In Florida business's can ban people from bringing firearms into their business, however they do open themselves up to lawsuits by doing so. If a business prohibits a person who is legally allowed to carry a firearm from doing so, and that person becomes the victim of a crime, they can sue the business for violating their Section 8 right to bear arms in defense of oneself. My former employer Bell South had a company policy prohibiting firearms on company property or in company vehicles, myself working with a few other people made it very clear to the company if anyone of us or any other employee we discovered, had been the victim of a crime and could have defended themselves, we where prepared to take the company to court and clean their clock. They backed off and modified they policy to allow employees to have firearms in their personal vehicles on company property, but not in company vehicles. That wasn't enough for me, we again reminded the company, if any employee while on duty is injured, due to a criminal act and could have prevented such by being able to defend themselves, we where prepared to take the company to court and nail the company hard in the wallet. They refused to back down claiming it was a liability issue allowing employees to carry while at work, but it went out to management don't ask if someone is carrying, they didn't want to know anymore.
Mafia or state. What's the difference? "You've agreed that we can do anything we want to you. Oh you don't remember agreeing? Tough shyt, let's bust some kneecaps."
Apparently you didn't read my post fully. Florida schools are designed with a mostly open campus. I'm turning 50 soon, and all the schools I went to still exist with the same open structure. The idea of a single entrance with a metal detector would require about 3 hours to get everybody in. And then there's the fact that someone bent on going on a killing spree would not be interefied by a detector in the first place.
That is true. But it's also true that they can trespass you, which if you ignore will result in a felony charge. If you get asked to leave, it's in your best interest to do so. But it's also true that the business owner is opening themselves up to a lawsuit if something bad happens. Guess you gotta wait to see what happens first.
Cruz got into MSD through a stairway door that should have been locked, but was propped open by staff as they used that area to go out and smoke, a such all of the metal detectors in the world would not have prevented him from getting into the school. And yes when you have 1200 to 2000 students trying to enter a school all at once the entire front of the school would need to be lined with metal detectors to get all of them in before noon. .
it is not 12 months. It is between 90-180 days. EXTREMELY easy. If you ever purchased a class 3 weapon, you would know how easy it is.
no it isn't. If you've ever purchased a class 3 weapon, you would know how easy it is, and that it does not take anywhere near 12 months.
if you'd ever purchased one, you'd know the wait time is not 12 months, lol https://www.silencershop.com/atf-wait-times
which is what? I just showed you that wait times are not 12 months, lol. If you ever purchased a class 3 weapon, you would know this.
You didn’t “ show “ anything. You just gave an opinion. Read your own reference. 12 months. That’s from Bud’s, page 3. Form 4 is necessary to transfer regulated item from one class 3 holder to another, correct ?
I literally just gave you a source with current average wait times, as of March 17 of this year, lol. Form 4 is necessary to transfer regulated item from one class 3 holder to another, correct ?[/QUOTE] yes. The wait time is between 90-180 days for that. Go buy one, and see how easy it is for yourself.
yes. The wait time is between 90-180 days for that. Go buy one, and see how easy it is for yourself.[/QUOTE] That’s not what bud says. So your class three is 3 months and your form 4 is a year using your reference. That’s 15 months. Tic, toc, tic, toc. But it’s real easy.
this is why you shouldn't debate topics you know absolutely nothing about, lol. class 3 is the actual item. Form 4 is the paperwork needed to transfer it. Buying a class 3 weapon, from time of purchase, to obtaining the tax stamp is between 90-180 days. Go and buy one, and see for yourself. I've got 2 of them. First one took 120 days. Second one took 73.
You can get a suppressor for under $150. Add on the tax stamp which is $200. Very affordable. Give it a try.
A friend of mine is a collector of World War II military arms. A few years ago he found a very nice example of a BAR he sought to acquire. He did the paperwork, paid the fees... and waited 18 months for his tax stamp to be approved. Times are definitely getting better, but at the time the ATF had a skeleton crew running the Class III operations, and wait times were appalling; even for more basic items like SBR's and suppressors.
