Vancouver restaurant manager fired for refusing to serve man in MAGA hat

If you think homosexuality is a choice, then suck a **** for a few days. See how it feels in your mouth.

Can you honestly say that is a choice? I love eating poon. The thought of a penis, including my own, repulses me.

I have arguments with my penis most mornings.

There is no way, as a straight man, I can like penis. It is not in my book of choices.

 

I don't know what poon is, I don't argue with my penis either.

 

Some of Trump's supporters like the guy, but many of them don't trust him. They're looking for an improvement in their economic situation.

About the hat... I wonder where they are made.

 

Its not a hat, hats have a brim, its a cap, no brim, just a visor.

 

Of course.

 

Agreed. Same for gays, straights, skin tone or whatever other reason. If you don't have that right, then you should have it. What you don't have, or shouldn't have, is a right to be bailed out with tax payer dollars if your business collapses.

 

Actually, in many parts of the country they can be discriminated against.

 

Duh...Gosh...I don't know.

 

sexuality is scientifically/biologically verified as normal and natural...from the moment of conception it's predetermined if a person is heterosexual, homosexual or somewhere in between, you have no choice as to how your brain is wired...

whereas religion is a completely the creation of the human mind and has no scientific validity...

 

What an idiot. He'll die stupid.

 

Now that is a reasonable point.

 

Good guess but no, it was ignorance.

 

...with "Made in China" written inside.

 

Maybe. Maybe Canada will elect him to office.

 

Especially bakers that refuse to serve gay couples wanting a wedding cake, those damn liberals...

 

So..

 

So the hat guy in question would have removed it if he had any manners.

 

That fad went out with the 1980's..

 

This has to be illegal unless this specific customer had said something offensive or acted stupidly. Wearing a MAGA hat or any other hats cannot be a legitimate reason to toss out customers.

 

First, a custom that dates back hundreds of years isn't a "fad".

Second, are you suggesting that LWers dictate customs, along with everything else? Should there be an authoritarian council of elites who decide which customs or fads are deemed acceptable and anyone who doesn't abide will be sent to reeducation camps?

 

It was in Canada sooooo......not under the Constitution.

The evictor was fired.

 

I didn't think you could come up anything.

 

I have already seen plenty of this - right from when I first started being in political forums - gradually it reached my news interviewers on my tv. Basically the argument was that you had to listen to what people, who were for instance anti Muslim, had to say or they would get worse. As people listened and what they said became a 'norm' they moved further to the right. Then of course there was the blaming of the Frankfurt School for bringing in PC things like anti racism, anti gay and so on. The Frankfurt School set itself as one of its tasks to find a way so that what happened in WW2 never happened again and within that was the intolerance of intolerance - that is the things that people were complaining were PC. So no, it has moved so that people have moved back to the place they were in the 1930's in Germany when they felt they had to just try and talk people out of their position. For instance it is true that there are reasons why people are moving in this way. In the US that is a mixture of the economic situation, the change in demographics meaning that being white is not going to be the majority for much longer, the feared or hated 'other' being usually Muslims but Mexicans and Blacks are there too and the supposed fear trigger of the small amount of terror the US has faced on its own soil. Research shows that when you have a mass of these things coming together as we have now people with a latent authoritarian complex - that is people who under good conditions would not respond in this way, do. That is they look for the all powerful leader, the strong man (could be woman but man much more likely) they are wanting to belong to this group to feel unity against their perceived danger and due to this they are prepared to let go of the norms of their society and feel fine about those outside their group being harmed even killed by their leader - as Putin has done. But as I said there is a reason why people act like this. Some liberals get stuck on that. They understand why people are acting like that and in so doing lose sight of the reality that regardless of the reason why people act in the way they do, they are doing it. Instead they try to talk them out of it when in reality once someone has moved this way, it is so emotional, so being part of a tribe, really it becomes something of a cult and we all know how difficult cult's are to leave. Liberals who do not understand this act just like the liberals in 1930's Germany, sure that with enough understanding they will come round and there is a danger in that that they will not realise the situation till it is too late.

That would be violence against violence. That is as I explained to you the very thing that stopped England from almost certainly becoming fascist in the 1930's. I am not saying that I approve of that but I seem to remember when I looked at Antifa sometime they believed that such groups had to be confronted with violence if need be. We used to have antifa and the EDL meeting for skirmishings every now and then - nothing serious. They seemed to both enjoy it...and again in Poppers quote I gave he believes that intolerance must be if need be, met by force - though he is I think talking about the law. Popper specifically mentions as I said in my post, the difficulty of being able to debate meaningfully with such people.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/25998-the-so-called-paradox-of-freedom-is-the-argument-that-freedom

You are talking about Antifa. Well they didn't call the EDL Nazis. However if you look at this post in this thread it appears that at least some of your people are themselves making that claim. Perhaps that was what they were referring to.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...man-in-maga-hat.536575/page-3#post-1069298570

I think this is quite a good definition of fascism

https://bigthink.com/scotty-hendricks/for-your-next-political-argument-what-fascism-really-is

 

The two charts are interesting
I think the first on relates to NAFTA, free trade with chIna and globalization

And the 2nd may also

The top ten percent do ok all over the world

A rich chinese is a rich euro is a rich American

But only in America before globalization were the non 10% able to live will also

Now the 90% in America are competing with workers in india who live in cardboard boxes

And it shows in the form of lost jobs and stagnant wages