An apology to all members of the military and police!

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by DennisTate, Jul 8, 2016.

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Can a true Christian, be a policeman, and take a life?

  1. Yes....

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  2. No, never.....

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  3. I am not sure.....

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  4. I never saw those verses in that light before.

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  1. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Why would real Christians want to fight and kill people? A magic number of them have to be killed for their faith before Jesus returns. If they resist them it takes longer for Jesus to return. Don't they want Jesus to return so that they can get into the golden cube?
     
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    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    "Real Christians"? Until you can tell me who they are, the rest of this question doesn't make any sense. It sounds like you mean American protestants, and if you think that they're the "real" Christians, then my only response is LMAO.
     
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    Yeah, if that life is worthless..:)
    "Ungodly...These men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed.." (2 Peter 2:12)

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  4. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All life is infinitely precious......
    but time seems to be non-linear.....
    and some people have such horrible thought and behaviour patterns that
    the only way to get them out of their predatory habits is to take their lives from them?!

    Another time line may come along later in which they can be led to a totally different way of thinking.
     
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  5. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have something in mind that I believe can alter the way that the average
    Israeli views the typical Palestinian,

    I also have a theory on how this can be marketed to North American Christians.

    First century church may have numbered 400,000... did the majority convert to Islam?
     
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    Dropship Well-Known Member

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    "The target marker flares looked quite pretty floating slowly down in the night sky" my mother told me about the time the Luftwaffe bombed her home city of Leicester (England) in 1940 when she was 18.
    She and her family survived, but others didn't.
    So we had to do D-Day to kill nazis, and good riddance to them..:)
    Likewise, Hitler was developing a big transatlantic 'Amerikabomber' and an atomic bomb, so the Americans came over to kill them too.
    Same with the japs, they also rightly got their asses busted.
    Incidentally some religious cults such as the Jehovah's Witnesses refused to fight in WW2, so if everybody had thought like them the Nazis would be ruling half the world by now, and the Japs the other half..:)

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    "I completely lack the bombers capable of round-trip flights to New York with a 5-ton bomb load. I would be extremely happy to possess such a bomber which would at last stuff the mouth of arrogance across the sea."-Hermann Goering 1938
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    A nazi study of the effects of an atom bomb blast on NY
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I saw a great documentary series on Netflix today.

    The Untold History of the United States....... I watched the first three episodes and plan to get into more soon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Untold_History_of_the_United_States
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    How does the Bible define a real Christian? Do you have enough faith to command a tree to uproot itself and make it jump into the sea? Do you walk in his commandments (1 John 5:1-4; 2 John 1:6)? Do you take any assistance from the Gentiles (3 James 1:5-8)?
     
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    So now it sounds like you're saying that there are no real Christians. So who are you even talking about?
     
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    There is nothing evil with resisting those who actively attempt to do you harm brother.

    If you have a family, your role is to protect them. It's never too late to learn how to do that.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My daughter really likes listening to this guy......




    Todd White - Know Who You Are In Christ

    ... so do I
     
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    If you personally have enough faith to command a tree to uproot itself and make it jump into the sea. If you personally walk in his commandments (1 John 5:1-4; 2 John 1:6). And if you personally refuse any assistance from the Gentiles (3 James 1:5-eight) then you personally could be a real Christian according to the biblical criteria.

    1 Corinthians 6:1.

    1 Corinthians 11:28.
     
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    Uh, ok.

    So....same question: who are you talking about when you say "real Christians" that you think meets these criteria? If you can't point to someone, then it seems that your point was basically, "I don't think non-existent people should defend themselves so that they can be martyred". Which is a pretty nonsensical point to be making.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Are you a pretend Christian or a real Christian? If you are something else then you now have an idea of what a real Christian should be according to the biblical fairy tale.
     
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    What I personally am is of no relevance here. And you didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. And you still haven't answered the question. Why are you saying that "real Christians" shouldn't be able to defend themselves if no real Christians exist? What is the ****ing point?
     
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    I am fairly certain that I do have the Holy Spirit and I do feel that
    ever since 1990 I have been given a higher level of guidance than
    I had before then.

    My dad passed on January 1, 1990 and around that time I began to
    quote Isaiah 45:1 and literally raise my right hand in the air and ask
    for a higher level of guidance.

    I went through ten years of being shown error, after error, after error
    in my beliefs.
     
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    My dad passed in 1987 and I thought "Good riddance you miserable old git"..:)
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The number one thing that dad's could do to be more popular with their kids is to be nicer to their kid's mom!
     
  19. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Don't be like the crazy old coot Abraham.

    Genesis 21:14 (CEV) = "Early the next morning Abraham gave Hagar an animal skin full of water and some bread. Then he put the boy on her shoulder and sent them away. They wandered around in the desert near Beersheba,"
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There may be a little more to that story
    than is recorded in the Jewish scriptures....


    In the Book of Jasher it is recorded that when Isaac was five years old......
    Sarah saw Ishmael pointing an arrow at Isaac........ Ishmael was 13 or so at that time.........

    Somethings don't change much do they.......?


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sderot
     
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    It's too bad Ishmael didn't plug the little creep and his maw when he had the chance.
     
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    True......
    and I think that he would let this man go home if
    he was in a position legally to do so.


    https://www.change.org/p/us-army-lt...-his-men-from-taliban?source_location=minibar

    US Army LT sentenced to 20 years; charged with murder for protecting his men from Taliban

     
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    We don't. However we do defend ourselves if attacked.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And...... I believe that there are certain things that
    must be accomplished by
    the people who believe in the Judaeo-Christian ethic
    that will tend to cause some conflict........
    such as the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple
    that a writer from Uganda asserts will result in an outpouring of
    the Holy Spirit.

    I agree with this man.

    I believe that once the Jerusalem Third Temple is operation even the
    huge blessing of "rain in due season" will be given to the Middle Eastern
    nations that allow Jews, Prostylites to Judaism and Noahides to attend the
    Festival of Tabernacles in Jerusalem.
     
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    If the USA and Canada and several other major nations back up
    the nation of Israel in their desire to rebuild their Jerusalem Third
    Temple, we know that some conflict will happen..... and we
    have to be prepared to deal with it.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.366835/
    Please pray or meditate on Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal?

    ......
     

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