Trump Administration is Advancing Class Warfare Against Us

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  1. Grumblenuts

    Grumblenuts Well-Known Member

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    The thing to always remember is there exists nothing else. Without unions employees just get the shaft. Employees everywhere.
     
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  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I competed extremely well with the bigger fish. Actually dealing with a roofing tile firm caused a lot of the trouble. While in my view the management did not believe in timely paying of bills, I still had to pay mine on time.

    Look at the benefits PATCO got by dealing unfairly with the Feds.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is a myth.

    We who owned companies were expected by the Democrats to fry in the fire for many years so the workers collected almost all the benefits. Well, we who invested our money and our time wanted earlier payback and Democrats resent that. I think owning my machine shop made it possible for me to convert from Democratic party to Republican party. I saw up close what Unions do.

    When I supervised a major BART project in San Francisco, only my telling the union representing chemical warehouse workers they would be sued stopped them from unloading my company truck and flipping it over. The very next day they flipped over a truck from some other party.
     
  4. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I could not be more clear. If I am wrong about you, please correct me by telling me how much of your income and accumulated assets you gave to the lower wage workers in the company. I know what IT staff makes and for you to profit more for an hour of your life than the receptionist or janitor is what you consider class warfare. It goes both ways. Pointing that out does not make me a troll.

    Having said that, I do respect your profession and believe you deserve what you worked for. Just know that if you start a discussion on class warfare, someone may point out which side of the war you're on.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you are in favor of higher unemployment. That's the problem with the D party and is the reason why Trump won the rust belt and Presidency.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nice dodge. If you'll excuse me, I have to get back to work even though I have already earned the maximum wage. I always give a little extra effort when I know there is no profit in it!
     
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    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Doofenshmirtz keeps beating Kode like a rented mule, and Kode keeps trying to dodge.

    LOL
     
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    Who are you to say what someone elses best interests are?
     
  10. Tijuana

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    What on earth are you talking about? All I'm saying is, what's good for one side, is good for the other. It's called being honest, instead of being a partisan shill for one side.
     
  11. Kode

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    fine. Don't clarify it. And I won't waste time trying to respond to vague accusations.
     
  12. Grumblenuts

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    Sorry, bub. I've seen it and done it. Roofing included. Union and non-union. And we profoundly disagree. Particularly on the point you didn't actually address at all there. I suggest trying to bully someone smaller and dumber if that's all you've got to offer.
     
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    So two sides in your mind and "partisan," meaning a strong supporter of a party, which reveals that you see this all as Democrat vs Republican. What's this topic again? Oh, yeah "Trump Administration is Advancing Class Warfare Against Us". I see two sides there. "Trump Administration" vs "Us". So where'd you pull this "partisan' notion from? Be honest!
     
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    I will have to read up on this and see for myself. However, this is nothing new, Affordable care act, is just one example of a law or bill that does the exact opposite of what the title is. How can Democrats be worker friendly when they support international corporate free trade policies and huge government scams like burning food crops in our gas tank which mostly benefits big farm corps? The biggest government programs meant to regulate are mostly written by the companies that are being regulated in order to shut down competition. When the working class abandons the Democrat party in such numbers, it can only mean people wised up. At least you expect the GOP to be corporate friendly, Democrats pretend to care about the average person but they are no different. They just support different big moneyed corps.
     
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    Couldn't agree more. They are both giant corporation supporting parties which reveals that both are unquestionably on the right. There is no "viable" party to represent the people, the voters, workers, elderly, etc in general. All is a disgusting charade. And, deep down, everyone knows it. Both exist to maintain the status quo, the establishment, meaning to "conserve" the power and assets of the already too rich so they can just keep subjugating and plundering everyone else with very little effort. A little grease here, change a law there, build a prison here, boom, oligarchy locked in via kleptocracy.

    High time we stopped stupidly bickering we each other over nonsense and focused on the real enemy. Why? Who/what's that? Hint: it's not capitalism, socialism, communism, nor any particular person.
     
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    Hey, finally someone submits a suggestion that is worth pursuing! Who is the real enemy then?
     
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    Exactly. Let's get past this false choice of D vs. R and recognize it's really up to us to make it right. If we could force "instant runoff voting" in states, then we might have a chance at a real alternative party. But there's plenty to sort out first.
     
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    If you can't keep up, maybe you should re-read what I was responding to, or don't jump in in the middle of my conversation.

    My point was, that the other poster seemed to think it was ok to plant shills in the workforce from the union, but not from the employer. He literally cannot understand the basic concept that if this is allowed for one side, it should be allowed for both. It seems like you can't either.
     
  19. Grumblenuts

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    Earth to TJ: This is a public forum, not your or my anything. Grow up, son. If you just want to masturbate, kindly go do it in the privy.
    Of course everyone understood that the first time. Just because you "seemed to think" something doesn't make it so. Stop presuming everyone's so dumb and inconsiderate. To the contrary, often the main reason no one responds is because they don't want to hurt your feelings.
     
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  20. Kode

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    And it seems that you can't understand that employers have an abundance of law, committees, agencies, organizations, and advocates at their disposal but the worker has no representation other than unions.
     
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    He stated who. The establishment.. IE deep state and the oligarchies that pull their strings.

    I disagree about socialism however. Progressive left and socialist agendas and politics suit their purposes more than any other. More government equals more control, less personal freedoms equals more control, less guns means more control. Unions equal more control, Liberty itself is a threat to that control.
     
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    *Securing tin foil hat*
    Yea man! They declared war on us!
     
  23. Kode

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    But that's not making sense. The DNC/RNC and all the legislation they've passed ARE "the establishment". So saying the Dems and Repubs are not actually a choice BUT that the problem is the establishment, is like saying busses and trains and subways are not the problem but public transportation is.

    Your "disagreement" about socialism is vague.
     
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    Noooo haha the DNC and RNC are not the establishment, they do what they are told. So many new congressmen and women go to Washington thinking their going to help their communities and country and after a few months it starts to sink in the reality of it all. Play the game of special interests and vote accordingly or go home. Politics is an occupation. Who wants to be unemployed? I assure you there's precious little ideologies involved. It's all about the money.

    The real people in power do what they want. As do their minions. Hiding behind our constitution. How many times in recent years have we seen people on both sides go to a Congressional hearing and just flip them the finger? Congress is impotent

    Cmon now..
     
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  25. Kode

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    Indeed. So then can you identify who you mean by "the establishment"? Who is of "the establishment" which is the problem? I'm not asking names but titles, descriptors, categories. Bank executives? Courts?
     

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