American ambassador in Germany Richard Grenell insults Germany just hours after taking office

And why? All the fault of Iran ... as always? No!
The US has brought the Shah and his bloody regime to power with a coup and openly supported everything to the last minute! This point alone makes many friends for the United States at the supressed people, eh?
Worse still, for what the US hates Iran the most to this day - the occupation of the Boitschaft and the hostage-taking of embassy staff.
Of course, the whole thing was illegally and is not to excuse ... BUT ... understandable, if one deals with the facts!
Out of the embassy, the counter-coup was planned and directed, but betrayed and failed ... and THAT is as illegal as the occupation and hostage-taking that followed!
A point in the US liked to be forgot and concealed!

Who actively supported the Shah regime alongside the US? Israel!
But you are right that Iran supports Hezbollah in Lebanon ... and they are also terrorists. On the other hand, Israel has never taken care of any agreements and international law ... as it had clearly shown in the Lebanese civil war!

But anyway ... Everyone can actively represent their interests in the world ... unless you are not a friend of the USA? Is that your message about the Iranian engagement in Syria ... with which Iran has been allied for 30 years?

Not perfect is a gross understatement!
I think it's always funny, for example, to beat Iran for using sharia law with all the really beastly punishments .... but completely ignored that Saudi Arabia is using Sharia with beastly punishments as well! Better not say a word about that because Iran = Enemy = hit it, Saudi Arabia = Friend = conceal!
As for the civil war in Yemen, we also have an excessive hypocrisy here!
Once put aside the alleged or actual use of poison gas ... we condemn the Assad regime and the Russians for deliberately bombing civilians or accepting civilian casualties with a shrug in their bombing! But that's quite the same what Saudi Arabia does in Yemen too, but here let's keep it concealed ... because that's our friend!

 

What? Show me where merkel in 2017 defended open borders? She switched her politics 180° in 2016 and says 2015 will never repeat.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/19/angela-merkel-admits-mistakes-asylum-seekers-election

What is policy now? We have ANKEr centers. family reunion is blocked for migrants. We do mass deportations and cut down financial help to zero.

You dont know Merkel and thats your problem. She is a cold blooded bitch. She did the pro migrant thing in 2015 because she thought she gains points. It backfired so she went full reverse thrust.

Merkel has no own agenda. She only wants power.

 

Dont try to isolate trump on this

He is not the first American to object to the iran deal

It was so unpolular with the American people that obama could not get approved by congress as a binding treaty

Unlike the greedy euros we are not going to bury our heads in the sand for the sake of making money

A nuclear iran in 7 years is no more acceptable than a nuclear iran tomorrow

 

The palestanians could begin by spending every Deutsche Mark thats given to them on education and commerce instead of war with the Jews

 

Yeah....they can buy books with those Deutsche Marks.....the ones hollowed out on the inside to accept explosive or other weapons!

 

You call them sponsors of terrorism, but you have no problem selling Iran anything they want. At least the Saudis are not dedicated to the destruction of another country as Iran is.

The 911 terrorists were not acting as agents of the Saudi government.

 

The 911 terrorists were paid by the saudi government. Iran holds Saudi arabia at bay.

 

Israel does not claim sovereignty over the west bank or the Gaza strip.

 

A question for those who have in-depth knowledge on this subject: What is Israel's ultimate goal in the West Bank?

If there were very few Palestinians there, or if they could be persuaded to leave, then annexation would be a rational goal. (Not necessarily a 'just' one, just rational. It's what the European settlers did to the Native Americans in North America.)

But there are millions of Palestinians there. So if Israel annexes the West Bank, what will become of them? If they are made Israeli citizens, won't this endanger the Jewish character of Israel -- which is 20% Arab already? And it's hard to see Israel annexing the West Bank but denying citizenship to the Palestinians there.

One Israeli told me that Israel would eventually do a deal for a two-state solution ... but it's hard to see how that would work, as they would have to dismantle all (or most of) the settlements -- as they did in Gaza. Is this realistic?

I remember reading Moshe Dayan's memoirs, and he seemed to think (thirty years ago) that the Palestinians would somehow become reconciled to Israeli rule, given all the benefits it would bring. This hasn't happened, assuming it was a belief at the time.

So ... what does Israel plan to do with the West Bank?

 

that's ludicrous, Israel didn't exist how could it accept? The occupants of palestine had every right to exist having their lands carved up and given away to stateless refugees...how about the UN carve up the southwest US and give it to latin american refugees to form their own country against the wishes of the current american occupants, how does that work for you?

 

The 9-11 rerrorists may have gotten money from individuals within saudi arabia but there is no evidence the government was involved

 

The Jewish leadership accepted the UN proposal.

The Arabs had a right to choose war, but it turned out to be a very bad idea.

The Arabs never had any sovereignty in Palestine. They were offered that but were too greedy and wanted it all. Bad decisions like that have consequences.

 

you're a historical revisionist...the jews were refugees they had no claim to the territories, the Palestinians were already inhabitants for a several millennia...Palestinians are not arabs, they just happen to speak Arabic, does your speaking english make you English?...

typical you refuse to answer the question of latinos occupation of SW USA doesn't qualify them for a new state...why is that, why the cowardice from rightwing Israel supporters to answer simple questions of moral equivalency that defeat their arguments?

 

Oh my, all those Arab Nationalist Palestinians were really confused, then.

And Arab Nationalist Egyptians, Arab Nationalist Iraqis, Arab Nationalist Libyans...

Palestinians are Arabs you goober.

 

The Jews were accepted as immigrants to Palestine even when it was still Ottoman territory. Ben Gurion fought on the Turks side during WWI. They didn't "claim" anything, they bought land that was for sale. At some point the Palestinians decided there was getting to be too many Jews around and they resorted to violence. They have been on the losing end of that violence ever since.

 

If I were Israel, I would hold on to that high ground of Golan until such time as the philosophy, worldview & mood of those surrounding her has dramatically changed....and they accept Israel's right to exist as nation among them!

 

There are many solutions to the issue.
For one, another 30 years and the new generation there will want to be Israeli citizens rather than be submissive slaves to their corrupted leaders.
Another solution is to establish two states.
Another one is for them to join Jordan as part of the nation or as confederate.
Another is for Judea and Samaria be part of Israel, just like American Samoa is part of the US.
Another is annexation by Israel.

 

Grenell backtracks and issues apologies for his behavior in all media here.

He said it was not his intention to give orders or insult and that he maybe was too direct. He also lies about what great frieds Trump and Merkel are and how much trump loves Germany.

That guy is burned...

 

annexation of at least 62% mainly area C where Israel has been blowing up Palestinian houses and destroying needed resources, eg water and energy, forcing them to move out of the area.

Indeed. The difference being that in those days there was no law against it. We were all basically savages. Why do you believe it is rational to take other people's lands against International Law?

It is not clear how many Palestinians are still in Area C. Israel thinks it has managed to expel all but 100,000 though others believe more are still there. This still is Palestinian land which was supposed to have been handed over to the Palestinians by 1998

Israel's intentions appear to be to allow small bantustans in the West Bank which every few years she will destroy and kill thousands of people from, along with land in the Sinai being a supposed Palestinian State. Apparently Trump is to announce that Israel is to give a tiny part of Jerusalem to the Palestinians for the capital of this supposed state which they are going to demand they accept. Reality is they will not accept it. One possibly scenario is that should Israel get into a full scale war with Lebanon/Syria/Iran she may also need to face the West Bank. Another possibility is that Israel will become non viable because of BDS and have to accept the only honourable settlement which now is available which is a One State Solution with citizenship and equal rights for all her people. Israel has been warned for a very long time that this will be the outcome if she continues her settlement building.

However it goes, unless the Christian Zionists get Armageddon and destroy the world, Israel will eventually be beaten one way or another. Given that Israel knows this she may accidentally take it to Armageddon.

No. If Israel does do a two state solution, it will be as I say above and without the Palestinians agreement in just the same way as the way Israel left Gaza was - and left Gaza with no hope of surviving. To try to dismantle the settlements would cause civil war. In addition as the settlements now have massive say in the knesset, it really is not going to be suggested.

They accepted Israel in Oslo and were prepared to allow her to take 78% of their ancient homeland as long as they could have a viable contiguous state in the remaining 22%. Although Israel accepted this, Christian Zionists in the US did not and in 95 or 6 they with your senate ruled that the US should move its Embassy to Jerusalem which should be the undivided capital of Israel (as they claim their bible says and which was stating that the US no longer supported Oslo) A few days after this Rabin was murdered by a Jewish extremist. This more or less ended Oslo. The final ending of it was when Blair managed to convince the EU to take out the man who was doing successful conflict Resolution with Hamas and instead call Hamas a terrorist group, build new Jails for political prisoners and allow Israel to at will assassinate Political Palestinians or anyone else they wanted and to use their world class army against civilians with a few gorilla fighters.

 

The Final Solution in increments?

 

I don't know wbout which alternate reality you are talking here, but in the real one, the Sauds have largely caused 9-11 and the Iraqi invasion, the civil war in Yemen as well as attacks on Syrian's regime. That's not counting all the Islamist groups they support, and that committed terror all over the globe. You can't have much dirtier, one would think, and yet there's Israel. Nice company you keep.

 

And Israelis are Ukrainians.

 

First, the Turks did better than the Occident at managing the Levant. Accepting jewish immigration is one thing, one decent thing I might add, but ethnic cleasing is another, indecent thing. Massive immigration in Palestine caused social troubles there like it causes everywhere.

Second - you are right; It was the Arabs who helped the Occident fight the Ottomans in WWI - not the zionists. The Arabs won their right for independance, while the zionists bargained for it in lord Balfour's office, offering to bring the USA into the war for it (after whacking the Russians out of it, still from an office).

Finally, buying land doesn't give one any sovereignty. I have parents that have property in the US - the land they bought there isn't "Canadian land" for it; It's still the US', believe you me. My parents are "forced" to accept US rules when they go there, notably by paying taxes and observing local laws.

The UN partition plan didn't offer anything to the Palestinians; It took from them what they already had. The Palestinians' acceptance of the plan should have been a si ne qua non condition, since it was them that were concerned, not the rest of the UN which, at that time, didn't have the USSR and China as members anyway, being still an occidental gentlemen's club then.

 

What?

When did the idea that Palestinians are Arabs get controversial?

 

I personally have no problems with it. They are indeed Arabs, culturally, but at their base, it is a semitic people, typical of the fertile crescent's.

And most zionists who came "back" in the area were Ukrainians with Khazar ancestry.