white officers Pulling Guns On Black Man Picking Up Trash In His Back Yard

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They have to respond to the calls. If they have proof it was a prank then they do take action because it is a waste of taxpayer dollars.
     
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    My only objection would be describing it as "Jim Crow" culture, since that is generally associated with racism in the rural south. But as these "incidents" clearly demonstrate, racism is not limited to the rural south. Indeed, the most abusive police forces tend to be located in the urban north (Chicago, Detroit, NYC, etc.).

    I think the people from Mississippi ought to come to Chicago to learn how to hate.
    --Martin Luther King Jr.
     
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    Well said. Very well said.
     
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    You do bring up an interesting point... most of these sorts of incidents tend to happen in places controlled by urban Democrats. The Chicago PD, for example, is notoriously corrupt and abusive. And unionized.
     
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    Actually, there are many other alternatives, ones that don't completely absolve police officers of any responsibility to respect the lives and liberties of the people they're supposed to be serving.

    For example, one alternative would be properly screening and training police officers. Radical idea, I know.

    Another example would be ending the failed, unconstitutional, disastrous "war on drugs", the enforcement of which not only endangers civilians, but police officers as well.
     
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    The Chicago police had a racist crew who tortured their mostly African America victims into signing whatever.
    The city paid 100's of millions in damages while that white racist thug and his gang receive their pension. That's white privilege.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Burge
     
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    Again, in this case... what call?
     
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    I find it exceedingly odd that the primary responsibility to safely manage such a situation is placed on the untrained civilian and not the trained police officer.
     
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    If pulling their guns on an innocent man is "correct", then this country is in deep, deep trouble.
     
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    Those don't make the news.
    Just black ones.
     
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    I'd call it an example of state privilege. The state, historically speaking, has ALWAYS assumed such privileges to itself. The state, by its very nature, is violent and authoritarian, and predominately aimed at the poor.
     
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    I grew up in Chicago.
    There are some neighborhoods a white person gets killed just walking into..
    The police are afraid to go in alone, and for good reason.
     
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    One officer unholstered his sidearm but never pointed it at the man.
     
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    No, they would not be justified in killing you. You were innocent. Killing an innocent person is almost never justifiable.

    In order for a shooting to be justified, it must be (a) based on positive identification of an actual threat and (b) proportionate to that threat.
     
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    You feel bad for people who get paid to do a job that they volunteered for? Why?
     
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    Why did he unholster his sidearm when there was no actual or imminent threat?
     
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    I'm still waiting for you to post me a story about 8 cops showing up with their guns on for a white dude attending his yard.
     
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    The way some people describe police officers, you would think cops were forced to work for free, like slaves.

    I wonder why these people don't feel sorry for the innocent civilians that cops end up shooting or harassing.

    I also wonder why supposedly "small government conservatives" almost always side with the government when it comes to disputes between cops and civilians.
     
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    Some of them are real dangerous, and you don't know until you are there, with a split second decision.
    Some of the neighborhoods are real dangerous. Should they walk around with their guns drawn all the time.

    And BTW, The dangerous neighborhoods are very black.
    You don't see that crap in white neighborhoods.
     
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    And yet the poster you responded to said nothing of R or D.
    Opposite speaking that it is.
     
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    What I can't understand is why they haven't come up with something that will stop alleged perpetrators in their tracks and yet won't be painful or kill them. What about a large flash of light that will temporarily shock and blind them?

    Other than that there should be black policemen in black areas, or at least they should partner with the white police.

    You're right though about ending the war on drugs. Marijuana should be legalized and as for addicts, they should be given prescriptions. It would end the profit motive and today Mexico might not be in the mess it's in. What our drug consumption did to that country is sinful.
     
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    It's what fathers used to teach and some fathers still teach.

    If you want to come out alive take all the responsibility you can for your life -- no quibbling over primary, secondary, or per cent of responsibility.

    Of course you don't have to do that if you don't want to.
     
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    Because he didn't know if the man lived there, or if he was a perpetrator. One can't take chances. I mean an elderly Greek woman was tasered for holding a knife, because the officer had no idea why she was walking around with a knife, and why she didn't respond when he told her to drop it. What would you have done, allowed her to approach you? For all he knew she might have been insane.
     
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    wrong doing ???

    Had to be a black homeowner.

    Otherwise you wouldn't see a black man picking up trash.

    The cops just thought it was out of the ordinary seeing a black man picking up trash and were extremely suspicious.

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    In progressive cities like San Francisco they hire people to pick up the poop on the sidewalks.
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    No cop driving though a street would by heart know if any person lives in the house it's in they all could be perpetrators.... but these 8 cops picked came with their guns out for this black guy. #whiteprivilege
     

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