The Islam haters and the nonsense they name to back the hate!

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  1. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    no, I don't think that. Islam gets much worse. I'm merely pointing out the incompatibility of islam and American culture.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    That is precisely what we are experiencing today. Just as the protestant reformation returned Christianity to the doctrine of the bible and away from the inventions of the Catholic church and Holy Empires, this current Salafist reformation is returning Islam to the doctrine of the Koran and Hadiths and away from the inventions of later Muslims.
     
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    It is funny and strange that this statement has been made in the US over so many others and still works.

    No matter the keyword is tolerance and that is and always has to be an equal giving and taking.
    Example:
    A Christian woman always travels to Saudi Arabia. There is a duty to wear a headscarf, so it has to carry it or not to travel to Saudi Arabia - end of discussion!
    A Saudi woman travels to the USA and there it is ... let's not say "usual" like a mummy veiled around rum. So she has to let it or not to travel to the US - end of the discussion!

    This is true tolerance in my definition!
     
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    What you call "evil propaganda war based on lies, half trues, out of context taken facts, translation errors," is from the interpretations of Muslims of their doctrine.

    "Islam is not merely a belief, so that it is enough merely to preach it. Islam, which is a way of life, takes practical steps to organize a movement for freeing man. Other societies do not give it any opportunity to organize its followers according to its own method, and hence it is the duty of Islam to annihilate all such systems, as they are obstacles in the way of universal freedom. ...
    This religion is really a universal declaration of the freedom of man from servitude to other men and from servitude to his own desires, which is also a form of human servitude; it is a declaration that sovereignty belongs to God alone and that He is the Lord of all the worlds. It means a challenge to all kinds and forms of systems which are based on the concept of the sovereignty of man; in other words, where man has usurped the Divine attribute." Qutb

    Their fascination was arisen after the defenders of democracy and the
    defenders of other such false ideologies (who have no religion) defended democracy simply for the sake of it, and they mixed the falsehood with the Truth.
    ..... They distort the Truth with Falsehood, and mix the Light with the Darkness, and the Polytheism of democracy with the Monotheism of Islam. But we, with the help of Allah, replied to all of these fallacies, and showed that democracy is a religion. But it is not Allah’s religion. It is not the religion of monotheism, and its parliamentary councils are just places of polytheism, and safe havens for paganistic beliefs. All of these must be avoided to achieve monotheism, which is Allah’s right upon His servants. We must destroy those who follow democracy, and we must take their followers as enemies - hate them and wage a great Jihad against them.
    Abu Muhammad 'Aasim al-Maqdisi

    "Jihad is an obligation from Allah on every Muslim and cannot be ignored nor evaded.... It is the nature of Islam to dominate, not to be dominated, to impose its law on all nations and to extend its power to the entire planet." al-Banna

    Ibn Khaldoon "A representation, of the one who has the right to adopt the divine rules, aimed at protecting the Deen and ruling the world (Dunia) with it."

    Al-Mawirdi "Succession of the Prophethood aimed at protecting the Deen and ruling the world (Dunia)"
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    I don't think I completely understand what you're saying.

    There is zero tolerance for rape, regardless of how a woman is dressed, in America.
     
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    Right ... but even in Christian history was this given with the so called "counter reformation", but failed. Here we have such a movement in Islam now too, which wants to turn the clock back! Bad ...

    But to understand this BS of the Salafist, we have to know that Medieval Age was for many Muslim not the dark age, but the golden age in mind. Stupid nonsense at least ... particularly because they exclude the tolerance of Islam they gave then and not now and all the lies of Islamist ongoing with it, but this is the point! .
     
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    And the rape issue is not a common and normal thing in Islam as you think. It is an exception at least.... and happens also at Hindu same way for example.
     
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    Unlike Islam that dictates the laws to be applied here on earth, Christian doctrine doesn't concern itself with such matters.
     
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    Its pretty common, if you take your hijab off and walk around in public without male family members.

    PS Laura Logan disagrees with you.
     
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    You do realise that it was you who made the statement "It also happens with the Christians, .......".?

    So when are you going to show these instants, so I will ask again:

    Which lies about Christianity are they? Perhaps you can list them. Or are you going to state defenses used by those of a religion that is being constantly attacked by "Christians", and others from the usual suspects, with their defense being that the Bible also has similar verses?
     
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    Islam should be attacked. Islam should be thrown on the ash heap with every other backwards barbaric tribal cult.
     
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    Oh I don't know about all that.

    I just don't think we should import islam to America.
     
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    It's so funny that you write "major Imams" and experts on Islam and then list names of people who are clearly not! Robert Spencer, Daniel Pipes :clapping:
     
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    Hmm, I still don't see your answer to the question....
     
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    Couldn't agree with you more! We are 100% in sync on this!
    Great post.
    Yes, Christians are no more moral than Muslims, and god/Jesus is no more moral than allah.
     
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    But Islam does HATE YOU. Muslims are perfectly fine, perfectly ok, with their god/prophet saying that you and I (and other non-Muslims) are such utter scum that our only reward for living a good life is to burn, burn, and burn some more, simply for the "crime" of not being able to pick the one true "god" out of the thousands and thousands of equally illogical, equally as barbaric, other gods out there.

    In all fairness, Jesus is equally as despicable, so obviously Christians are not any better than Muslims are.
     
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    You are effectively running interference for our enemy in this longest of all US wars.....the enemy is faith. You should stop that.
     
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    Q8:41 says to give a certain percentage of the plundered booty to....to......wait for it (you already can guess the answer!).....wait......wait.....TO MOHAMMAD!! Yeah!! So we can see right through Islam - it's very obvious what Islam was created for. Obviously.
     
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    I think you are completely ignorant about Islam. But we can, fortunately, test that. So hopefully I'm wrong. So please tell us the 3 worst things in the Islamic texts (off the top of your head). Ready, go!
     
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    So then I suggest that you put your efforts not on DEFENDING "idiotic accusations and assertions that are far from any truth or facts" (SUCH AS RELIGIONS!), but rather in attacking those things - talking donkeys, Mohammad "split the moon", "angels and jinns are real!", etc., etc.
    You seem too smart to be religious, and too smart to be running the interference for religion that you don't even know you are doing.
     
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    You don't understand the Islamic texts very well - they won't criticize other Muslims because Allah will punish them if they do. Here's from the Islamic texts:
    "....Do not cause hardships to Muslims; do not criticize them; do not try to reveal their mistakes because whoever reveals his brother’s mistakes Allah will reveal his mistakes. If Allah reveals one’s mistakes, He will embarrass him publicly, even if the mistake is within his house (hidden from people)."
     
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    I did yesterday, remember?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-back-the-hate.500375/page-10#post-1067262424

    Ok, here is another example:

    Hence NT overrides OT. :strong:

    Again, are you sure you are not Muslim? You know more about Islam than the traditional religion of Germany, which is Christianity. You should be ashamed of yourself.
     
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    In Mt 5:17 Jesus says that the OT is still valid. Too bad Jesus isn't real enough, nor loving enough to have come down in the last 2000 years and educated us further as to what he really meant - to clarify. DO we enslave people like the OT/NT say, or do we NOT enslave people? Jesus won't tell us. He hates humanity - being all powerful and letting people think that slavery is fine is utter hatred on Jesus' part. Shame on him.

    Canell, if you had Jesus' supposed super-powers, would YOU have done that? I would, because Modern Secular Humanists love humanity more than Jesus does, of course. But how loving are YOU, Canell?

    I also condemn Jesus for saying Mt 5:17....do you?

    Have a great afternoon.
     
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    Nope. You should have tried the sword verse (Matthew 10:34) 8)
    It's already evening here. :judge:
     
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    Ephesians 2
    15 by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

    Hebrews 8
    13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

    Romans 10
    4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.(*)

    Romans 7
    6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

    2 Corinthians 3
    13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance was fading away. 14But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.

    Galatians 3 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

    23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law(*)

    Matthew 5:
    38 You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.
    39 But I say to you, Do not resist the evil man [who injures you]; but if anyone strikes you on the right jaw or cheek, turn to him the other one too.
    43 You have heard that it was said, You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy;
    44 But I tell you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
     
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