going to find plenty of people many of them if not most of them women picketing abortion clinics you will find a vanishingly small number inclined to violence.

 

Wrong, in fact the whole thing was a set up designed to trick Jesus. If you go to the relevant passages in Leviticus you will quickly discover that woman could not under the circumstances be stoned under Jewish law because her paramour had not been brought along as well. The Bible doesn't do double standards in order to stone her you also have to stone her lover.

 

Sjhll I really act on your **** orgy here?

I think I have still disproofed your BS **** claim of kill all Jews and Christians very well. So your hate tirade here is only lame and a claim of nonsense which is only backed by all Islam haters and the Islamist terrorists.

You have 4 official Gospels in Bible, no question why only 4? What is with the others? If you say there are no others, then you are a troll, because they exist and are old as the Gospels itself.
And who was again the women who was saved for stoning? Maria Magdalena! No ... I don't come with rubbish like the movie "Da Vinci Code" with Tom Hanks or so, but you have to learn when your New Testament was written. And so we come to Paul, who was born how many years after Jesus died?

Are you Christ? If yes, do you pay some money t your church and if, why?
Investigate this and explain it with the NT please!